my monitor at omb threat by years in leadership has been one omb. in order to create a culture not a silos that of collaborators so the best expertise can be heard. i've had management positions throughout my career but none so equally challenging and rewarding as the management of this agency. the portfolios of the various components of this agency are so diverse and each one of the critical nature are fundamental to the function of our government. but many women to work with at omb thrive on information gathering and problem solving. they are innovative and smart and, frankly, tenacious. they do their best work when you work together bridging the gaps between their management and budget and regulatory silos. to find a holistic answers to complicated challenges. there are roughly 500 full-time employees at the agency but i've seen them do remarkable things. it's been a privilege to work with them and delete them for the last three and half years and it will consider it a greater privilege to do so as the director. i have spent my entire career cari

vought, i'm looking at your opening statement and your mantra at omb was one omb? >> yes, sir. >> team approach? >> yes, sir. >> okay. wouldn't that be the case if the senior omb official in charge of defense funding for ukraine would know why the ukraine dod funding had been withheld? >> i don't understand your question, sir. >> mr. sandy was the person directly overseeing the issue of ukraine funding; isn't that true?? >> deputy associate director in charge of the funds, yes. >> the career person in charge; correct? >> yes. >> and so my question is given your team approach that you say you have one omb, wouldn't that person have knowledge of why the funds were being withheld from ukraine? >> senator, i'm not getting into who had knowledge of what? it's a deliberative process and one toor be adhered to to ensure the president has the appropriate council and free thinking and -- >> he testified that he only learned about withholding in early september after months of confusion about why the funds were being withheld? >> i'm not going to get into -- >> i'm asking if

or anybody else think it's anyway, that the omb ever gets in the way. >> not at all.which is a facilitator. >> that's right. and feed that to the commission with the idea that in the commission would have its findings and recommendations and the pentagon would get another bite at the apple by taking those recommendations the commission made and giving the white house position. we need to support them in his over going to do to try to pursue or we disagree with that and here's why we disagree and we don't think that recognition should be pursued. that turned out to be productive in some ways. one of the ideas we fed into the grace commission 1982 turned out to be the basis for the statutory system that allows the defense department to close basis. through that process save billions of dollars that are still being saved every although it's long since disappeared from the budget obviously. and, in fact, open of economic we develop an opportunity that almost all of those communities so they're better off today than when you depend only on dod. that's an anomaly but it is

or anybody else think it's anyway, that the omb ever gets in the way. >> not at all.which is a facilitator. >> that's right. and feed that to the commission with the idea that in the commission would have its findings and recommendations and the pentagon would get another bite at the apple by taking those recommendations the commission made and giving the white house position. we need to support them in his over going to do to try to pursue or we disagree with that and here's why we disagree and we don't think that recognition should be pursued. that turned out to be productive in some ways. one of the ideas we fed into the grace commission 1982 turned out to be the basis for the statutory system that allows the defense department to close basis. through that process save billions of dollars that are still being saved every although it's long since disappeared from the budget obviously. and, in fact, open of economic we develop an opportunity that almost all of those communities so they're better off today than when you depend only on dod. that's an anomaly but it is

go across how omb manages the dollars. use tomorrow analytics, look at the budgets that each of the analysts look at for each of the departments and the various agencies, look across around technology, and pass a driver. because the federal cio and the staff and the cio council is going to know exactly where the dollars are, use analytics up across that federal budget for i.t. across the board because that's not being done right now, it really isn't. that would be number one. number two i would tackle data, i mentioned that earlier, there was a 10-year data strategy and i think that's been a little uneven on the implementation. double down on that. for the data piece, across the federal government again, and then third, i would add on. opm just got approval from tmf funding for a multi-year to use ai and some tools to modernize one of their legacy systems. they've done just god's work moving a done of things to the cloud, modernizing and this is one of the last things, i think, in our portfolio is around their main main fr

