and oni defranco and joe ulinea folk singer and laborogers and sandy backum.ne of the largest demonstrations i have seen in my life of covering demonstrays were the protests around the republican convention in new york in 2004. what struck me was unlike other mars that had a unifying idea, this is what we are here about. there were will 80 different causes on display in front of madison square garden that day, and i am wondering whether that's a motif of the age that really there aren't one or two or three big causes the way there might have been in other times. but people's attention is going to a lot of different things. >> i think that's right. i think in the introduction where we heard pete talk about big things and little things, you know, he once sitting in a bar explained to me what he called his pomegranite strategy and some other guests may have heard about this. when you open it up, there are thousands of little seeds. he viewed art as sort of being those seeds and going out into all of the various communities that are working to build a better world