he will be at omb to execute the plan. >> a bunch of these people work for him.nald trump tapped former nfl player scott turner to lead the department of housing and urban development. turner is a leader at the america-first policy institute, a group that like project 2025 has been planning for months to overhaul the federal government in a second trump term. the president-elect named far right conspiracy theorist sebastian gorka to a key national security role and a foxconn tributor fox contributor pick. rounding out the list, scott bessent, a billionaire executive and top campaign fundraiser to be his treasury secretary. joining us is msnbc political contributor and "politico" white house correspondent, eugene daniels. >> eugene, welcome back to the table. i have something i want to play for you because i think in this sound is the essential ingredient for everything we're seeing play out with trump and the people he selected. let's listen to mr. vought on ukraine funding. >> you think about ukraine and the president in that first term wanted to cut off funding

i'm a former omb employee. a lot of people don't know what exactly omb is and does but one of the most powerful agencies in the federal government. sits in the white house, makes the president's budget. issues presidential memoranda and essentially executes the president's plans through the business of what the government does. and this gentleman was not only an author of project 2025 he was the architect by hind it and it's not just the databases that were just mentioned but a vast project that lved hundreds of conservatives and trump loyalists that put the plan together and they plan to go in, dismantle and remake the government. i want you to know about mr. vought, he was at the sent of the controversy that led to donald trump's first impeachment. after richard nixon left office they passed the budget control act to prohibit impoundment of appropriations and mr. vought helped execute impounding funds used to blackmail ukraine to dig up dirt on joe biden. dangerous individual and plans to execute project 2025

brian: yes. >> russ was his omb director in his e first term. to mb. and as the president says reining in the deep state, there is nobody better than russ vought to work hand in glove with scott bessent and howard lutnick on the trade agenda but also reining in the size of government. brian: yeah. russ vought at omb is kind of the doge eye guy on -- doge guy on the inside, if you will. you mentioned tariffs. you know, the left is going after president trump saying it's going to be the a national sales tax, but scott bessent has talked about it as well, and he says it's a negotiating tool. how to do you expect that whole thing to play out in. >> yeah. well, tariffs have three parts to it, all beneficial to the u.s. economy. number one, they can be a substantial revenue stream into treasury. number two, it's the all about protecting the american worker. and, three, as leverage which president trump demonstrated in his first term. he used tariffs to great effect to to bring the chinese communist party expect chinese leadership ott table -- and the

that's russ and he's going to be right there at omb to execute that plan. this is really incredible stuff. i know these people. >> jesse: that's russ. >> this is what america voted for. >> jesse: take us inside this transition. you were appointed pretty early in the process. as you see people come on board, are you calling, are you already talking strategy? what's the conversation like inside? >> well, president trump has assembled in addition to what you're seeing publicly announced he's assembled a world class policy team behind the scenes that's working everyday to put together the day one executive actions and executive orders that are going to implement every single one of his campaign promises. whether you're talking about public health, whether you're talking about the national invasion and emergency in our southern border, whether you're talking about the diversity, equity and inclusion policies, whether you're talking about getting men out of women's sports, out of women's bathrooms, out of women's locker rooms, right, all the things that president

vought was omb director in trump's first term. president says he's an aggressive cost cutter who knows how to dismantle the deep state. we'll keep you updated as the nominations keep rolling in. some democrats are still having a little trouble adjusting to trump's america. liberal women are shaving their heads and going on sex strikes. ellen degeneres dyed her hair and fled to england, and carmel is throwing back strawberry daiquiris in a hawaiian bunker while the dnc lays off staff. this week, the dnc staff union put out a pretty scathing note, saying that so many dnc staffers have gotten laid off, no severance. they were shocked. i'm just curious from an optics perspective. the vice president left town to go to hawaii on vacation. does the president think that's appropriate when so many dnc staffers are literally wondering what they're going to do for work? all right, let's not twist this in so many knots here. but not every democrat is foaming at the mouth. gavin newsom is getting bold. instead of trying to improve california's

