, their opc does not cope, they did , with the help of china, which acted as a kind of economic base for this whole process, actually created a military shop for themselves from north korea, a kind of, if we speak by analogy. that is, if during the second world war russia created the urals for itself, like the urals for the soviet union, it is now north korea, they invest a lot of money there, north korea is very, very happy about this, because for the first time in history the kimchanin regime received its there ancestors received a huge investment, now the economy of north korea is growing because russia is investing huge funds, technology and so on, this is all for... it threatens not only ukraine now, it really threatens the asia-pacific region, precisely those allies of the united states, which are japan, taiwan, south korea korea, directly, which russia is beginning to understand. is now raising north korea, and war, for example, on the korean peninsula is already a reality, because kimchi with nuclear weapons now already looks better than south korea, which was actually quite

to work with... the wing of the republican party, which is there for various reasons, interests in opc, interests in foreign trade, it is in favor of continuing to support ukraine, there is an interesting point here, which i think is a little optimistic, because when we remember this vote that was in april, okay, in the house of representatives, the majority of republicans voted against , unfortunately, from the republican faction, but in the senate, almost 10 senators were additionally added to the republican party, and the senators represent the state. not some particular electoral district, but a state, for example, in the majority of the so-called red states that vote for republicans, there is the american opc, or texas, texas, arkansas, other states, yes, absolutely, and this, and this who you can work with and the mood of the voter is still the mood of the voter, in fact, on the other side is europe, and europe can not only produce some ammunition for us, but also buy from the usa, for example, and even donald trump will agree, i think, to sell ammunition, and here exactly the pr

in your opinion, can the opc become independent from the russian orthodox church?ell, this... how is it possible, how can it become independent from the body, for example, the right hand, well, that is, it is impossible, in principle, it is exactly the same story here, you understand, and well, by the way, i would pay attention, that really, if there are people left in the uoc who, for example, well, let's say so, until now, i don't know for what reason they are still there, frankly speaking, that is, before there could be an argument that they didn't understand something there, something else, now actually, well, i honestly don't know, well, let's imagine that there are such people, well... yesterday, it seems, epiphanius made a wonderful appeal to the head of this structure, frankly speaking, i simply do not understand what else can be said, that is, everyone understands everything perfectly, all masks have long been removed, and therefore it seems to me that if these people want to continue to be in the orthodox church, the ukrainian orthodox church , then they

opc mp, it is very important to stay here. this prefix, when we call this group, it hopes that thesee months of delay will give it an opportunity to talk about the issue, and then maybe the country will be drawn into the pre-election process, and let's be honest, in our country, representatives of certain churches, and especially the uoc mp , were very often such vip agitators of one or another party, well, historically it happened that very often the services of this party were used precisely by pro-russian parties , the communists went to this roc church, the opzh also used active services, so to see who did not vote, or fell on a dead fox, pretended that he was not in the verkhovna rada, at the time of voting, there are a lot of such people characters, such as serhii lyovochkin and his friends, who used this opc for many years. mp, in their own interests. but look here, there is an important point, it is now 2024, we are already in the third year of the full-scale war, and the 11th in total in the russian war, it is no longer working whether i want it or not. i want us to treat an

of the twenty-third year, the ukrainian parliament adopted in the first reading a bill banning the opc. in april of this year, the church was banned by the authorities of the rivne region. a similar decision was made in the lviv, khmelnytsky and volyn regions. sentences in britain, the defeat of fugitives in the western press and the price for a place in europe. experts and guests of the editors' club discuss the most important events of the past week. what's happening in kursk region and clap their hands help to carry out such nazi raids on civilians, because this is a war crime according to all laws, because killing innocent defenseless people is a war crime, and this is precisely the black tradition of the fascists of the 20th century, who here on our land killed women, children and old people. buried, burned in villages for nothing, just like that, because they did not correspond to some, as andrei evgenievich said, eye shape, skin color, skull shape or something else, this is very it's scary, but gratifying that always in history, when the swing, historically, swung towards this r

almost unanimously, showman yasinsky generally suggests demolishing the domes of the churches of the opcow patriarchate, after they are handed over to the schismatic church. it is strange that he did not suggests making a portciga from the dome lining. consider their church, please do not allow any christian church to be abolished directly or indirectly, churches cannot be touched. for centuries , the territory of ukraine has been an arena for the struggle of western. benefits from the traditions of orthodoxy, western civilization has embarked on the path of more and more new deviations from the apostolic faith, gradually evolving to its current state, when it professes the cult of the same sins for which they were. according to the holy scriptures of the old testament, destroyed the cities of sodom and gomorrah. that is why the current modern western civilization is called a post-christian civilization by learned philosophers and theosophists, because it is actively retreating from the apostolic faith, and it is logical that the most violent attacks are directed at canonical orthodoxy,

