and we got a legal opinion, which is what we sought, a legal opinion from you, mr. johnson. we did not seek policy from you. we are very grateful to you for your service. we thank our veterans on the eve of veterans day and we'll stand adjourned. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> next, a panel of u.s. judges talk about the judicial decision-making process among appellate courts. participating in the discussion, judge edith jones with the fifth circuit, and judge brett kavanaugh with the d.c. circuit. this is also by the appellate judges education institute summit. it's a little over an hour. >> good morning. good morning and welcome, everyone, to our panel discussion inside the judicial sanctum, the art and science of judicial decision-making. i'm brad, program chair for the council of appellate lawyers. into book, justice clear and bryan garner think, the right putting aside emotional ago, persuasion is possible only because all human beings are born with the capacity for logi

this was not an opinion based on prop 8. it has to do with every initiative in california. >> no, this has nothing to do with prop 8. the supreme court was very clear about that in the first page in a nutshell they said this is a matter the integrity of the ballot possess. somebody has to be able to stand up and dead the ballot initiative in court. when public officials refuse to do it the people who started the ballot initiative are the only logical people to do so >> reporter: dean johnson thanks for that. more at 4, 5 and 6. terry mcsweeney, abc7 news. >>> other big story occupy wall street protester are calling for a day of action nationwide on this two month anniversary at the occupy movement. police were out in full force in new york city as thousands tried to bring business to a halt at the new york stock exchange. despite their efforts the trading day is continuing as usual. >>> a stand off at nearby zuccotti park. protesters attempted to remove police barricades put up after police evicted the protesters if the park

you think that the company should have counsel's opinion, but you don't ask even to see the opinion whenthe bit i have a problem with is that you seem to characterise this -- your sort of defence for this -- cavalier approach as, "well, this is the news of the world. it's a tiny part of our business. i really can't be bothered trifling about with these sorts of things." i used to work for asda. i don't know how big asda is compared to news corporation. >> i think it's owned by wal- mart, so it's big. >> exactly. asda is owned by wal-mart. i am pretty safe in saying that wal-mart is bigger than news corporation. >> i think you are very safe. >> absolutely. i guarantee that if someone had said to the chief operating officer of asda -- a small but not inconsiderable part of wal- mart -- "we have a problem. a legal case is going to cost us in the region of £500,000," any chief operating officer of asda that i have ever dealt with in my entire life would have said, "for god's sake, let me have a look at that." i find it absolutely incredible that you did not say, "how much? £250,000? let me h

you are talking about the opinion people. talking about the opinion pages. if i am talking to conservatives they say is that new york times op-ed page is filled with liberals and they are making the most outrageous claims and we don't agree with that or they say npr or they say look at hollywood and the movies. people from the left would say what about the wall street journal editorial page or fox news or talk radio. you get people locked in these boxes and now we are talking about the larger environment. without a doubt media in america has the cited this is a niche landscape and you make money by catering to specific audiences that have one set of opinions or another. that is what is happening at the wall street journal and new york times and all around us. it is not peculiar to fox news. they make money by affirming oftentimes opinions. especially smart people in the audience are trying to have a varied media diet and appreciate when they hear a contrarian point of view. my fear that i was writing about is too often people get locked into one box or anoth

this was not an opinion based on prop 8. it has to do with every initiative in california. >> no, this has nothing to do with prop 8. the supreme court was very clear about that in the first page in a nutshell they said this is a matter the integrity of the ballot possess. somebody has to be able to stand up and dead the ballot initiative in court. when public officials refuse to do it the people who started the ballot initiative are the only logical people to do so >> reporter: dean johnson thanks for that. more at 4, 5 and 6. terry mcsweeney, abc7 news. >>> other big story occupy wall street protester are calling for a day of action nationwide on this two month anniversary at the occupy movement. police were out in full force in new york city as thousands tried to bring business to a halt at the new york stock exchange. despite their efforts the trading day is continuing as usual. >>> a stand off at nearby zuccotti park. protesters attempted to remove police barricades put up after police evicted the protesters if the park