first time around where they tried to push some extreme integration measures or, for example, when ombsometimes they wouldn't even allow policies that told hospitals how to wash hospital gowns during the pandemic, during the crisis. it was held up by people working at omb who weren't doctors who shouldn't be involved in these processes. and it is important to really study that 900 page plan. i read it front to back and i know a lot of these things in there when people are, like, it was hyperbole, no, these are the policy agendas and that is what we're up against going forward. >> they believe in a powerful executive, there was talk about what you could do at the fda, with plan b, what you can do with the comstock act to make it so abortion materials, equipment, can't be sent state to state. that got a lot of attention during the campaign. there is so much more in there. you have tom homan who is associated with project 2025 as is john ratcliffe for cia, and brendan carr, his selection for fcc, pete hoekstra, his ambassador to canada and vogt. there is a lot of people here. vaughn hilly

to omb to be my deputy. mm. and then what happens next? you end up working for shultz. he's he's for weinberger. shultz gets pulled into treasury, right? and then he ends up working for wal-mart. yeah. who? he had met at ohio, actually, because, you know, weinberger was with reagan. he got into a little spat with then-governor reagan right at. but he developed gloss over them. yeah. where you get that? yeah. i mean, the context here governor reagan is fighting a particular program when he wants kill a program california, which your father said, no, i don't want to kill this program. yeah yeah. so my father finds a diplomat way to make both things happen, which i actually think is another a line that that flows throughout this book. so there's a federal program that governor reagan wants to kill. and my dad working in ohio doesn't to kill it. so he says well, why don't we appoint a three judge panel in california to, republicans and a democrat to see this program is actually as bad. you say it was reagan was going after this program because it's good sample. governor rea

anyone who is not in government may not know how powerful omb is. setting up russ vought to be trump's right-hand man. his job is to implement policy and to use the purse strings to control people who don't want to fall in line. in that sense, he has the ability to be an enforcer. this is someone who is deep in the policy aspects of project 2025 which was written by sort of this loosely arranged cloak yum of 100 different conservative groups to set force a new vision guided by christian principles. vought is a krigschristian nationalist. there is an ppetite to change t direction because of the powerful position he will hold if he is confirmed. >> michael, polls from earlier this year, show project 2025 was deeply unpopular. anybody who read it, hated it. of course, it's a 900-page document, so not a lot of people read it. donald trump makes it disappear. he did what trump does. he gas lit us and said he didn't have anything to do with it. oh, my god. he told us he is going to do it. he's going to do it now or is that baked into the cake? people assu

he if you read what he talks about omb and he it was very technical, but omb will be involved in every decision and that will come right from trump. and this i mean i think this goes with the cabinet their own kind of franchise. they're not they all come they flow from trump. and he'll use them to execute his agenda. and all these agencies. and there's not going to be any stand up agencies that don't come under his thumb. so i think it's all plays in one piece. >> and this is probably exhibit a of how the second time around, both the president and people work for him, know exactly what they want to accomplish and what they're doing. there is no learning curve here. russell vought obviously came from the hill, so it's kind of ironic that many people on the hill will not take kindly republicans and democrats to you know, the idea of so much power in the executive branch. but over the last couple of decades, the presidency and the executive branch has amassed considerable power, much, much much more than it was in the reagan era or the first bush era or the second one. i mean, it has grow

mindful you have to go through omb it will take longer i think that get the musk and vivek thing donesaying? >> the tax cuts come first, right away, you want to reup the tax cutting and jobs act. you want to godo with this government thing, we held job of chief economist at omb at one stage in our lives, none of this stuff will work unless they put correct incentives into it. you have to make it worth while for government bureaucrats s to do things efficiently and get rid of waste, once you have it properly you could let it go it will take care of itself, like tax cuts, if you do tax cuts private sector will take care of the job, same for spending reductions, you put it for efficiency and productivity you will get bureaucracy to do the job. if you don't make it a structure, there is no way people even elon musk or vivek ramaswamy could control and handle all of those data from the trillions of things, you need too set a structure in place, that will take care of itself, and dynamically improve yourself, if they do, that they will win big for a long time, i am happy about what they are

