in fact even the opm ig reviewed use of the opm position tool that mr. miller mentioned, and found with their review that for the majority of the cases reviewed, applying opm's tool, they came up with a different interpretation. quite alarming. >> security clearances, we have clearances for individuals but also have for contractors and for facilities, correct? i mean, you also are basically certifying contractors to be able to handle classified material. mr. miller, can you step me through an investigation of a contractor or facility versus an individual? can you step me through the process? >> yes, sir. for an individual, not for a facility. i would ask dan if he could handle that one. but for an investigator, for -- for an investigation, the contractor, the determination that the contractor needs a clearance, it's sponsored by dod, and the department of defense. they submit the individual -- >> again, i'm really more interested in facilities right now. >> okay, can't speak to facilities. >> want to find out how an -- itch the certification is granted,

in response to a 2004 legislation authorizing the transfer of dod's security transfer to opm, opm has continued to enhance the background investigation process by improving timeliness, quality, and efficiency. our successes are due in large part to our partnership with omb, odni, the department of defense, and other agencies. we have no backlogs. we are meeting timeless mandates. and we have increased automation. our investigative services conducts back rent investigations -- background investigations to support hiring, security clearances, credential determinations, among others. the processes supporting these activities are highly integrated, automated, insistently measured against timeliness and performance quality standards. performance data for these background investigations are togely reported o todni,-- odni, executive branch agencies, and to congress. these products and services are used as a basis for making security clearance and credentialing determinations by agencies. since absorbing dod's background investigative or graham in 2005, dod personal security clearances have

in response to a 2004 legislation authorizing the transfer of dod's security hassfer to opm, opm continued to enhance the background investigation process by improving timeliness, quality, and efficiency. our successes are due in large part to our partnership with omb, odni, the department of defense, and other agencies. we have no backlogs. we are meeting timeless mandates. and we have increased automation. our investigative services conducts back rent investigations -- background investigations to support hiring, security clearances, credential determinations, among others. the processes supporting these activities are highly integrated, automated, insistently measured against timeliness and performance quality standards. performance data for these background investigations are odni,ly reported to executive branch agencies, and to congress. these products and services are used as a basis for making security clearance and credentialing determinations by agencies. since absorbing dod's background investigative or graham in 2005, dod personal security clearances have been removed 'som the g

making him the longest tenured federal inspector general of opm. he is part of the investigative program to identify the programs administered. sir, i understand it you are a police officer at st. louis one time. hopefully that past did not pass that senator mccaskill. >> only we could put criminal in jail. [laughter] and. >> very good. he is also accompanied by michelle schwartz. the inspector general for investigations. welcome to you both. martin miller is an associate director of investigations for the services. the largest provider of background investigations. he is responsible for the operation policy and contract oversight of the investigation program. mr. miller has served a long and distinguished career. please come to montana, we are going to be looking for you. then we have stephen lewis was part of the physical security policy and the office of the undersecretary of defense process. that office is part of the strategic oversight over the defense department and counterintelligence including the security clearance process. today, mr. lew

forty-four questions of the 84 questions required by this opm survey. so my first question is why did your agency designed its own survey selectively identifying questions that it chose to ask instead of participating in the survey, which 90% of all agencies participate in. >> i believe that the reason in the survey is that it is a brand-new agency with an infrastructure that we were putting into place that we had a sense that the opm product, which i am familiar with, that it was not necessarily appropriate for us. >> to other executive branch agencies that are subject to more direct appropriations process, do they get to tailor their own self-evaluations the way that the cfpb had done? >> i believe they are participating with the program that they use that particular survey instrument. but there are, i think you reference the 98% and the agencies that don't participate at times. >> isn't it true that we were able to avoid being ranked alongside all the other agencies subject to this more standardized uniform product, opm survey product that now makes

we pay opm $250 million for contractor clearances on government contracts. those funds go to opm. lex i understand pretty well i'm talking about is that public dollars are being used to provide clearances for private contractors. the government are providing contracts. i know the area defense contracting, you get a premium on your contract if the people who are working on your contract have clearance. that is what is irritating me. they are getting a premium for something that the taxpayers provided them. it would be one thing if they were given a premium for something they had paid for, but they are not. they're getting the premium for something that we pay for. that seems dumb to me. that's why i would like to figure out why we're doing that. >> if i could add in there that that is an issue we have to address with the acquisition community, and we will be happy to come back with you with more information. >> i would love that. it is a make any sense that we would do that. >> i'm out of time. >> what measures are safeguards are in place to monitor the personality of dod pravin co

now opm says they don't have the resources to do the oversight that program this important requires but it's more matter of how they are managing money and the fact they are locked in a lot of these old practices left over from the 1950s and '60s that don't reflect how people live today. spending all this time on neighbors and things like that when a lot of people's lives are lived online. he said about 90% of this could be done by a computer and the money that's freed up you could take the people and really get them out there in the field and do some digging to make these investigations more thorough. >> point well taken. thanks. >>> coming up, the jury is now picked. we're talk about six women who will hear the case against george zimmerman. could this help or hurt him? >>> an autopsy reveals james gandolfini died of heart take. he was found by his son. now his family is talking. we have what they are saying up next. [ female announcer ] doctors trust calcium plus vitamin d to support strong bones. and the brand most recommended by... my doctor. my gynecologist. my pharmacist. citraca

in fact, we learned that a contract background investigator who was removed from an opm contract for falsifying reports was later able to obtain contract employment performing background investigations for another federal agency while a criminal indictment for fabricating reports was pending. nothing sums up the problem more than that, don. >> nothing better than that. let's talk solutions here. any reforms to the vetting process that you're hearing about in reaction to edward snowden? >> well, i just got off the phone a couple minutes ago with a former defense the president official who's spent extensive years going through background checks and also overseeing some of these programs. he says the entire system is broken. he said, look, they're spending $4,000 when they could be spending 100,000. you have people sitting there asking questions on a form. did you live at this address in 1982? is julie really your wife? things that a computer could do easily. he says a lot of that could be, you know, done for $100 by a computer. and then you take the people and move them out to do more

we are about to engage in a mandatory training for all of our managers using the resources opm --h opn-- >> that goes to my next question. i understand the claim that cfpb and vest and world-class training. but the survey also asked employees how satisfied are you with the training you received for your present job. employees of your agree that the training they received was sufficient. a failure to train employees reflects for management, does it not? chairman, a fan, i would say that at the time of the survey, we were -- >> when was the survey? ori believe it was spring early summer of 2012. >> ok. area year later, you telling me you are just getting around in the idea of training some people's sense 38 with eight percent are satisfied with 38.8% are satisfied with a tiny bit received. it doesn't reflect poor management? >> i do not think it reflects poor management. >> doesn't reflect good management? >> what it reflects is we are learning how to be a federal agency. >> how long has your agency existed? >> i believed a little over two one half years. >> ok, all right. you asked this