. >> i got caught oncape, my apologies. >> you're good. it's an accurate word. we have the confirmation of brett kavanaugh, justice kavanaugh. what's your takebout how things have falling down here? . it's so politically divided? >> in some ways we've been this way for quite sometime. everybody has their moment of when it started. some will go back to robert bork, others will say clarns thomas, some will s ken starr but you could do -- you could star with the bush/gore election and we've been going in this red and blue mind set. our identities as states become are you red orblue? congress has gotten hit that way.hi ever's been devolving to this. but the supreme court has stayed away. robestimate impact is the are no longer black, they're red and blue and that will have long-term consequences that i don't think we fuelly appreciate it yet. >> when we look at the impact on the supreme court where do you m think we art likely to feel his impact. is this t thing that we'll see wses that the courts avoided taking up orl he be the swing vote? >> i think the new swing