when he ran omb during trump's first term, vought led the push to replace career civil servants with trump's appointees. according to reporting from mother jones, quote, vought tried to reclassify almost 90% of the agency's workforce as at-will employees. now trump is giving vought another chance to strip protections from the most seasoned, dedicated government workers, or in the words of trump advisor stephen miller, take down the deep state. >> russ vought has been the guy for the last four years who's been developing the plan to take down the deep state. that's russ. and he's going to be right there at omb to execute that plan. >> speaking of the so-called deep state, trump's new choice to lead the department of justice, former florida attorney general pam bondi, has vowed to go after federal prosecutor who is crossed trump. in fact, she says it's time to, quote, clean house at doj. >> the department of justice, the prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones. the investigators will be investigated. because the deep state last term for president trump they were hiding in the shad

trump recently tapped russ vogt as omb director.like vogt will now be working closely with musk and ramaswamy. and vogt has been very vocal about thinking that president-elect trump should have more sweeping executive powers that don't always require congressional approval to do that. cheryl: he may be dealing with the same reel la regulation in e office, vivek is, that he wants to get rid of. it might be a tough road black roadblockfor them. i don't know. >> i can't get past the stowaway story. everyone is in the tsa line. and you say someone got on a plane and flew to paris. kristi noem, who will be the new homeland security chief, she has her work cut out for her with tsa and the airline security. cheryl: i felt the same way. you said russian passport. okay. >> we've got open borders at the southern border. i guess they don't bother to check you on the plane anymore. deregulation is very important because we're counting on deregulation to serve as a sort of effective tax cut to help spur economic activity at a lower rate of infla

installed at omb. vought was there in the first term but it is obvious from the writings in project 2025 that russ vote oversaw that he had very clear, very extreme ideas about what to do next. what is your treks this one? >> with that one, alex, those that are frequent watchers of alex wagner show. two nights ago you and i were talking about the cuts to medicaid and food stamps. that was in the first trump administration. it happened. who executed that? we saw all of the great protests, who was the architect. russell vought. he is back, he will be here for the same thing. if you look at the last budget trump produced and sent out in 2020. massive cuts, over $1.5 trillion to medicaid. it had massive cuts. even cut social security, food stamps of course. and, so you can assume that looking both at project 2025 which trump said no, no, no, it will have nothing to do with me, of course it is. he named vought, miller, homan. authors of 2025 to his administration. you can assume he will go after the things

he will be head of omb.ike, a thought experiment, here how you could fairly get rid of people, that was, like, quickly. but the idea that he will cut as many people as he is trying to say and they will go clearly after the ones they consider problems like the last segment, people at the doj willing to say trump did something wrong. >> is there something that can be done to halt this? obviously, government runs with the power of the purse being with congress. ultimately, if donald trump wants to cut budgets, you can call mike johnson and be like, hey, let's try to cut some of these budgets and, you know, mike johnson's going to have a hard time. this going to get thrown into his lap and as we've seen in the past, it just causes problems for him. >> so my two hottest takes are that it's going to be -- there are -- trump -- these are not organized people. and while vivek and elon may have similar wants, they don't necessarily have -- they are not from the same worlds. they are not, you know, the heritage founda

you can't wipe your nose without getting permission from omb office to manage the management budget. you have congress and appropriators. you have that write the checks. you have your authorizers, the people who give you your power and can take your power away. so all of this you're you may think you have a lot of power when you're me, but you are actually operating in a very process based, often consensus based matrixed system and organization where you have to bring people along. if you wish to be able to exercise your power this way or that in terms of the concrete things, you know, you certainly have the bully pulpit as secretary of health. you you certainly can drive a debate. you can what you what you prioritize has a big difference. what you spend your time on drives the this massive bureaucracy. so if you say, as i did that preserving the free market health care system in the united states by transitioning from paying for sickness to paying for value is what matters most. then the whole system is aligned around changing medicare, medicaid and obamacare to how do we pay for va