or anybody else gets in your way -- not that omb ever gets in the way.obert: we are just a facilitator. david: feed that to the commission with the idea the commission would have findings and recommendations. the pentagon we get another bite of the apple by taking the recommendations the commission made in giving the white house a position. we either support that and here's were going to do to pursue it or we disagree and here's why. that turned out to be productive in some ways. one of the ideas we fed into the commission in 1982 turned out to be the basis for the statutory system that allowed the defense department to close basis. through that process they saved billions of dollars. dollars that are still being saved every year although it has long since disappeared from the budget. it opened up economic redevelopment in all of those communities so they are better off today than they were when they were dependent on dod. that's an anomaly but it's an anomaly worth pursuing and copying. robert: so, are there more insights you can share about what we kno

budget and throw some analytics against the omb budget, that does not go across ow omb manages the dollars. use tomorrow analytics, look at the budgets that each of the analysts look at for each of the departments and the various agencies, look across around technology, and pass a driver. because the federal cio and the staff and the cio council is going to know exactly where the dollars are, use analytics up across that federal budget for i.t. across the board because that's not being done right now, it really isn't. that would be number one. number two i would tackle data, i mentioned that earlier, there was a 10-year data strategy and i think that's been a little uneven on the implementation. double down on that. for the data piece, across the federal government again, and then third, i would add on. so i'll give you an example, opm just got approval from tmf funding for a multi-year to use ai and some tools to modernize one of their legacy systems. they've done just god's work moving a done of things to the cloud, modernizing and this is one of the last things, i think, in our portfoli

at omb, i think there will be a significant chilling effect. almost the entire agency will end up being schedule f. >> it is unclear where and how that will be used but i think the conversation about politicizing federal employees and whether it has a chilling effect on how they carry out their work and with contractors having to work with federal employees worried about certain decisions, that could have an adverse impact as well. >> i was going to ask you a specific question about omb and schedule f because during the transition, the budget proposals that come out are typically delayed although i was joking with some a few weeks ago that it does not seem like any administration really cares about the budget is statutorily required to be released on the first monday in february and that target has not met -- has not been met for a long time. congress wants to move fast. when are we going to see major proposals from the trump administration on what they want to have? will they release a document? >> i feel like the landscape is changing every d

we saw trump's pick for omb ruffle vogt. we are hearing reportedly that j.d.his meeting and you are seeing behind me these house freedom caucus members walking in. i have seen the likes of congressman luna, c cammack, beh van duyne, cloud, good, and also roy who has been vo outspoken about this. you are watching video here of johnson walking in. and when he walked in, he actually told reporters that they have a plan this morning. i am being told by a source that they have worked out a temporary solution to keep the government open and then i was told by another lawmaker that this vote could come as early as 10:00 this morning. here is what speaker johnson told us. >> expected to vote this morning. stay tuned. >> reach an agreement. >> we'll see. >> how do you feel -- >> i don't know what we're going to do. >> aishah: okay, thank you, sir. some members don't know what they are walking into. others have told me they have heard there is going to be a 10:00 a.m. vote today going to be a temporary fix. sounds like a clean cr. don't really know exactly how long yet.

which omb in 2010 set the tone that the government understands the challenges ahead.and and can appreciate the opportunity had a bus in building out what that means for the nation is critical. the american people have to know their government understands technology and artificial intelligence is on the roadmap. >> several threads that i want to come back to on that. you were involved in shaping that executive order and can you talk about what type of framework and groundwork has provided? >> that was the effort that was undertaken with the executive ordered how do we build on existing partnerships and how do we bring all of those different pieces to bear to solve what we know to be a great challenge and a major transformation and how do we use this opportunity to begin to build on certain technological challenges that we have both within the government and within. through that process we have learned about how to add value weight its use and how we were able to conduct that initial transformation. >> jennifer issa you nodding a fair amount in those answers. it's a lit