you think you have counsel's opinion but you don't have to even see the opinion what comes can be when it's a substantial amount. the problem i have is you seem to characterize your sort of defense for this sort of cavalier approach. well, this is "news of the world." this is half our business. i don't know how big -- spent wal-mart spirit exactly. i'm pretty safe to say wal-mart is bigger than news corporation. i think wal-mart is passionate absolutely. i know the chief operating officer which may be a small part of wal-mart, but a relatively small part of wal-mart, i guarantee that if somebody had gone to him and said here, we got a problem, a legal case is going to cost us in the region of half a million pounds, in the chief operating officer that i've ever dealt with in my entire life with apricot say, let me have a look at that. i find it incredible, absolutely incredible that you didn't say how much? let me have a look at it. i can't even begin to believe that that is a cause of action that any chief executive, chief operating officer could possibly take with so much of a compani

you should have the opinion. you do not even see the opinion when it comes. you seem to characterize this for the cavalier approach. i do not know how this compares to the news operation. walmart it is better than the news corp.. i know that the chief operating officer, which may be a small part of walmart, i guarantee that if someone said here we have a legal problem, in the region of half a million pounds, at any chief operating officer i ever dealt with would have said let me have a look at that. i find it in a credible that you did not say how much is there. i cannot even begin to believe that is an action that he could take with so much of this. >> it is important and i testified this. i've tried to describe this to you in some detail. some detail, just the situation that we had here was ne where assurances were given, very clearly, rather a description was given very clearly a senior legal counsel that the case would be lost. and a description of why it would be lost with respect to the linkage of these voicemail, it was clear it was a losing case. it w

when i read opinions. i now understand much more about how that might have been put in because another judge and it was a condition of joining and working together to try to get a group product sometimes leads to not just a collegial process or a consensus product can sometimes let the clarity for just one judge. >> i'm going to use the term synergy. it has been very interesting to me that when you have an appellate panel or in bond court working properly, it is amazing to me that if you have the interaction among the judges come you truly have an opinion that is far -- the product of that collegiality produces is better than any member of the court. and that's important for attorneys to understand that the more they can engage members of the court in argument, the more they can be cognizant of the individual judges or justices are your opinions in an area appeared they can really give you insight as to where the process can lead. the other thing that's been very impressive during my 19 years on the bench

silverly's opinion. i do not know what they discussed. >> there was no discuss some about the culture of the illegal activity during that meeting? >> absolutely not. >> was this mentioned even in passing? >> they did not mention it. >> information going to the heart of the problem, they've met for a settlement. >> they gave me sufficient and permission to authorize the increase of the settlement offer they had already made. they had commenced making before without my knowledge. they left that meeting with the authority to continue negotiating. they did not discuss them with me in the terms that you described. they did not describe wider spread phone hacking allegations. they did not discuss the wider views contained in leading counsel's opinion. >> you did not bother to ask about his contacts. >> mr. silverly's opinion was discussed with me in context of damages. the relevant information for mr. myler and mr. crone to increase their settlement offers. >> you talk to them for up to 15 minutes without any

again just an opinion not a decision.he governor at the time was schwarzenegger and attorney general at the time jerry brown, refused to defend this in court. brown did say that it was okay with him if backers of prop 8 went to court on its behave. during that hearing in -- be half. during that hearing in september, it seemed justices siding with the spoken but tough questions for both sides. >> i think justice are struggling with this question they are asked to asked to decide an issue of standing which is federal law. these are the california justices they are used to dealing with california law. the judges are struggleing as much as the lawyers. >> reporter: -- whatever the opinion today it is going back to the 9th circuit. if the supreme court says sponsors can defend it goes back for discussions about constitutional if the sponsors have no legal standing according to the opinion of the state supreme court, still goes back to the 9th circuit but the opinion does carry considerable weight. again prop 8 has been ruled u