you, ameshia, to trump, who picked the co-author of project 2025 to lead the budget office known as ombis team tried to distance himself from project 2025 during the campaign. now they are appointing several contributors to the administration. he was also briefly director under trump in 2020 but none of this is surprising. does it indicate to you how much more methodical they plan to be this time around in executing their promises? >> absolutely. donald trump is a lot smarter in 2024 than he was in 2016. i think, you know, lying in south with a heritage foundation, which is a long sought after conservative think tank that a lot of the legislative plans across the country are ready, be mindful, project 2025, although it has a federal bit, it has been tested in conservative states. with that being said, donald trump recognizes he needed more help to get across the type of agenda and plan setting that would create seismic shifts, the kind of help he didn't have in 2016 and the kind of individuals to understand policy and how to get things across the aisle. that is who he is appointing. whe

i'm going to not get myself in trouble by turning into the omb director up here. i will just say that the administration very much season the necessity and the logic of seeking additional resources for 2025 since we are doing what congress asked us to do, which is dispersing the funds they gave us a 2024. and without i will that i will turn it over. [shouting] >> thank you, jake. >> i just have one more thing and then i will go into your questions. today the president and the first lady welcomed nearly 200 education and workforce leaders to the white house for the biden-harris administration classroom career summit. the administration is investing in america gender is creating millions of good-paying jobs,, many of which do not require a four-year college degree and its investments will continue to drive job creation for years to come. the summit highlighted the record progress to expand career pathways to these good-paying jobs and infrastructure come clean energy, advanced manufacturing and so much more. with that, josh, this could is you as always. >> good to s

on that, he's got to move quickly with the office of information and regulatory affairs which is an omb yes up with the right people in there and resend president biden's executive order that basically ended cost-benefit analysis which i thought was absolutely amazing when he did it, those are important areas to go, the appointment of robert kennedy from whom i have a lot of respect, i think i'm not sure will confront all the problems that we have the healthcare industry and the natural temptation will be little be to read regulate, to be very couple kitted agenda. maria: what about treasury secretary there seems to be a horse race, howard bought nick wants perhaps the job reportedly and you also have scott bessent and john paulson took his name out. what are you expecting for treasury secretary in terms of the roles that are most important here, what should treasury secretary into you think it is? >> i have no idea. >> i have no idea. scott has been a friend for a long time, he is the man i'm rooting for but i'm sure the qualified people and the president will make the right choice. ma

. >>> plus a omb cyclone hitting the west with torrential rain and powerful winds next. >>> music moguln combs appeared in a courtroom here in manhattan today as he fights to be released from jail while awaiting trial on sex trafficking and other charges. chloe melas joins us now. his lawyers are making a claim a judge is taking seriously. >> reporter: lester, combs' legal team making an eyebrow raising claim that prosecutors wrongly took possession of 19 pages of notes from his jail cell next week and that these should be covered by attorney-client privilege. his attorney saying this is a complete institutional failure and dangerous, but prosecutors say these documents were swept up as part of a pre-planned sweep of the jail and that the notes are not confidential at all. they're mostly inspirational quotes and to-do list, and they do talk about paying off a witness and finding dirt on two alleged victims according to prosecutors. for now the judge is telling prosecutors not to use these do you mean as part of their case and we did get a preview today into this battle as to whether or