he believes that the imaginary benefit from banning the opc of the moscow patriarchate only serves to justify anti-russian policies kiev. the ban on the orthodox church will bring misfortune to millions of ukrainians. if it is supported by washington and its henchmen, it will further contribute to the de-russification of ukraine. even before yesterday's vote in the rada , raider seizures of monasteries and churches began in ukraine. priests began to be arrested on fabricated charges. after the adoption of the new law, people fear that orthodox priests will be grabbed right on the streets, and their flock will be spied on and fired from work. zinadida kurubatova, vesti. israel struck another school in the palestinian sector. this is the salahaddin educational institution in the gaza strip in gaza city, where the idf believes the headquarters of hamas was located. on tuesday , an airstrike on another school in the enclave killed 12 people. another nine palestinians were killed in the shelling. hamas said that the proposals take into account only the interests of israel, although us secr

independence of ukraine from russia, we hope that it will will be, that is why we ask you whether the opcecome independent from the russian orthodox church, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you have a separate opinion, please write it in the comments if you watch us on tv. take the ether into your hands smartphone or phone and vote on the numbers 0800 211 381, if you think that the uoc can become independent from the russian orthodox church, no, 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. today we have a traditional journalism club and i want to introduce my colleagues, this is olga len, a political viewer, espresso presenter, author and presenter. programs information chronicles of the war. hello, olga. congratulations. and bohdan butkevich, journalist, radio host, author and host of two youtube channels, censornet and showbiz bohdan, i congratulate you, thank you for joining the conversation. we have some problems with communication. i hope that, uh, that we will have contact with bohdan.

russian orthodox church, as they said, he is a member of the synod, here you can say, and in fact, in the opc they often say that we do not influence what moscow does, they enrolled us there, but at the same time we did not hear from them positions on annexation, in them dioceses from the occupied territories, which the russian orthodox church directly subordinated to itself. the destruction of the laurels , which was subordinated to and used by the uoc, the mp, as it is more correct to say in essence, or the roc in ukraine, and many other things, including crimes that did not find their answer from the uoc, if so, then only the entry the russians consider them as part of themselves, but also the steps of the episcopate itself and the leadership of the ukrainian orthodox church... have repeatedly demonstrated that they do not sever their ties and do not burn moscow, bridges with moscow, trying to keep for themselves the opportunity to sit on two chairs. this draft law, it is really historic in its first symbolic part, that in the parliament of ukraine there were votes for such a decision, and

they accepted it normally when i explain it, that it's not about faith , not about religion, in the opc itself, i want to emphasize that everything is not so simple there, there is a radical group that does not recognize the ocu, it. does not even recognize the ecumenical patriarchate, well, they already broke relations with the patriarch of constantinople, the ecumenical patriarch, bartholomew, in chorus with the russian orthodox church of their time, and here it is a radical group that is not only with moscow, they do not speak with moscow, they are deceiving, there is such a radical group in the servants of the people that is very attached to moscow, 60 deputies still did not say yes to this bill, i want you i'm talking about the situation in the ooc, i'm talking about the ooc and those of our deputies who focus on this and that group of radicals, there are considerations, uh, uh, and that's why, actually. these 175 votes, which the faction gave, are actually more, because in my opinion we had two or two statements about malfunctioning of the equipment, then this is absolutely normal

are a lot of such characters, such as serhiy lyovochkin and his friends who for many years used this opc np in their interests. but here, look, there is an important moment, now 2024 is the third full year. large-scale war and the 11th in general in the russian war is no longer working, whether i want it or not. i want us to treat any denomination, parish, church as a service, it is a certain product, it is a certain service, and accordingly you should evaluate whether you like such a service or not, you know, there is such an analogy in my head: we like to eat borscht, but we ukrainians and this is our national. and here you go to one establishment, to the second, to the third, and you won't eat the borscht that you don't like, in which the water is simply dyed red, and there are no vegetables and meat that we are used to seeing there, and in the pcmp, this is such fake borscht, which is offered to us under the guise of such true orthodoxy, they very sincerely hope to somehow make it to this point, so that later the attention of ukrainian society is, for example, directed to some specif

