only onehand in the they have.mic, or political response they see that will as effective to keeping their standing in the world. oliver: there are certainly going to be whites was of people who sort of recoil at essentially trusting the survival instinct of somebody who has been very ruthless. somebody who has killed people in his own family. how do you think this sort of approach can sort of us wage some of the concerns or get people to start thinking about this in a more constructive way? can you think of kim jong-un as -- person?part megan: is a hugely important point that so much of this discussion, and particularly how the trump administration has thought to characterize him as someone who is not capable of rational behavior and operating as a lone wolf in a region that is very unstable. however, if we tried to imply a method to the madness, perhaps that will allow us to shift from focusing so much on economic sanctions which are extreme and have not been able to clamp down on their ambitions, on a military re