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you know, you will notice who is heading the omb, the office of management and budget, ross vought. he is one of the authors of project 2025. likely he will sail through senate confirmation because he has been in the department before and he, compared to a lot of the other cabinet members, he has a more gentile profile. he has talked about taking away the power of the purse to the congress and giving the president that power. these people like ross, you know, he is pretty smart. he has been writing about it for a long time. i read a quote of his today about how the only way to honor the constitution is to sort of work around it. you know, this is a real real ideological thing that is talked about. if it works it will strip a lot of power from congress and it will reshape the way the federal government spends money. >> yeah. they talk about how donald trump's team is ready to take on sanctuary cities like chicago by stripping funding from them. what do folks need to know? >> i think that, you know, it is hard to predict the future. but i think that this is shaping up to be one of the

he had in trump's first term especially since he wrote the chapter in project 2025 that lays out how omb could help consolidate trump's executive power. >> right. i want to remind folks, he was one of those folks that even a few months ago trump said through his team that they would not have any folks who had drafted project 2025 in their government. they said that that was too much of a third rail. now we see a half of duz ozen fs instrumental in writing project 2025 being tapped. so, yes. this is somebody who would like to see tens of thousands of our civil sevens. non-partisan civil servants lose their job replacing them with trump loyalists. we see that in the cabinet. we see that in picks for other agency heads, and we see that in their push for replacing civil servants with trump lackees and folks who will do the bidding of the president and not follow the constitution or have the american people in mind. it's chilling, and this is something that we on the budget committee are absolutely going to stay very focused on in this upcoming administration, less than minute left. you are o

the omb director is going to be someone who is subservient and not as big as elon musk.i think it remains to be seen how long the focus of vivek ramaswamy and elon musk remain on this, like they often move different things. the bigger question for elon musk is -- he makes a ton of money, so there is no one to monitor all of that. >> yeah, he is a big part of his giant bank account, which is because he has government contracts. it's a huge thing we cannot lose sight of. i want to put on the screen something he posted . elon musk posted and you can pull it up. department of government efficiency march will be fire, fire, fire. that sounds serious. >> great. exciting. maybe the government will make that $1 trillion back in march. >> geez. just in tim time for christmas. >> to your point, as far as following the norms , laws and tradition, there is also no incentive for the president to do that either. court cases and getting caught up takes a long time and there is not a supreme court case that says that the president is immune from whatever his presidential actions are, so

administration we learned about treasury secretary nominee scott bessent and now the labor position filled ombs filled are a text and remove them from the federal bureaucracy. that's scaring a lot of bureaucrats in washington tonight. your reaction to all of this news but especially but vought, given his plans for the federal employment, which is a lot of people could have to be looking for real be not only a patriot but very serious about cleaning up d.c., part of the problem we are having is again deep state bureaucrats that think that they can outlast creations and the will of the american people and so you have to get new blood into washington, d.c. from the secretary positions to the federal -- to the federal jobs. i mean, we just need a flush all h. i'm very happy that president trump appointed him, frankly i'm pretty excited to have backup in washington. >> you know, charlie gasparino, i think it was charlie who made the point that all of these picks are -- seem to be ideologically simpatico. they are all supporting the trump agenda. anything can happen, but that's what it seems to be.

stephen miller praised vought as a transformative pimm for omb director and the guy for the last fourrs who's been developing the plan to take down the deep state. miller, by the way, another supporter of project 2025 who is set to join the incoming administration. this time as deputy chief of staff for policy and as trump's homeland security adviser. a gruel miller founded served on project 2025's advisory board before jumping ship this summer when the public began closely scrutinizing project 2025. besides vought and miller, a handful of other key project 2025 figures chosen by trump to join his administration. there's brendan carr, trump's pick to be chairman of the fcc. wrote the chabter in project 2025 about the fcc. one of the first people trump appointed to his new administration also a project 2025 contribute perp tom homan serving so-called border czar expected to lead the mass deportation effort. also acting director of i.c.e. helping carry out the family separation policy during the previous trump administration. john ratcliffe and pete hoekstra also listed tapped as cia di

. >> mike: power panel now jessica anderson, election fund present and former associate director of ombnd morgan harper, former ohio democratic senate. welcome both of you. >> thank you for having us. >> good to be here. spin when we heard a lot of excuses and the blame game in washington. james carville behind president clinton it does not buy it either. limit to let's hear from him. i can't stand the w word and i call it -- you can imagine, but sickens me to use it because the word is so noble and so glorious ain its origin. i so different people -- did it hurt us? of course it hurt us. in order to skate any responsibility, they said, that steph was never used in 2024. well [bleep] >> mike: chess a coke, is the reality of the campaign went to? >> data harris campaign did go to welk and i think what we are seeing today with these autopsies is they are not really getting to the heart of the problem at the harris campaign and relate to code things, mike, at play. the complete mismanagement of the campaign and $10 million on celebrity endorsements as opposed to meeting with the american p

