mean economically and politically and joining us now is roland a more executive director of oppenheimer roland let's talk about these numbers let's break them down what's the story behind the numbers you know the story is not a single story it's a continuing story for the last three and a half years as we were into the reception recession in two years ago of course we came up but there's been no real progress you know in the last sixty years we've had four major recessions this recession has had the weakest or most anemic growth in terms of g.d.p. in terms of employment than all of them before i mean we're at half the rate i mean it's been weak it's been anemic but for eleven months in a row the unemployment rate went down new jobs are continually created well you've got to remember you need ninety thousand jobs or hundred thousand jobs every month just to keep pace with the population growth so if you don't get that many you're actually losing grubb you've got to remember the unemployment number is a relative a son that's the number you see what happens is people who go on unemployment get su