>> we were close with omb on this request mr. ranking member. until fy 25 need is set by the administration $6.6 billion is what we hope to get this month. ultimately the budget process we are talking about now is relative to fy 26 the advance appropriation for fy 27. >> thank you. i was following can you sort of explain again this perverse incentive of the medical centers in the case of the direct spending on the home care customer called the under investing could end up preventing us from saving money? >> i think a lot of the programming involves critical preventative care. getting care to veterans as early as possible in preventing exacerbation. which often causes emergency room visits, hospital solutions. act would take care of veterans on the front end. also home-based primary care, or bus telehealth program are now 24/7 tell emergency care offerings that we are doing across the system. all these are meant to primarily help. they can be cost saving was on the final months of last fiscal year because we are able to offer this additional va o

by the president-elect on issues of the economy, tariffs, thinks he has dealt with before but at, omb, he could have his hands on the switches if there is a government shutdown going on next year. he has not been confirmed yet but he would understand a lot the process behind the scenes, about how the federal government functions, what is necessary, what is not. if he is involved in the conversations, that tells me donald trump world is considering the possibility there will be a shutdown and it could potentially be a lengthy one. >> elon musk's involvement, how do you see elon musk and the doge committee changing how washington functions, or does not function? >> i do see elon musk as trump's right-hand man and an amplifier of a lot of the talking points on the conversations happening at mar- a-lago he is someone who has hardly left the president's side, they see each other in the same vein with very aligned priorities and elon musk has been helpful in communicating that point of view of donald trump. there were a number of tweets, 150 tweets starting early thursday morning throughout

[laughter] larry: i will say, i will say bess sent at treasury, has set at nec, russ vought at omb ispply-siders on tax rates, drill, baby, drill, it's a very good combination. and i think that's a big reason why markets are responding. i'm sorry we've got to jump. steve forbes, brian brenberg, appreciate it. remember, you can catch brian along with jackie deangelis and taylor riggs on "the big money show" weekdays, every day at 1 p.m. eastern right here on fabulous fox business. see, coined that, fabulous fox business. they're even starting to write it into the teleprompter -- [laughter] coming up, senator tommy tuberville who just met with pete hegseth, he joins us next on "kudlow" on fabulous fox business. ♪ car, this isn't the way home. that's right james, it isn't. car, where are we going? we're here. (♪) surprise!!! the future isn't scary. not investing in it is. car, were you in on this? nothing gets by you james. nasdaq-100 innovators. one etf. before investing, carefully read and consider fund investment objectives, risks, charges, expenses and more in prospectus at invesco.c

other women who participated in the january six, 2021 capitol riots in second place is former reagan omb director david stockman. look at the trump economic policies. it's called trump's war on capitalism. third place journalists. bob woodward's latest book called war. and finally, annie jacobsen. her book is called nuclear war a scenario. and those four books for the most watched books at booktv dot org in 2024. just a reminder that all booktv programs are available online to be watched any time, any place. the website booktv dot org. org. well, now joining us on booktv is tony patino. he is the coauthor of this book, creating reading rainbow the untold story of a beloved children's series. he's also the co-creator of reading rainbow. where did the concept come from? mr. patino? well, i was in instructional television and i became a coordinator of instruction. i was the interim for the public television station w.a. in buffalo, new york. and my boss came up to me and wanted to know if i wanted to be involved in something like this. so i said, sure. and as i was thinking about instructio

trump made omb director. here's what trump says. it's totally inappropriate. they come up with an 800 page document and the enemy, which, you know, the other party put a pin in that is allowed to go through and pick out two items, 12 items of, you know, 800. it's a very it's a very foolish thing for them to do. so he's upset about the tactics. he claims he didn't read it all. which tracks? i'm sure he didn't read the whole thing, but he also said that some things he would do, some things he would avoid doing. he even said some of their policies are are conservative and good. and that's something that he really stayed away from saying on the campaign trail, largely because democrats hammered him about his affiliation with project 2025 with some of the individuals behind 2025. because of some of the more controversial policies, namely abortion and others. and so he really tried to distance himself because the campaign felt like it was going to hurt his prospects. campaign is over. he won the frustration in that

