there's this turf battle between treasury and irs and omb on how to deal with regulations on the tax code. has this rollout gone as smoothly as -- >> let me comment first of all, the calculator is on track. i think it is being released next week. it is being released next week. i think we are going to give the press a demonstration of this. and again i'm a just emphasize, i think the rollout of the tax plan, we had very close coordination between the irs and the treasury and the white house and the omb. i think there have been some articles about a memorandum of understanding that treasury has had for 30 years with omb. but again i assure you that mick mulvaney and i are working very closely together, and to the extent that makes sense to reconsider how things have been done over the last 30 years, we are already doing that. >> and the president said today at cpac the past administrations, when talking about the deficit and debt, have let it go to hell, i believe were his words. the projections are still close to a trillion dollar deficit that will ramp up in future years. the admini

agenda last year as well and i've been to cpac for a number of years now and i will be interviewing omb director mick as a -- mull deputy mulvan. i got up at 4:00 this morning, people were online before then. i think at 3:00 a.m. so that they could get inside, get through security to see president trump and hear what he has to say to america. >> janine, what do you think the biggest message from president trump today coming out of cpac,

we want to get any paperwork from omb until they get a bill o the president's desk.other words, things are basically shut down and workers are supposed to go in tomorrow and get their marching orders on how to shut down unless something arrives at the president's desk, gets through the senate, then gets through the house and the overnight hours and everything is kosher in the morning. what we are going to see in the next couple of hours as a senate vote that requires a 60 yeas to cut off debate. remember that senators wanted to execute this at 1:35 eastern time in the afternoon, pass the bill. here's the problem. you need unanimous consent and assented to do most things. what that means is if you get everybody to agree, you can expedite the process. rand paul, the republican senator from kentucky said no. you had 99 other senators saying yes, let's vote on thursday afternoon and get this under the wire, move it through the senate and the house before midnight. rand paul said no. he wanted to have a longer debate. he wanted to have amendments. he said we will drive up

omb has worked with every cabinet agency.o it has been the president -- i think there were four cabinet meetings in a row where the number one topic was how are you doing on deregulation's? it is a priority and we are happy to help do that. [applause] deneen: so can you give us an idea of one of the most costly regulations you have come across like anything off the chart ridiculous? mr. mulvaney: the two big ones, the waters of the u.s., saying a roadside ditch is a stream, and the one the president talks about on clean power plants. that was an obama administration way to bankrupt the coal industry and the folks who work in that industry. those are the two big things. the stuff we did last year does not get the same amount of attention because it was smaller stuff. every new regulation he wanted to old ones. at the end of the year, the total was 22 to 1, 22 gone for a new one in. deneen: great. [applause] great. i wanted to ask you about that. it has been the media, there has been some discrepancy is it really 22, is that --

senators may work on the omb deputy director nomination. more nominations are expected this week. now live to the floor of the u.s. senate here on c-span2. the presiding officer: the senate will come to order. today's opening prayer will be offered by rabbi seth frisch, from historic congregation kesher israel, rabbi frisch: we look to you today, you who remembers all that we have forgotten, and you who are the eternal source of all blessing. we stand before you on the eve of the biblical festival of purim, a joyous time in which we

eastern with omb director mick mulvaney discussing the second amendment. next will hear from president trump. ♪ [applause] pres. trump: thank you everybody. [applause] thank you very much. thank you matt for that great introduction and thank you for this big crowd. this is incredible. we have come a long way together. back at cpacbe with amazing friends and supporters and proud conservatives. [applause] remember when i: first started running and people said, are you sure he is a conservative? i think we have proved i am a conservative. [applause] than fourp: for more decades this event has served as a form for our nation's top leaders, activists, writers, thinkers. you're after your leaders have discussed what we could do to protect our heritage, protect our culture, and protect our freedom. ideasas been about big and has also been about putting those ideas into action. cpac really has put a lot of ideas into action and will talk about some of them this morning. from the last year with your help, we have put more great conservative ideas into use then perh

reporting that the president has privately floated three potential replacements for kelly, omb director mick mulvaney and businessman tom barrett. the white house denies that kelly has offered his resignation. kevin cork has our report. >> he did a very good job when he was in the white house and we hope he has a wonderful career and hopefully he'll have a great career ahead of him. >> the president's comments about rob porter didn't quell the controversy. if anything, he may have ignited a new one. >> as you probably know, he says he's innocent and i think you have to remember that. he said very strongly yesterday that he's innocent. so you'll have to talk to him about that. >> despite porter's repeated red denials and questions about when the white house learned about the scope of the allegations, saying the retired marine general was quote enabler of domestic violence. white house counsel knew about the allegations involving porter for months. the washington post said mcgann first learned of the allegations in january. in june the fbi warned the white house about them. in september t