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but just to go back to what brendan said the problem for russ vought, even when he was omb chief he wasvought came in 2018-19 with the extreme aggressive agenda of cutting government spending. every time he came to trump, trump said yeah and then i have to deal with the republican senator. >> no, i love spending money. >> yeah. to me he is a tragic figure. he has been so loyal to trump and deeply willing to defend the president-elect but at the end of the day does trump agree with what vought wants to do. >> he is getting a job in the administration. he's okay. these gentlemen are leaving. when we return you must stay awake for this. a powerful symbol of hope and resilience is headed to the white house for the holidays. you do not want to miss this next story. you do not want to miss this next story for sure. seriously? one up the power of liquid, one up the toughest stains. any further questions? uh uh! one up the power of liquid with tide pods ultra oxi. (marci) what is going on? (luke) people love how the new homes-dot-com helps them get quick answers about any property by connecting

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coming back as the omb director. bring a sharp pencncil this idea of dei initiatives going the way of the dodo. he said "game on. the man who will lay waste to welcome inside the federal government." how do you think that his tenure will unfold? >> he is a very serious person in washington, d.c., circles. for every new regulation put on the books, they remo this speech and priorities are not getting rid of dei is one of those things. rooting out every aspect of something that even resembles the green new deal will do a lot as well. >> john: everything that d.o.g.e. does will flow through him. a lot to watch for. great to see you. you. [gunfire] >> sandra: launching one of its largest attacks on israel. the sides are nearing a cease-fire deal. more on the latest talks. >> john: plus the menendez brothers appearing in open court today. could they walk free despite of being convicted of murdering their parents? stay with us. weathertech presents. ♪ deck the halls with gifts so happy ♪ ♪ fa la la la la, la la la la ♪ ♪ m

. >> i'm going to ask you about the president-elect's pick of going to be the director of omb.some of these folks to cut programs and find the place. how difficult is that job? >> that is one of the most powerful jobs quietly in any administration. an important agency with tremendous -- in the agencies. the only route for d.o.g.e. to effect the government. they make recommendations. >> do you think that there could be enough savings cut out of the government to reduce our deficit to zero? almost $2 trillion. >> i don't see d.o.g.e. being successful in doing that. congress created most of thet back. >> is this something that can be done in 2 years? >> 2 years can be an enormous reach. if they could make progress in . >> this has been a very interesting -- we will see it play out. we've got a huge debt here. it is crashing. i want to say that president biden just announced that he is going to go to the inauguration of former -- president-elect trump's inauguration. that is going to be interesting news. thanks for joining us here on "your world." neil cavuto will be here all week.

but what you want to do with this government thing and we both held a job with chief economist at ombe, none of this stuff will work, larry, unless they put the correct insenteddive into the structure. make it worthwhile for government bureaucrats and getting rid of waste. the structure properly, really just let the thing go and it'll take care of itself. it's like tax cuts and doing the cuts and private sector caring for the job and same thing is true on spending reductions and putting in for efficiency and productivity and all that growth, it'll be beautiful. if you don't make it a structure, there's no way people, even elon musk and vivek can possibly control and handle all those data from the trillions and trillions of things. you need to set a structure in place that will take care of itself with dynamically improving exist doing that, they'll win big for a long, long time. i'm really happy about what they're doing. >> steve moore, the issue of dynamic scoring so so important and trump tax cuts are being about 5 trillion, 6 trillion and that's simply not true. and any decent supp