and how do we live under that opinion? and the more i can anticipate that and provide a clear role, the better i'm doing my job, so i really try the work on that. >> i want to address this from the perspective of the appellate lawyer. i think it's critical to understand the, where the court that you are handling your appeal, how does it fall in the tiers. is it a first tier appellate court, is it a second tier appellate court? so having serve inside the two tiers in my state, our first tier is much more concerned with error correction and has much larger mandatory jurisdiction docket where litigants are there via a statutory notice of appeal process v a right to bring their appeal this. when you get to the second tee tee -- tier and you see a greater docket, of course, the ultimate example of that is the u.s. supreme court. on state supreme courts you have varying degrees of mandatory jurisdiction versus discretionary jurisdiction, so the more the docket cases where the justices actually made a decision as to whether to he

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there is conflicting opinions. a lot of interesting people are trying to work behind the scenes, but i do not see a change any time soon. >> let's go to massachusetts. >> i would like to ask the title bias."ct of media fis what he thinks about that. ul purpose is're sol lambastes thing in a -- their purpose is lambasting. the moderator will ask a question, and within a response, rebuffing, so i guess in general, if any of these guys sees there is a bias that leans towards the liberal point of view. >> we live in an era of advocacy journalism. i go on investment nbc -- on msnbc, because someone has to bring the republican side across. i would rather it be me, and i love doing the show. there is a difference between by us in journalism -- between bias in journalism, and they are trying to spark discussions. there has always been suspicion that "the washington post" and "the new york times" lead to the left. there are a lot of reporters that are very fair in both organizations. the wall street journal leans right, and

opinion. the buck really stops with you. you talk about amending the constitution. we have obviously the amendment. the 13th amendment got rid of the stand of slavery. the 19th, giving women the right to vote appeared 24th, in an adult's and so on. -- the 24th. young adults and so on. since i have been here in the senate, seeing probably 2000 constitutional amendments being proposed, it is probably even more than that. some have serious issues. interestour country's to tamper with the constitution if that can be avoided? >> this is another respect in which we differ from other countries in the world. many countries cannot understand our affection for the constitution. it is no big deal to amend the constitution and most of the countries of the poor. all you need is to have a unicameral legislation passed the amendment, and then there has to be an intervening election, and then they have to pass the amendment began. >> almost like a statue to. >> accept it has to be passed twice with an interve

that is not all that persons opinion. that is a product of the majority of the person who's working life. >> mr. kavanaugh. >> i think two things. one is the importance of judges for moving the docket along, deciding cases and keeping everything moving means that judges are very interested in efficient heat and it also means from the lawyer's death that issues like waiver and concessions in oral argument or thinks judges will be very interested in because of the case that the issue is way up to rebuke to get the case, that is one less thing that judges have to decide in a finite period of time where there is a lot to decide. so that is very important. second, picking up on what chief judge jones said, the collegial process that the group coming to a decision leads to a group input into the opinion. and and so when i used to lawyer said that foot that makes no sense for the first point and click importing our attention, i understand much more about how that might have been put in because another judge wanted that put him a

it is not fair to say it was not his opinion. it is completely his opinion. in the nature of the job,you pick your case is based on what you are interested in. the campaign cases that do not have any strong opposition. i could do that for almost all cases. there was one that was close. i thought of my job as making justice scalia the best he could be. my job was not to convince them to be justice brennan or suitor. you had to study who he was and hold him to these ideals. it was refreshing. it is not every justice that is like that. it is not every justice that would be embarrassed that he was inconsistent with himself. he could use it in a way that he will be one of the most important ones in the history of the quiet. -- of the court. >> what kind of the environment did you grow up in? >> my father is a capitalist. he ran a fabricating company in central pennsylvania. he did not have much patience for politics for law professors. he is a republican. i'm not sure what he thinks about me spending time arguing about politics. he was a hard-working person. use u

