you know because people like myself for instance are presented opportunitiest 24% i s close to that. provincial about 23% we hope this number will increase because it insurances that bim issues, issues related to-- and of course in pakistan bim leadership, it is anonymous to benazir bhutto who was, i think it is people like this who are not being a woman under a sleeve who are just being very mainstream yet being i think beinga woman leader brings in some sensitivities which are important in leadership. >> rose: thank you for coming. >> thank you. >> rose: pleasure to you have here. >> i enjoyed this interview. i have to say. thank you very much. >> rose: great to see you. foreign minister of pakistan. thank you for joining us. see you next time. captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org