so what role has the omb played in reducing the regulations question mark -- regulations? mr. mulvaney: no one outside the beltway has ever heard of us and nobody inside knows what we do, and we like it like that. we do a little bit of everything. because of the budgets, they call me the budget director, and deals fine, but the m with management. we work with every single cabinet agency on every one of their regulations. so the department of congress -- commerce if they want to put out a new regulation, they have to work with us. we're involved with every single piece of regulation, and as a result, the regulation. aboutrdest part deregulating was that the government had forgotten how to do it. it had been such a long time since the government had done it that there were no forms. people who were working at these agencies were not born that the last time there was a major deregulation effort. with everyas worked one of the cabinet agencies, and it has been the president. there were four meetings in a row where the topic was how are you doing on that the regulations, it is a pr

it's been a very busy week at omb. you don't have to spend all of this money.these are spending caps. you don't have to spend all that. we will show how you can run the government withoutspending all of that . that will be our 2019 budget. but if you're going to spend it which is what we think on with will do, here's how you should spend and that will be our 2018 budget.take the money the democrats want to put to these social programs limited to infrastructure, opioid relief, two things that are in line with present priorities so that if it does get spent, and lisa gets spent in the right places. >>chris: in your first budget for 2018, for this year that you introduced last year. yes it's complicated. you call for major spending cuts on the domestic side. let's put them on the screen. 20 percent less for the state department and foreign aid. 31 percent cut for the epa. 80 percent less for the national institutes of health. but under the congressional compromise, all of those agencies get more money. not less money. so

and a vote following to advance the omb deputy director nomination. other judicial nominations later this week. we hope to hear from party leaders shortly before the senate returns and until then the senate debate from earlier uncontrolled. >> mr. president, years ago and author name malcolm gladwell wrote a book called the tipping point. he really spelled out in the course of history when something occurs which changes people's thinking from actions, it is a precipitous moment where when it has been done for so long stops and is reevaluated. in a different course is followed. the clear question we have in america today is whether we have reached a tipping point when it comes to gun violence. it's only been 13 days, 13 days since the tragedy at parkland florida and look what has happened since. of course, outrage, sadness, morning for the families that lost these students teachers and administrators but beyond that these high school students, 17, 18 years old, some even younger have really become a national voice, a powerful voice on the issue of gun

. >> these are the omb >> where are we for '18? >> 4.2%. >> '19 is 4.7?e three biggest numbers >> we have a third of the national debt coming, rolling over, we have to refinance at higher rates doesn't that concern you overall? >> on that point if it were me, i would refinance with 50 to 100 year bonds that's a great policy. mnuchin is trying to get it. i think he is right. >> does that concern you overall? once you were a deficit hawk. >> i am a growth hawk. never been a deficit hawk. i am a reagan type guy gene is on the other side. i respect that, i respect you. we have been having this conversation for 20 years. i just want to say that trump's budget as a policy outline, may not get what he wants, i understand that, but i think it is in the right path i think lowering tax rates on business and becoming competitive is dead right. i think it will boost economic growth his deficit numbers, you may not agree with the omb budget, his deficit numbers are far lower than obama deficit numbers gene, in fairness, you predicted 4% growth in early budgets, never

he's got great political skills but he's very much needed by the president as director of omb. >> he's a big job right now. and barrett is the guy who recommended paul manafort. his judgment is not good. mccarthy plays number two guy in the white house. we need him there. you need to stay with what you have and make sure that general kelly is a little more politically sensitive. david: ed on this friday before i let you go, i want to talk to you about this fisa information. the fisa courts were set up in light of the nixon era right after watergate to prevent spying on american citizens to add extra layer to prevent any kind of spying on american citizens but it looks like it's become a tool, a political tool. >> unfortunately they did that. the fisa judges appointed by the chief justice of the supreme court are important judges and they take the fbi and these people at their word. there's a strict code you have to present to get the wiretapping and obviously it's been violated. if i were sitting on that court today i would be awfully suspect of anything at the justice department. davi