and it basically says here that omb has ceased shutdown preparations because there is a high degree of confidence that congress will imminently pass the relevant appropriations, and the president will sign the bill on saturday, because obligations of federal funds are incurred and tracked on a daily basis, agencies will not shut down and may continue their normal operations. so i talked earlier about the office of personnel management not sending a note saying, hey, we're going to shut down. that was never going to happen. this is key right now. this is the office of management and budget telling all the federal agencies that, hey, they got this bill through the house. there's not going to be a problem in the senate. yes, we're a little bit past that deadline, but guys, don't sweat it. and i know there's an awful lot of federal workers. in fact, i live in the washington, dc region. there are a lot of people calling me federal workers, friends, others who i know emailing, texting me today saying, hey, chad, what do you know? and so there's high interest in determining whether or not the

it's not-- omb put out a pretty comprehensive road map that they asked us to follow in terms of implementation and we will not be able to do that and which programs to invest in modernization of. and i would say because of the good work going on in the pac tax, and concerning more veterans the head count level, we have to pay for more p.c.'s and do more customer support and as a result, we are short in the field on the number of people that we need to actually support folks. we are coming from a legacy of very good customer support. our user satisfaction in the field is very, very good. i worry that those numbers will come down as we are spread more thin. >> thank you. and if you had the ability, what would you do to restructure the oit budget? >> well, i think it just needs to be at a higher level. i think there is an opportunity to have money that goes over multiple years. however, i should point out at this point, the common theme in this hearing of incremental instead of-- well, what i call big bang development and a lot of folks do, i fully agree with that. what it means, if not if the bu

. >> lawrence: we know the huddle is going on between speaker, incoming omb and j.d. vance, who is part of this -- >> vance has not been seen. >> ainsley: we're just hearing he's arriving. >> brian: as senator from ohio. >> lawrence: exactly. freedom caucus members right there. we saw this during the speaker race, as soon as they got more right-leaning members onboard, they lost some moderates. are they afraid this may happen? will they lose moderates as they moterate their position on this? >> with a clean cr, i don't think so. i think a clean cr will pass with bipartisan votes. it is what we're living in right now. we don't have a budget, you guys. this is a little laughable. we have not had a budget for a long time. a continuing resolution, does not matter what party, we are living under same circumstances, they are extending sim thing we're living under and people are okay with that. the 1500 page thing had a couple extras involved. i have not heard that disaster relief is in the clean cr. that will be a major sticking point for north carolina, hurricane helene an

including border security, and tax cuts, that is what i. , and and if doge brothers can get together with, omb, let's start cutting spending right now. i don't need -- debt ceilings for that or pay goes, i don't need crushes, just do it just do it. >> shock the nation. >> from your mouth to god's ear. we can do that and plan is to put the border security and some defense components r reconciliation out first and follow is -- >> no, no, no. no. no, no, no. all at once, ma'am, all at once. as sources close to president trump, are telling us. he would like one big beautiful bill. [ laughter ] >> i don't think it gets done s sooner, if you do a great one, if end date is september next year or easy early then do the -- >> 100 days, senator, 100 days or 120 i'll wait 4 months, if you tell me, you will do border first, then tax cuts second. then that til tells me if you are lucky they will be at end of the year you might not, 2017 of the lucky leak a doug flutie hail mary pass, meanwhile it my not start, you cannot wait. you cannot wait. you have to start in right away. >> remember tax cut and jobs a

. >> griff: for more on this is the former associate director of omb under president trump.et with us. thank you for being here. it is pretty clear some sort of shock and awe is coming and americans in the latest gallup poll seem to support what they are hearing from president-elect trump. we can show you the latest gallup poll, 51% of americans now think that this is the kind of transition they want to see. it is going to be everything from mass deportations to regulatory rollbacks, go after the green new deal and who knows what else. maybe even trying to do something with those tariffs on canaled, mexico and china. >> the president is aim for a shock and awe moment on day one. that's what the american people expect. this was a huge landslide of an election and i think you are seeing the president come out really strong. i keep calling him the president because we actually are seeing more of him than we are of our current president, joe biden. he is not even sworn n trump, and he is having foreign leaders at his beck and call come down to mar-a-lago, begin the negotiation p

my old friend, we work together in reagan omb, a long time ago john keoghan from will hoover institute wrote a piece in "wall street journal" showing how proliferation the unbelievable proliferation of federal money given to states and localities, has wrecked the budget for decades, for 30 years, this is something that federal -- this is things that noting should that federal government should be financing and running, he with startling numbers, i don't know if you saw the keoghan piece, you know you are talking about -- why can't we apply push all of the so-called grants and assistant and welfare spending push it down, gets it out of federal books, let the states and localities. and if voters down there want it fine, they may not want it. >> you know, i just left a meeting with my senate republican colleagues, we were talking about this very thing. not the article i need to read it, i made the point that if we followed federalism and focus on enumerated powers of congress we would not have a 36 trillion dollar debt, we would not be doling out the welfare benefits to the states. and th