silverly's opinion. i do not know what they discussed. >> there was no discuss some about the culture of the illegal activity during that meeting? >> absolutely not. they did not mention it. >> information going to the heart of the problem, they've met for a settlement. >> they gave me sufficient and permission to authorize the increase of the settlement offer they had already made. they had commenced making before without my knowledge. they left that meeting with the authority to continue negotiating. they did not discuss them with me in the terms that you described. they did not describe wider spread phone hacking allegations. they did not discuss the wider views contained in leading counsel's opinion. >> you did not bother to ask about his contacts. opinion waserly's discussed with me in context of damages. the relevant information for mr. myler and mr. crone to increase their settlement offers. i think if all of those other details had been discussed, it would have been a lot longer meeting. >> you a

all i can tell you is that not just in my opinion but in the opinion of other people who are quite well-known around the world, for instance, sometimes do tours, publicity tours with a film or whatever they're unanimous in saying by far and away the worst territory to any kind of publicity is this one. >> and maybe that's right. and maybe, therefore, i just shouldn't worry. i'm just looking for your assistance. that's all. >> well, i think that's right. there's certain pockets of quite toxic yellow journalism around the rest of the world but on the whole it's still done with a certain elegance, an elegance we've lost in the last 30 years in this country. >> thank you. one comment you haven't spared was directed to "the daily mail." rather than in context of the amanda butell, one strips away the factual inaccuracies particularly with respect to the german woman and you made your point about that. do you have any other broader objection to her piece notwithstanding that it is -- it is due very critical of you. on a human level, you say, of course, i do. i don't like to read that sort of stuff.

all i can tell you is that not just in my opinion but in the opinion of other people whore quite well-known around the world, for instance, sometimes do tours, publicity tours with a film or whatever they're unanimous in saying by far and away the worst territory to any kind of publicity is this one. >> and maybe that's right. and maybe, therefore, i just shouldn't worry. i'm just looking for your assistance. that's all. >> well, i think that's right. there's certain pockets of quite toxic yellow journalism around the rest of the worldut on the whole is still done with a certain elegance, an elegance we've lost in th last 30 years in this country. >> thank you one comment you haven't spared was directed to "the daily mail." rather than in context of the amanda butell, one strips away the factual inaccuracies particularly with respect to the german woman and you made your point about that. do you have any other broader objection to her piece notwithstanding that it is -- it is d very critical of you. on a human level, you say, of course, i do. i don't like to read that sort of stuff. but we'

, many opinions, and what i had to offer. i think a lot of times people underestimate what showing up can really do. number nine, always wear comfortable shoes. this is important for at least two reasons. one, it is hard to do your best thinking when your feet hurt. number two, it makes it easier to get away from people who do not approve of your opinions or might be chasing you. number eight, being kind it takes no more time than it takes to be a jerk. i learned most of that whenever is practicing law. -- when i was practicing law. number seven, stand up for yourself, even if you are afraid. you have to be willing to stand up to the police that cross your path, or you will not be able to advocate effectively or anyone else. number six, other people can have good ideas, to come even if i do not always agree with them. my nephew is 9, and he has a hard time with this, but all i can say is we will keep trying. i do not always like to read it, but it is true. in addition to resolving agreements, it makes things go over easier if

i was wondering if you knew of the of her opinions about education? >> education was really vital to her. she always complained her whole life that her mother hadn't allowed her to go to school. they try to educate them through a series of nannies and governesses. she hadn't been permitted to do it. she wasn't allowed to mix with the lower class kids essentially, so she always resented that. she was very well-educated but self educated and impact once when she had to put down on my resume what college she had gone to, she wrote -- even though she hadn't attended in paris, she had once taken a class come, a finishing school class, how to make an omelette and how to sew. because the records had been destroyed she thought during world war ii, she thought maybe she would be able to check. that is about as far as she was educated but she was incredibly well read and a great intellectual. >> professor brody what you teach at the university of redlands? via crude teach creative writing, nonfiction. >> nonfiction creative writing? >> creative nonfiction. >> c