omb director sai about the president's aid. >> the tweet could be applied to a bunch of different people. >> within faces sexual misconduct by dozens ofomen. >> we are obligated to havehearings. >> reporter: the president has denied the allegations. >> those accusers have had their day on your network and elsewhere for a long time. >> the white house attempting pivot away from the latest scandal by focusing on insphracture $1.5 trillion plan. the latest plan out today. serena marshall, abc news washington. >>> a member of the super bowl champion philadelphia eagles will be on national tv celebration his victory. malcom jenkins will talk about the team's win and share what took place behind the scenes in e parade.stay tuned with kelly and ryan on 6abc. >>> matthew mcconaughey is a big fan of nick foles. the hollywood star took out a full page ad from the newspaper in austin, texas it reads from local to another, nick foles just keep living, matthew mcconaughey, all right, all right. >> russian investigators are trying to figure out what caused a deadly jetliner crash.rch for a woman who c

so what role has the omb played in reducing regulations? dir.ulvaney: for those of you that don't know what we do, no one knows what we do. there is a saying that no one outside the beltway has never heard of us and anyone inside does not know what we do. we like it like that because we do a bit of everything. everyone knows us because of the budget. they call me the budget director. the m is management. we work with every single cabinet agency on every major regulation. the department of commerce, if they want a new regulation, they have to work through us to see the light of day. we are intimately involved with every single piece of regulation and as a result deregulation. when we first got here, the hardest part about deregulating was that the government had forgotten how to do it. it had been such a long time since any administration had told the government to deregulate that there were no forms. there was no check the box for deregulation. many of the people who were working at these agencies were not born the last time there was a major de

. >> david, as a former omb director and so am i. so you do look at how much we've added to the national credit card here. what concerns me is you've got a combination obviously the tax cut added about $1.5 trillion to our debt. the estimate here, this could add as much as $1.5 trillion if the spending caps continue at the level that was agreed to into the future. so that's about $3 trillion. >> neil: nobody mentions the other spending that was part of this package that goes up a separate $10 trillion. everybody talks about the tax cuts. >> yeah, no, there's an awful lot of additional spending that was added here. it's the easy way to do it. you know, having been in the congress, the easiest thing to do in the world is to add spending and not have to pay for it. at some point the fact is that republicans and democrats are going to have to come together on some kind of comprehensive budget agreement that tries to reduce this deficit over the next five to ten years. if that doesn't happen, then it's going to have serious consequences i

have been some rticles about a memorandum of understanding, that treasury has had for 30 years with omb, but i assure you, that mulvaney and i are working very to the together and extent that makes sense to reconsider how things have been done over the last 30 years that.already doing >> the president said today, hat past administrations, talking about the deficit, the debt, have let it go to hell. projections are still close to trillion dollar eficits that will be racked up in the future years. -- >> let me comment on that because i think that's an issue.ant again, as we've said, the debt has gone from 10 trillion to $20 trillion over the last eight years. the president is concerned about that. was component of that spent in the middle east on wars as the president has talked about. very esident has been clear that getting more money for the military was a major of his. and that's something that was achieved. that, the of democrats required us to raise nonmilitary money. importance of he what the president wanted to do with the military, that was critical that we get it done and lookin

or the omb? .licy, regulation here in washington essentially you've got office of management and policy and budget controls regulation implementation process in d.c. then you got treasury department irs overseeing implementation of this new tax code, so it is -- it is the folks at treasury irs saying look get this done quickly we are to ones to drive this but then you've got omb saying hey this is our lane here we are the ones that oversee regulation you kind of got a few different entities here, i guess you could say battling it out as washington tries to maneuver the complex process of the new tax code, and the regulations with it. speaking of the tax code there is a new poll out, that shows basically what the administration thought all along as starts to get rolled out would it become more popular with americans this new poll from surveymonkey shows half country is now in favor of this tax plan 39 against it when you dig into the numbers,there are low democratic support but 11% jump among democr

half byest was cut in omb to deploy 300 machines. that was cut in half. $150 million to do this. that is a lot of money, but in washington, we talk about billions of dollars. 150 million about -- $150 million to protect americans at the last 20 departure airports in my judgment is worth every penny. i am not going to have that all my head and we made our quest to the department. i talked to the appropriators to get this funded and fully .rotect americans in aviation this is also been bogged down in bureaucratic delays. each day, we fail to effectively mitigate evolving threats to aviation security. additionally, we have seen insider threats to aviation security grow ever more secure -- concerning in the wake of the metro jet bombing in egypt. despite dhs efforts to enhance security measures for flights to the united states, they continue to be vulnerable. in recognition of this glaring vulnerability, when active legislation to enhance tsa security procedures -- we enacted legislation to enhance tsa security procedures, particularly screening employees at secure access points. gap