, at least, i think musk is going to go in there, with his team, with the people he has embedded in ombhelped place, and really try to cut costs and cut regulations radically. and as you say in your piece, this is something that congress may not go along with. i tend to think that they may push the bounds of power. you'll have to explain to me exactly what sequestration is, and rescissions and all, but i think they are going to end up cutting more than the conventional wisdom happens. do you agree? >> i think that might be right, walter. but if you look at plenty of lines in various regulatory agencies and the bigger departments, federal departments, sure, there is fat there. there is unnecessary bureaucracy. and definitely overregulation in some areas and i suspect he will be successful in identifying some of those and getting rid of some of those. but in terms of the larger pledge of cutting a third from a $6.4 trillion federal budget, unless you cut defense spending, which trump promised to do the opposite of, unless you have dramatically falling interest rates, which would reduce th

they are meeting also with president trump's nominee for omb director russell bot.the room as well. we haven't seen j.d. vance enter the room but he is being represented by voss. i'm being told at this hour that there is a deal. a temporary fix to avert a government shutdown and a vote will happen as early as 10:00 a.m. today. it does not appear to include the debt ceiling provision that trump called for because again they weren't able to get the house freedom caucus members to agree to that. as of 1:00 a.m. last night president-elect trump wasn't moving from his position to include the debt ceiling. truth socialed about it overnight saying it has to be part of the deal. he might be walking away from that at least for now to make sure the government continues to function and this would be kicked to the new year. they would have to come back and deal with it at the beginning of the year. now despite trump and musk endorsing the 100 page skinny cr34 house republicans voted against it saying it didn't off set raising the debt ceiling. johnson needed democratic votes la

choosing mark paleto for general counsel at the office of management and budge oath, previously served as ombnsel in the first trump administration. he'll work with doge to cut costs. trump tapping harvey dillon for assistant attorney general of the department of justice's civil rights division, dillon's a managing partner at her law firm. trump touted her accomplishments on truth social. crypto lead others and lawmakers slamming the renomination of s.e.c. commissioner caroline crenshaw who voted in favor of gary gensler agenda in the first term and has been called anti-crypto. gop leaders speaking out about gorgordon eto. they are calling in a push by democrats and an attempt to hinder president trump's agenda. well, get this, new yorkers could receive inflation refund checks of up to $500 from the state next year. part of a plan announced monday by governor kathy hochul. it would be a one time payment of $300 to individuals who earn less than 150,000. $500 for families earning less than 300,000. hochul says, quote, it's simple. the cost of living is too high. new yorkers deserve a break. al

it's one of those things like the the omb director comes in and and the asks for a signature on a padcus talked about how donald trump really work to straited a much smaller, better spending bill. take a listen to what he said earlier in the show to peter. >> the heads of the department of government efficiency, elon musk if and vivek ramaswamy, took to social media and x and started exposing what was in this bill, softening the target and then trump, i mean, he lowered the hammer on this thing. got an awful lot of pork out of the bill. we wound up with a much better bill and, you know, or we dodged or maybe i should say we doged a bullet of massive spending. and i think e bill landed is so much better than where it started that it's very cheerily a victory. we're already seeing -- clearly a victory. we're already seeing nato reacting to trump's eminent return, zelenskyy and putin both say they're more open to some kind of a deal. we've certainly seen massive things happening in the middle east, so i don't know where joe biden is. carley: i love that line. he dodged or we doged a bull