in your opinion, mr. secretary, you mentioned that onshore oil production from public land has increased 5%. >> can you finish up real quickly if you would. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i would enter my statement in the record, and mr. secretary, what plans come if you could submit this for the record because i'm afraid i was too long, mr. secretary, well plan and and that's just for those plans come if any, does your department had to supplement the loss or production of jobs and revenues and safety, this delay will have? i would like for you, mr. secretary, to develop and send back to me and this committee a written response directly addressing these questions. >> if you do that, mr. secretary, it would be very appreciative since we did go over time on that. the chair recognizes the gentleman from florida, mr. rivera. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and thank you, mr. secretary, for being here. it was great seeing you down south, in my district in the everglades and thank you for all your efforts on everglad

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but there is public opinion. everybody is terrified by public opinion.u look at the way the sentiment has changed over the past year, there's no question that it has soured on the syrian government. in the case of jordan in particular, i just received the public opinion poll from jordan that i'm releasing next monday. a pig public opinion poll. the jordanians are opposed to taking the side of the demonstrators in the government in syria. everybody is nervous about that. i think they're responding just like everybody else, every government is trying to respond. the arab league is trying to respond even though it is a league of arab states. >> warner: this is a group of nations that has never been hugely responsive to public opinion in the past, and they often have not spoken out against atrocities by fellow members. is this all a result of the arab uprising? because they're all nerves now about their own positions? >> very much so. i think that they are concerned about public sentiment in the region and not showing themselves to be too much out of step. i

myler saw the opinion or was briefed on the full extent of it. but something's happened between 2008 when it's clear, certainly -- [inaudible] because he was amending it. and also a strong suggestion that mr. crone certainly saw it. nobody else seems to be made aware specifically ocertain allegations. however, 18 months later there is so much evidence that it is brought to the attention. so who brought it to your attention at the end of 20, this whole business of si yen that miller and all the other -- [inaudible] was it tom crone that ce forward? it was a matter -- no, first of all, there were a number of civil actions that were, um, that were following their process as it went through. and it was certainly in the second half of 2010 that the company -- and i was not at this point involved in the day-to-day management of the company. the company started to grapple with this. the company went and proactively requested both the police and the newspapers that were reporting this, i think it was refer today as a "drip, drip" of allegations of the ev

my job is not to give my opinion. my job is to be a true journalist and reporter and stray -- stay true to the facts. >> you have a reputation -- i'm going to ask your opinion. you have a reputation of being outspoken. what is your opinion about the quality of american television coverage of the wars and iraq and afghanistan? >> it varies. it is hard to paint it all with one brush. i do not like here academics who are talking from washington, d.c. and have spent very little time on the ground and to have a controlled experience. there shepherded from meeting to meeting. if you have had not time to taste the dirt with afghan people, if you have not had time to bleed in that dirt, you can never have a true understanding. i do not like shows where listen to academics debating policy. i don't think they know what they're talking about. fore's a lot to be said reporters who spent time on the ground. i have worked to soldier to soldier -- shoulder to shoulder with many great to journalists. richard has done great work. i do

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point what a lot of people are talking about here today is that is the missing ingredient the public opinion here very very disappointed at the announcement yesterday at what we seen playing out in the last week willie as he said the message of uncertainty at a time when everyone was hoping for was a unified front for some decisive action and that's not what we're saying it's all in of course moving forward the situation looking on increasingly unstable ground. and coming up later in the program of fighting the evil india's economy has done little more than deepen the gap between rich and poor making some resort to drastic measures. rather widespread concerns that u.s. police are becoming increasingly heavy handed breaking up the ante corporate occupy protests that have gripped the country for nearly two months now officers used force to disperse a demo at the u.s. capitol and take down tents three activists were struck by a car but the driver wasn't charged now in the californian city of oakland police unleashed tear gas and because of protesters arrested more than one hundred several peopl