it sounds like this is an advisory role working with the white house omb to work on the budget. and axios reported this morning that elon musk and his folks are likely to use a.i. to determine some of where we should cut government spending, and they could cut up to $2 trillion. and you know, this is -- this is something that elon musk first threw out there in his x space was trump. and it took trump a little while during hour or so, to understand and agree to. but over the course of the relationship this cycle, it is something that elon musk appears to have convinced trump is necessary. >> yeah. i remember congress not the president create government agencies. it feels like a bit of a blue ribbon panel to satisfy musk and punch lines write themself about government efficiency and two people lead it. let's go through a few other choices trump anod john rat cliff as pick for cia director. he served as director of national intelligence for a while during trump's first administration. the first attest tempt to install him in 2019 failed after he removed himself from consideration f

he's going to be right there at omb to execute that plan. >> and joining me now is republican senator eric schmitt of missouri. welcome to meet the press. >> it's great to be with you. just two and a half weeks after president trump completed the greatest political comeback in american history winning all the battleground states, the popular vote, getting a mandate from the american people to shake things up in washington. look forward to helping him do that with our new majority in the senate and with our friends in the house. >> great to have you here and to have your perspective. let's start right there and this decision by former congressman matt gaetz to withdraw his name from consideration for attorney general. it comes as nbc news has learned that five republican senators were planning to vote against gaetz. do you believe it was a mistake by president-elect trump to pick gaetz in the first place, senator? >> well i think matt gaetz made a decision and i respect that decision. we're moving on now to the nominee he's chosen pam bondi who i know very well. come from state attorne

i am not going to get myself in trouble by turning into the omb director up here. i will just say that the administration very much sees the necessity and the logic of seeking additional resources for 2025. since we are doing what congress asked us to do. >> thank you jake. >> well what an extraordinary hour it has been. first you have the oval office meeting between president biden and former president donald trump. coming together, talking about an orderly transition. the election of new senate leadership talking about the things that divide this incoming administration and incoming leadership from outgoing. and you just saw the national security adviser who will hand off his role to someone he praised. acknowledging that there are big differences on some of the big issues including international issues. things like the middle east and ukraine. president-elect trump did give his first interview since meeting with president biden in the oval office. speaking to the new york post. his view of the transition so far. i want to bring in nbc's vaughn hillyard. donald t

now he appoints the coauthor, one of the lead architects of this nefarious program to head the omb. >> and not just any department. he put them in a place where he can actually dismantle the federal government just as project 2025 predicted they were going to do, to put 20,000 loyalists, which is about five times or four times the number of political appointees we have in the federal government now into places. and what this is going to do, understand, people think, we can survive four years of donald trump, but this is going to create a brain drain of people who are experts. and replace them with trump and maga loyalists who will borough in there long after donald trump is gone, long after potentially there is a vance administration gone. this is replacing experts who are there now, and have been there, who are nonpartisan for the most part with people intended to be there permanently as their replacements who are political appointees, and that's what vought wants, and that's what trump wants. by the way, this is not a secret. they said it outright throughout the last x number of yea

and so obviously, you saw the letter from omb and so certainly they can go into more details and specifics of the breakdown of our ask. but that's how we want to see it moving forward. >> would you say this is the top legislative priority for the president in this lame duck session? >> i think right after the election, i talked about four or five legislative priorities. obviously, this was one of them. getting our judicial, our, we think our very qualified judicial nominees through is a priority. ndaa. is a priority as well. so we have a couple of key priority that is we want to work with. our congressional partners are getting through and this is one of them. again, fema has the money to, to respond to hurricanes helene and milton and that's assuming there's no new, large, obviously hurricanes or natural disaster. but as you know, when it comes to sba, that funding is fully exhausted and you have, you know, that type of funding is critical to businesses, homeowners, and renters and they really rely on that funding, that sba funding, to deal with recovery and rebuilding. there's a real nee