he is also meeting with trump's pick for omb director the nominee russell vogt is in there a representation of the president-elect. i have not yet heard a concrete answer on how long this potential clean cr might be. that might be the hang-up right now that they are discussing inside the speaker's office. what i can tell you at this hour about the clean cr we've been hearing about all morning it will be a continuation of the budget that we are under currently. how to fund the government. there is no debt ceiling attached to this. that was the big ask from donald trump. they would kick that basically to the new year, to the new congress and no disaster relief or farm aid included in this, either. that would affect those very vulnerable and hard-hit states. remember, last night johnson tried to tie the debt limit to the cr, the skinny cr, can 100 page cr that musk and trump endorsed and it didn't go well. it was a poison pill and you had 38 republicans that rejected in. we're watching the democrats also meeting at this hour right now. they are huddling together to try to figure out what they

willing to use every tool in their toolbox, every arm of the federal government from doj to hhs to ombne when states were overreaching like such cases as emergency medical care in idaho, the case that went to the supreme court, or when their own authority like the fda were challenging medication abortion. we are now going to see not just an absence of activity from the federal government, but trained activists embedded in the government who will try to push an agenda using every tool they can find, including invoking things like comstock. >> this has been prime time weekend. i'm nicolle wallace. please tune into deadline white house and all of our prime time shows weekdays on msnbc. ople w. where are you going!? he was actually saying goodbye to his old phone. i'm switching to the amazing new iphone 16 pro at t-mobile! it's the first iphone built for apple intelligence. that's like peanut butter on jelly...on gold. get four iphone 16 pro on us, plus four lines for $25 bucks. and save on every plan versus the other big guys. what a deal. that's a lot if you ask me. ya'll giving away too

. >> the way they announced it was that this group will have some sort of sway over omb.w, this is a powerful office with sway over regulations and how they are deployed through the various agencies. that right there is a real potential conflict. >> we'll see if anyone cares about it. great to have you on the program. keep telling us what is happening down at mar-a-lago, we need to know. >> thank you, great to be back. >> we'll be right back. back. >> we'll be right back. [coughing] copd is an ugly reality. do you have his medical history? i watch as his world just keeps getting smaller. but then, trelegy helped us see things a little differently. with 3 medicines in 1 inhaler, trelegy keeps airways open for a full 24 hours and prevents future flare-ups. once-daily trelegy also improves lung function, so he can breathe more freely all day and night. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your

we will deal with fy 2025 and at the same time they will set up a new omb operation and they will have to start working on fy 2026, so we will be operating both on trying to complete the fy 2025 work and get onto fy 2026, where we can make sure we don't end up in the same situation next year as we are in this year, and it's going to slow down the administration for the first 100 days because they will be caught up in this budget morass. >> we had one two year budget in recent memory and i have heard from every single service how it gave them the stability they needed, a little bit of breathing room to plan long-term. what do you feel about your budget? granted, your committee would lose some influence. but is that worth it to give the department of defense a little bit more planning and runway, some more stability? >> the short answer is that's not going to happen. >> why not? >> for a number of reasons. institutionally number one. oversight is a big part of this. we can give some flexibility within a one-year budgeting process, appropriations process, on multiyear acquisitions that th

>> i'm certain what a he's doing right now is working with russ vought at the omb, the people at theouse, the budget committee to make sure we have all pieces in place to achieve this effectively. the reconciliation tool should be available to us twice but, again, i'd like to see this done as quickly as possible. the american public has spoken, we need to be doing this post haste, and i'm happy to be here as long as it takes to make that happen. martha: -- maria: senator, real quick, in terms of treasury and the role there, there's also a big role for sanctions. do you have any recommendations on whether or not new sanctions should be added to any of our adversaries right now as this incoming administration begins work? >> the number one priority for incoming secretary bessent has got to be enforcing the sanctions already on the books. there's no end to my frustration with secretary yellen who has told me in committee that, yes, they've imposed even more sanctions on iran. it doesn't matter if you put sanctions on the book, you must enforce them. maria: yeah. >> they stopped the day