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yes for a second month opinions are divided over some of its aims one of them is a tax hike for rich americans who demonstrators are blaming for the economic downturn laurie harshness has been on the streets of new york to ask whether people there agree. the general public has been vilifying the very rich lately so what does the public consider too much money this week let's talk about that more than a million too much money yeah if someone has more than a million should they pay more in taxes yes they absolutely should yes i want too much money so i'm not going to answer. those ten million too much too much for too much when the limit when millions enough to have would say if people make more than a million dollars and they have bet on their bank account should they be forced to give back a moral or a moral and doubts in general interestingly i saw once that the to answer the question do you have enough money the curve goes like this as your wealth increases so people who don't have a lot feel that they don't have enough as they as people get wealthier a higher percentage of the thi

thought it was public opinion some present thought was it by generation. you know going back to the country very often do. a ruling is expected in late june what do you think in the minute we have lost here what do you think the political consequences of that ruling will be in the direction of settling in to dominate the last end of the presidential election i think it all depends on what the ruling is that either way it's either the supreme court goes the opposite direction this number way and so it's unconstitutional and we have to back up from there but most likely i think the supreme court will decide it's constitutional and then president obama can spend the last part of his month campaigning for reelection explaining even more as to why this law is so great for people and i think it's going to highlight for people the stakes in the presidential election because you know as it was on the supreme court it was probably going to be a few openings coming up in the next four or five years given the health of everybody was on it when the attack the court al

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is it your opinion or the opinion of friends of the arafat solyndra absolutely epitomizes that relationship >> about solyndra and corporate connections and things like that? >> the oppose the loan guarantee program on which was created in 2005 and we had predicted that the process would be open for manipulation regardless of which party occurred. >> even if it is an administration that promised a change and we are not going to let lobbyists do anything, so i guess you can share the opinion made on this side of the all but solyndra is really that kind of problem. >> i haven't seen the testimony or been privy to it but i do believe that this was a bad program to begin with and this was a 2005 program which was created but the loan was administered in 2009, is that correct, the loan guarantee? >> it was expanded by the stimulus plan and in fact it was a result of the stimulus plan that the money eventually was guaranteed. let's go on to the next paragraph of the testimony because it says to the functions or once the domain of the public sector from the provision of services, the protection to

world opinion with us. even if it is not translated in the decision of the security council. >> rose: dow believe the world opinion is that it does n want to see iran develop a nuclear weapon. >> including iran itself. >> rose: exactly, including iran does not want to see iran -- >> yes. >> rose: so the question of world opinion is whether iran has a program or no >> exactly rses a clear, focused ongoing program. >> yeah. >> rose: to develop a nuclear weapon. >> yeah. >> rose: was there a program that stopped in 2003. >> no, this is-- well, this is absolutely not correct. we were happy to hear that because partially they considered the american intelligence, the considered that iran-- from tha time on, doesn't continue that. but evenefore that, we never had that program. well, i mean our activity is so open. and-- . >> rose: clearly you know better than that. it's not open. >> it's quite open. >> rose: it was hidden. and you acknowledged it was hidden. >> . >> rose: there were aspects of the enrichment that

this also adds up to isolation for israel its public opinion against israel then there was the other situation you probably remember the incident is abominable circles each and that mike for me thought was not just they were rather unflattering comments from both sides regarding israel and everybody in a puts the emphasis on circles he said that netanyahu was a liar but obama said and i have to deal with him every day which he saw a bomb a little more flattering about netanyahu. all this i think goes to show that israel's policy is not writers in my opinion we're talking the wrong if you will. there's also the so you do admit that it is possible that israel may attack iran. yes unfortunately i do but i really hope that it never happens because this me lead to very dangerous consequences some see that the us she is just waiting for iraq to restore its oil production capacity to start supplying oil to the world marc. after which the usa will clear israel to attack but i would say if this is not quite correct if there ever is a strike on iran i think that iran would everything to gain c