commissioner ong hing? >> commissioner ong hing: yeah. as you know, i was opposed to the vote in november , but one of the things that was impressive that seemed to make a difference to a number of you was the fact that -- that leonicio had run a very successful program in oakland, and if we're going to have tazers, we need somebody like that. and one of the bright spots that i've noticed while i've been on the commission are -- is the reporting of the cit team, and there seems to be a person in the charge of that who makes sure all parts of the training have been put together for all persons and the team, so we need somebody like that, and that should be embodied in the g.o. >> president turman: commissioner marshall? >> commissioner marshall: well, i'll just say this, as a ceo myself, i trust you will come up with a process to make this thing successful. i have no doubt about that that you will put something in place, and you've studied the oakland model. it's successful. i'm completely confident you will do that. >> president turman: c

commissioner ong hing. >> commissioner ong hing: i'm not sure how you want to handle this issue that i want to raise, mr. president. it could be on another straw vote. i do want to revisit, either as an offering as an amendment or as digression into another straw vote, the special considerations section given the -- the compromise language that was raised by -- by mr. rizk and miss friedenbach. >> president turman: okay. why don't you propose that and see if that's successful. >> why don't we take a motion on this. >> president turman: well, why don't we hear what he has to say, because we may want to add it. so -- hi so -- >> commissioner ong hing: so if you turn to the page on special considerations, which is page six of what we have. >> commissioner dejesus: okay hi. >> commissioner ong hing: i believe that the department understands that -- that there's a heightened risk of an adverse reaction to the use of these weapons on certain subjects because that's what the first sentence is. and it begins, officers shall be aware of the possible heightened risk of an adverse action from t

hing hi >> commissioner ong hing: no. the policy is something they might consider, but it's not a mandate that they use it. >> commissioner dejesus: second the motion. >> president turman: it's not a motion. >> commissioner dejesus: i'm sorry. second the amendment. >> president turman: we're going to take a straw poll on that. all in favor of -- generally take a straw poll on whether or not we would be interested in -- substitute in the language that commissioner ong hing has suggested for the -- a special consideration as it relates to vulnerable populations? let me just see a show of hands if you would be interested in adding that language in. okay. all right. so next, director henderson. >> i just wanted to clarify, again, on that training. i think there's a misunderstanding in the 1(b) section. >> president turman: i'm sorry. we're voting here. [ inaudible ] >> president turman: all right. commissioners, any -- any -- any comments from commissioners? >> commissioner hirsch: yes. i'm still hearing from the dpa that our

let's start with commissioner ong hing. >> commissioner: thank you, mr. president. and you can see on page 6 under part j3 which refers to suspects that are fleeing. and in that circumstance the department's own words are if the suspect is fleeing and doesn't pose immediate threat of harm to officers or public the use is prohibited. i think the intent of assault encompasses what commissioner hirsch is proposing. >> commissioner turman: commissioner marshall. >> commissioner: i'm confused. you said most had been agreed upon. >> commissioner turman: i said consensus reached. >> commissioner: and we're looking at items that didn't have consensus. i'm trying to figure out -- >> commissioner turman: that was the one that was not -- there was no consensus on one. >> >> secretary kilshaw: some of the stakeholders want one all-inclusive and the department wanted to change one word in number three because the department wanted to change one word in that but it's the whole section. >> commissioner turman: all right. commissioner mazzucco. >> commissioner: thank you. i'd like