. >> it is irrelevant as the omb has said because it does not incorporate the agreement signed into lawst week, so they are going to have to come up with brand-new numbers during the next 4-5 weeks. very little of this will see the light of day, except for the defense increases. nejra: after campaigning on a promise to rebuild america, president trump released his infrastructure plan, pledging at least $1.5 trillion in new investment. the president called the proposal bipartisan and common sense, but it is still looking like a tough sell. >> it is tough to say how they get infrastructure done ahead of midterm elections. this has even alluded democrats and republicans. it is something they say they want, but they have yet to reach their goals on this. >> it is looking to make a permanent fix to what it sees as a broken system for funding and building infrastructure in the united states. they think there has been an overreliance on federal funding and that states and localities need to find more of their own revenue sources. the permitting process takes way too long and prevents projects

the senate budget committee will convene tomorrow to discuss the present budget omb director mick mulvaney. treasury secretary will testify about the budget for the senate finance committee. watch that live wednesday at 10:30 on c-span3. >> tonight on the cricketers the consumer electronic show technology industries and discuss their lay just defense and intelligence. >> you can do your netflix and it does machine learning and helps beer out what movies you want to watch and what movies you like to listen to you can be in your internet system and filtering out spam and that automated system is marking it whether it's spam but a computer algorithm that uses technology within ai to do that. on the other end you can have artificial intelligence powering self driving cars. it uses vision and machine learning to help the car navigate busy streets watch "the communicators" tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span2. tuesday morning we are live in little rock, arkansas for the next stop on the c-span bust the capital's poor. arkansas governor asa hutchinson will be our guest on the boston washington jour

run all the big-budget institutions in washington so the federal reserve, the treasury department, omb, the budget committees comes of a. to try to have a realistic understanding of the budget improvements are going to be needed to improve the fiscal situation in the country and to trick yo to have in a bipartisan way it kind of understanding of how hard it is to make these traces but there are so many reasons they are necessary to keep moving the ball forward. with that said i will say it is a rough time for the budget policy this country. nobody should be under the impression that the fiscal health of the country is good. it is not. our debt relative to the economy is twice what it's been on average. we are on track to bother us to be $10 trillion over the next ten years but in light of the legislation it is trillions and trillions more and i would argue that we are at the point because the economy is strong right now but that the point we are not making hard choices and we are not paying for things were acknowledging the budgetary trade-offs and the result is the deficit is going to

we had two pilot programs in the united states and at their request, it was cut in half by omb to deploy 300 machines. that is what they asked for, and it was cut in half. $150 million to do this. because that is a lot of money. but in washington, we talk about billions of $150 million to dollars. protect americans on inbound flights in some of the most dangerous spots, in my judgment, it is worth every penny. and, i am not going to have that on my head. i talked to the appropriators to sufficient funding to fully protect americans in aviation. this has alsoaviation. this has also been bogged down in bureaucratic delays. each day, we fail to effectively mitigate evolving threats to aviation security, we risk letting terrorists get ahead in their efforts to harm the traveling public. additionally, we have seen insider threats to aviation security grow ever more concerning in the wake of the metro jet bombing in egypt. dhs's efforts to enhance security measures for flights to the united states, they continue to be vulnerable. in recognition of this glaring vulnerability, we enacted legisla

that the department didn't have ample opportunity to prepare for a hearing because of the approval of omb that it was just a choice of the chairman then you and i have a difference of opinion on whether or not this rises to the level of the hearing. i've got a number of things i'd like to take time to talk about and i won't have time to talk about all of them and obviously i continue to be concerned about acquisition and how well the department handles acquisition. we see press about the most egregious examples and obviously the recent one we have a contractor who clearly has a very troubled history with federal government yet we entered into a contract with him to deliver meals and clearly they did not deliver on the contract and did not perform under that contract. i think we've got to drill down about debarment and suspension and why that is such a hard thing to do in the federal government. i can assure you my colleague the chairman that if it was his company and if it was a private business and you had someone that was a supplier and they screwed up time after time and you know what

reconsider omb deputy director nominee russell vote. on c-span3, a hearing on what is ahead for the fbi headquarters and the plants build a new building on the current site. coming up in about an hour, family research council president tony perkins on the legacy of reverend billy graham. at 9:15 a.m., sis being -- c-span 50 capitals tour is in new mexico. first, we talked to