among trump's latest cabinet picks including the former omb chairman, laurie chavez deremer for labor> tunk back to wall street, investors appear to be on board with bessent for treasury with his three-three-three rule. cutting budget deficit to 3% by 2028. targeting 3% gdp growth and producing an additional 3 million barrels of oil a day. a sharp-move in the ten-year yield that you see there on friday. the dollar index, look at the move as well there. you are seeing moves in reaction to bessent being elected as trump's pick for treasury. he has to be confirmed. the dollar is up about 3% month to date. the u.s. stock futures solidly in the green and the russell 2000 up more than 1% in the premarket. joining me is mark anderson, co-head of global asset allocation of ubs global wealth management. good to see you. >> good morning. good to be here. >> you recently published 2025 outlook and in it say the u.s. is attractive. you have a best-case scenario for the u.s. where there's less regulation and lower taxes. with the potential pick of bessent as treasury secretary, does it change the

let's bring in richard fowler, fox news contributor, jessica anderson, former associate director of the omb is a little bit of what tom homan said just a short time ago, listen. >> for any mayor or governor who is going to push back on removing public safety threats from your community, that is the number one responsibility. you ought to be teaming up with us. everybody ought to be on the same page. republican, democrat, everybody ought to be concerned with it. >> john: homan says their interest is removing national security threats. why wouldn't governors and mayors going with that? >> i think you will find some democrat mayors and governors with that. the question for the trump administration, remember, the president-elect campaigned on mass deportations. how do you balance mass deportations with economic greatness in a world in which, for example, america's farm industry, which contribute $1.5 trillion for our economy overall, much of that is done on the backs of undocumented folks in southern and central california, in parts of arizona, in parts of the rust belts, in parts of iowa, so t

. >> i will add layer to that, the project 2025 and the new omb pick is focused on removing civil serviceions and making sure they can fire people who don't decide to leave. the brain drain is quite significant. you have checks that need to go out with respect to vendors that work for the federal government. you have programs that need financing, like title i, head start, all coming out of the federal government. there's so much institutional history that is there, that means the wheels of the bureaucracy grind to a halt, and a lot of the work of the federal government, again, moneys going to the states and local governments in everything from schools to s.n.a.p., it just slows down and puts people at risk. again, if you're a red state voter or poor in the country, you do hang on a lot of what the federal government is providing for you, and it looks like that thought process isn't even inherent in the picks from the incoming administration. >> yes, in deed. it's going to be interesting. basil, always a pleasure to have you at the table. frank, we want you to stick around because we want

you also have russell vought, his one-time omb director from the first administration who he tapped to come back in that capacity here for the second go around. notably, russ vought was one of the leading co-authors of project 2025 and is outlining the ways departments and agencies under the executive branch in 2025 could work more efficiently. also dave weldon, the former republican congressman there who is actually a teammate of robert f. kennedy jr. back in the early 2000s. rfk when he wrote a long magazine piece in 2005 touted the work of dave weldon around the why idea that there is a preservative in many vaccines that is linked to autism, which science does not bear out. that is being factual, but robert f. kennedy jr. is getting an ally to take on the cdc role. you also have the likes of marty makary, who will be leading the fda as the nominee to be the fda director. this is another potential ally it to robert f. kennedy jr. sebastian gorka, who has been very much of a right wing provocateur and right-wing media the last eight years is somebody who has been welcomed back into th

at omb, doug burgum, rubio as secretary of state, those are things conservatives get excited about, but, at the same time randy weingarter in at department of labor, the person she wanted, i think that putin and assad got their pick at dni. the pro-masking of kids got their pick of attorney general. it's ideologically diverse. >> although the gmi pick would go with donald trump's embracing of putin. >> that's part of the narrative rhetorically but the first administration was pretty tough when it came to attacking their mercenaries in syria. i think there were plenty of actions the administration took. of course you had pretty strong traditional conservative foreign policy advocates around him and the vice president and secretary of state driving that policy. >> it may be that the meeting that i covered in helsinki, for instance, where he accepted putin's denials, i think it was driven by his anger over the russian probes, his anger at the intelligence community. >> as i said, i think rhetorically there was a lot more favoritism. i think the policies were different during the first admi