david: well it's amazing that at the age of 14 you could become chief economist for omb back in 1970.t's extraordinary. >> thank you. david: but what's also extraordinary is how quickly biden has grown the baseline of the budget in just four years its gone from in 2019, it was 4 trillion and now, it is 6.75 billion, more than $2 trillion increase in the base. we're not just talking about these temporary pandemic programs. we're talking about the inflation reduction act. the chips act. all of these other things. i mean, that's the ev evil cancr of the growth in government. >> yeah they just can't keep their stink'in metal in everything. but again if you're going to do these programs, to make them saleable and to make them work you need to tie government spending reductions with tax cuts, and so you make it so you have the carrot and the stick and the carrot is you'll pay a lot less in taxes. i would strongly recommend cutting payroll taxes, as one of the items there, in exchange for reducing government spending. i mean that is one that be very very good. tie the bills together, and you

i thank you for the work that you are doing, i fully support the omb request for $100 billion. but, that is only the beginning. we have to react differently to storms. this may be the first but it won't be the last like we have seen in north carolina and we owe it to the american people to be ready to do better. thank you. thank you very much, senator. thank you both of you for being here today. we will now have our second panel of witnesses come forward and move their testimony. while they are coming forward, let me introduce them. we are joined today by secretary of transportation pete buttigieg, small business administration is about guzman. deborah terry deputy secretary of agriculture, deputy secretary of housing and urban develop and adrianne todman and fema administrator deanne criswell. these agencies before us today are on the front line of the nation's disaster response efforts. we are very grateful for all of you for joining to share your perspective on the work and needs ahead. we will begin with testimony from each of you and move to our senators for questions. sec

on that specific as it relates to furloughs, i would refer you to omb on those specifics. >> reporter stakes of the shutdown during the holiday seasons, veterans, police officers, et cetera, will the president speak to the american people if there is a shutdown? >> secretary jean-pierre: i am not going to get into hypotheticals. we believe in the beginning of answering your last question is that there is still time to prevent a partial shutdown. we believe that congress, republicans in congress could get to a place where they prevent this. >> secretary >> reporter: when is the next time the american people will hear from the president? >> secretary jean-pierre: it is very easy to fix this. the mess that republicans created. it's very easy for them to fix this. bipartisan deal agreement. move forward. keep your word, republicans in congress. keep your word. keep your word. >> reporter: i have a question on china. in the final month of this administration -- high-level talks between the u.s. and china, last week, as president biden making his final effort to strengthen with china relati

advisory group, the way they announced it was that this group is going to have some sort of way over ombice of management and budget. >> this is a very powerful office. >> very. >> they have sway over regulations and how they're deployed through the various agencies. i mean, that -- and we've done reporting on this -- that right there is a real potential conflict that elon is going to have to face in the coming weeks and months ahead. >> we will see if anyone in the administration cares about it. brian schwartz with the "wall street journal," great to have you on the program. please keep on telling us what is happening down at mar-a-lago. we need to know. >> thank you. great to be back. >> we will be right back. you great to be back. >> we will be right back all yea. ♪ permanent solution! ♪ our local pros are busy installing leaffilter throughout this holiday season, and all the seasons. ♪ year round installation! ♪ leaffilter is the smartest call you'll make all season. so give us a call to save up to 35% call 833 leaffilter or visit leaffilter.com. ♪ and you look like a genius this yea

advisory group, the way they announced it was that this group is going to have some sort of sway over omb powerful office. it has sway over regulations and how they are deployed through various agencies. i mean, that -- and we have done reporting on this, that right there is real potential conflict that elon is going to have to face in the coming weeks and months ahead. next we will see if anyone in the administration cares about it. transports with the wall street journal, it is great to have you on the program, please keep on telling us what is happening to mar-a-lago, we need to know. >> thank you, great to be back. >> we will be right back. will . (other money manager) your clients rely on you for all that? (fisher investments) yes. and as a fiduciary, we always put their interests first. (other money manager) but you still sell commission- based products, right? (fisher investments) no. we have a simple management fee structured so we do better when our clients do better. (other money manager) huh, we're more different than i thought! (fisher investments) at fisher investments, we're