slowly, but moving to approximately 200 parishes have transferred to the ocu in 5 years, while the opc has approximately 9,000 parishes in ukraine, but is it possible to unify the churches? yes, of course, it has long been discussed that the two orthodox jurisdictions in ukraine... need to unite on the basis of the tomos on autocephaly, which was granted by the ecumenical patriarch. after all, the official delegation of the ecumenical patriarch will arrive in ukraine tomorrow, which will also hold talks with metropolitan onufry, metropolitan epiphany and the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, we expect that a certain mechanism or transition model will be found for a pro-ukrainian -minded part of the ukrainian orthodox church. i would first restore communication with the mother church, the ecumenical patriarchate, and then start a dialogue with the ocu about unification. this path will be difficult and long-lasting, but there is no alternative to dialogue. and if we raise the issue of churches, the law provides that the authorities can terminate the lease agreements of ancient ch

such characters, such as, for example, serhiy lyovochkin and his friends, who for many years used this opcin their interests, but look here, there is an important moment, it is 2024, we are already the third. in a full-scale war and the 11th in general in the russian war does not work anymore, whether i want it or not, but i want us to treat any denomination, parish, church as a service, it is a certain product, it is a certain service, and accordingly, you have to evaluate whether you like such a service or not, you know there is such an analogy that arose in my head: we like to eat borscht, but we are ukrainians, and this is our... national dish, and here you go to one establishment, to another, to a third, and you will not eat that borscht, which is not tasty to you, in which the water is simply dyed red, and there are no such vegetables and meat, which we are used to seeing there, but in the pcmp, this is this kind of fake borscht, which is offered to us under the guise of such true orthodoxy , they very sincerely hope to somehow make it this far, so that later the attention of ukraini

will go through this question and ask you and hear your thoughts about what you think, whether the opc can become independent from the russian orthodox church, olga, the question, well, they had it for this, well, i don’t know, six years ago, and from the moment getting tomos, and somehow it didn't work until now, so i don't know, i think it's just somehow time to admit that this is... systemically, systemically, an organization that is, well , subordinate to another country, and that's all, and i understand that it may be that the uoc will have no other option than to become independent from the russian orthodox church, or at least join the ocu. bohdan, you can hear us, well, i hope you will join in, i can hear you perfectly, i can see, everything is fine, fine, fine, everything is much better already, because... but at the entrance there are some problems with the sound, you, in your opinion, can the ukrainian orthodox church become independent from the russian orthodox church? well, that's how it can be, how can it be independent of the body, for example, the right hand, well, that

characters, such as, for example, serhii lyovochkin and his friends , who for many years used this opc mp in their interests, but look here, there is an important moment, it is 2024, we are already in the third year of full-scale war and... the 11th in general in the russian war is no longer working, whether i want it or not, and i want us to treat any denomination, parish, church as a service, eh? it's a certain product, it's a certain service, and accordingly you have to evaluate whether you like this service or not. you know, there is such an analogy that arose in my head: we like to eat borscht, but we are ukrainians and it is our national dish, and here you go to one establishment, to another, to a third, and you will not eat the borscht that you like not tasty, in v which is simply painted with red water and does not have the vegetables and meat that we are used to seeing there. and so the pcmp has this kind of fake borscht, which they offer us under the guise of such true orthodoxy, they very sincerely hope to somehow make it to this point, so that later the attention of ukraini

the representative of the opc, metropolitan clement , responded to the adoption of the law as if. millionselieving ukrainian citizens knew that the current parliament would ban churches, then obviously a completely different composition would have been formed during the elections. the russian orthodox church called the new ukrainian law a gross violation of freedom of conscience. the russian foreign ministry noted the purpose of the law - to destroy true orthodoxy and replace it with a false church. there is no official reaction from foreign countries to the decision taken in kiev yet. the supreme court of germany upheld the sentence of the former secretary, commandant. of the nazi concentration camp stuttgart in poland. in 2022, irmgard furchner was sentenced to two years, suspended for aiding in the murder of more than 10,000 camp prisoners. she did not admit guilt and filed an appeal, and now, four months before the expiration of her suspended sentence , the case has finally been closed. at previous court hearings, prosecutors said that there would probably be no more such trials of for

the opc will be outlawed, most likely as early as may of next year. not avoid thousands of lawsuits in which the orthodox will seek protection from legal discrimination. it is quite possible that these people will defend their loyalty to the canonical church not only in court, since the country is literally flooded with weapons. in ukraine , they are provoking a bloody religious schism. meanwhile, the kiev authorities are confident that the matter is more urgent than persecuting the church, they have nothing more urgent today. it is noteworthy that in 2020, the belarusian, so-called opposition also actively pedaled the issue of autocephaly. it would seem that the absence of a religious conflict excluded the very posing of such a question, but... hasn't said a word in public for months, except from a piece of paper or a teleprompter, she has already cancelled the next televised debate with trump, and may well refuse the next ones, while harris is literally bubbling with ideas that threaten to provoke a nationwide, economic... she has prepared a whole p