when the omb director mick mulvaney was up here come he did hear from some of his own party about fiscal discipline. >> it doesn't feel that way to me that we are heading in a hopeful direction to solving our nation episodes. >> is a lot more fun to spend money than it is to reduce. it's a lot harder to reduce than it is to spend it incumbent on all of us to make difficult decisions, to decide together that the legislature administration, are these deficits we are willing to tolerate? reporter: mick mulvaney referring to cuts of programs that overtime with the twin reduction in the deficit although we should point out would not lead to a balanced budget in 10 years. the very cuts get under the skin of democrats in the hearing. >> a four-point $3 billion cut while giving 6 billion on mobile. which is more important to you? >> one of the things they mentioned during my opening. >> you can answer one way or the other. the public would like to know. >> i don't like to answer loaded questions. >> he does it all over again today as he appears before the house committee. cheryl, lauren, back to

articles about a memorandum of understanding that treasury has had 430 years with -- for 30 years with ombth each other and we are doing work there. >> the presidents of past administrations when talking about the debt have let it go to hell. yet projections are still close to $1 trillion deficits in the future years. is the administration -- comment,chin: let me the debt has gone from $10 trillion to $20 trillion over the last eight years and the president is concerned. a big component was spent in the middle east as war -- on wars. the president has been clear that getting more money for the military was a major priority of his. that is something that was achieved. as part of that, the democrats required us to raise nonmilitary money. given the importance of what the president wanted to do with the toitary, that was critical get it done and we will look at the issue of budget deficits knowing forward. -- going forward. >> where is the ministries and on the idea of a $.25 rise in gas tax? the president has suggested -- steve mnuchin: something being considered but no decision. during my t

donald trump has his own omb director serving at the same time as the director of the consumer protection board, paralyzing that body. so, i think -- yeah. >> neil gorsuch. >> guest: they got that -- probably more important to rank-and-file than the donor elite. they're getting stuff. they're getting real substantial, tangible benefit. one of the things that -- as this corporate income tax. let's not minimize how big a deal that is. one of the arguments, long become argued by economists who pays the corporate income tax, paid by workers, by consumers or paid by shareholders? so we now have an answer to that question. when the stock market goes up, 30%, on the expectation of a corporate income tax cut the stock market is saying we think the shareholders are getting most of this this because it if went to workers and customers the stock market should not have reacted to it at all. >> you write that trump has ripped out the conscience of half of the political spectrum and left a moral void where american conservative once was. did trump do that or when did that excavation of the moral consci

omb put out a statement that said that from the increased efforts from all forms of these tax credits and the you're are oversight enforcement could raise $43.8 billion over the next decades which is a lot of money to use to help people that really deserve it and need it rather than those that are trying to go beyond the system. so, can you tell me, besides these two i have already mentioned, any others that you might be looking at where we would use social security numbers as the identifying number we all use for agency, that we might be looking at to save these dollars and these programs and prevent the fraud and abuse? >> well, i can tell you actually it's an issue that i started to spend a lot of time on because we administer a lot of tax credits through the irs, based upon social security numbers, and i am in the process of having meetings with the social security department and understanding how we're going to move forward with technology, smart social security cards, how we can protect that information. i think as you know, on most credit cards today you have a unique identifie

. >> i hate to say it but it is as the omb, the office of management and budget says, because it does incorporate the agreement the president signed into law just last week, so they will have to come up with brand-new numbers during the next four to weeks. five very little of this will see the light of day, except for the defense increases. nejra: after campaigning on a promise to rebuild america, president trump released his long-awaited infrastructure plan earlier today, pledging at least $1.5 trillion in new investment. the president called the proposal bipartisan and common sense, but upgrading public works is still looking like a tough sell to a skeptical congress. >> it is tough to say how they get infrastructure done ahead of midterm elections. this is a policy proposal that has eluded both democrats and republicans in the past. it is something they say they want, but they have yet to reach their goals on this. >> it is looking to make a permanent fix to what it sees as a broken system for funding and building infrastructure in the united states. on one hand, they think there h

fourth, to improve the workforce training, improving -- excuse me in previewing the new 2019 budget ombector mulvaney says he'll focus on things like the new infrastructure plan. >> take the money that the democrats want to put in social programs, move to opioid relief, things that are if line with the president's priorities because if it does get spent, it gets to the right places. >> addresses objectives of both republicans an democrats but initial reaction from democrat members like pete suggests otherwise. >> it would cut existing transportation programs to pay for wall street and foreign investors to toll our roads and it would gut bedrock environmental environmental protections in speeding up projects. this is not a real infrastructure plan, it's simply another scam. >> the white house calls for 200 billion in new federal funding, 100 of which we spent on incentives, interesting how it's received on capitol hill today. rob: certainly will, griff, happy monday to you. fox news alert, hundreds of rescuers are coarving -- combing through the wreckage of commercial air crash that kill