tavis: i think the deserve the st for his orer child but when those optis orhoices are linked to a prototiveat do we end up here? >> this is not aut profit motive. the great majorit of these scrls not for profit. that reall misses the point. it is about creatg great opons for children. at we saw is schools that storically had 50% dp-out rates, we saw somennovative w schools that had 95% graduation res and 95% of those students went on to college. that is the kind of succeswe ed. we have islds of sens around e country. excellence around the country. what have to do is sca up whatorks. we have to learn those bt actices and make surehat every childas chance get a great education. tavis: y have takenreat crerkts as youhould and the president anall of tse in the obamadministration talke to about the facthat the stimulusackage there was $100 billion set asideor education. more money for education than anything else. i ink that is a good thi but ho do you respondo folks who sa money simply is not the answer >> i couldn't agree more. money is absutely not the only answer. we said unprecented resourc

. >> reporter: there a three key optis. one: a full nationalization the firms. two:urn over to the private sector. and three: rcreating them once ain as government sponsored enties. lockhart, who's soon tleave the agen, favors option three, but ys it's not an easy job. >> if it's done, it has to b done properly,nd we didn't do it properly. obviously, in the pa, there will have be a very clear dividing line, clearlybetween the government's role anthe private sector's re, there will also have to be a very clear division wt their missn is and we have to be clear that thedon't have a mission th causes them to take too muchisk. >> reporter: whater the final choice, obrvers predict a major political battle. broongs fellow doug elliott sa home prices and mortgages matter to middle class arica and mar financial institutions. >> there are fundament econic interests here, which means you argoing to have a lot people lining up to support a largmortgage effort with as much government suidy as possie, implicit or explicit. >> reporter: one question is what will happ to commo

but if the consumer is given an opti. >> even my cat knows what to do with the beep. >> reporter: people like pogue know what to do. >> now recently he wrote that at&t said that exploring options for changing the voice mail instructions. they said it has their attention. and sprint is looking at how to turn off that message. but you still need to know what carrier the person has you can find that information and how the turn the things off on our website on myfoxdc.com. for your fox 5 news money report, i'm melanie alnwick. >>> checking out the radar, a lot of red and rain out there. >> yes, showing the heavy downpours. so when we run for the parking lot, you may want to borrow the umbrella. there could be rain out there r an hour or two, one or two inches of rainfall. not a lot of lightning with it. jefferson memorial probably will get wet later tonight. and where it rained today there will likely be fog before dawn so prepare for that. you see what we're seeing here. moving across the district. everything moving east at about 20 miles per hour. so we see evea little line that extends d

>> ll, i think the public opti is the deal breaker,and you hea the president make promises tday that he can't kep -- he can't promise people that ey won't lose their privateinsurance. if your employer decis to get out ofhe insurae-providing business,you're dumped onhe governnt. he can't talk with any certainty aut what this bill isoing to look like becauset's not his bill. it's beng written in coress. i think -- i heard cynthia mention that mecare -- and that the pele raisingthese concerns are medicare recipien. exactly, th see a programun by the governme that is hurtling toward diastero and congress ing nothing to address the proble with medicare social security, and nowou're asng people to trust that they can do better job with th overallealth care system? >> john diaz, that sort of puts it on the tabl here. are we gting to the point ere this is about trust, aut whether he's making promises he can or cannot keep? is that whe we're heading? rather than to the substae or the component parts of the reform package? >> i think it's very incumbent on the presiden to get the debate back t

and while many peoplstrongly believe in the public optis for reasons i wille glad to expla later, itlly is a diversion. we have 45 mlion uninsured. ife really understand who those people are, wthink there e ways to address the barrie to insurance that they fe. tavis: all right so tell me more then who arthese persons and how do we address the barrier >>ell, let's take the 45 million and segment them and break th down. therare 11 million of the 45 million who are eligib today for a program like micaid or the state children's hlth insurance prram. we don't finthem. we don't get them enrollednd therore they are uninred. one of the things would like to see imore energy and enthusiasm to findnd locate those people who are eligie today foinsurance but we simply don't reachut to find them. if we take another pt of the uninsud, about 10% are college d university students. we know where to fd them. they areery inexpensive to insure. and so between tse eligible four, thmedicaid program and the collegstudents we actually would be ablto cover the significant portioof that group. we also regnize

>>eporter: renting isn't always an opti for owners who e underwater. some peoe can't afford to keep making payments, don't quali for a loan modication and raly have the cash to make up the loss in a sale th puts them in a tight spot. >> really ere's two options, if they haveo sell, it's either sling it short or tuing the keys over and going to foreclosure. those arreally only the two choices because cutting a eck for $100,000s just not an opon. >> reporter: nationwid deutsche bank pricts more homeowners will pulled underwat. 27% of mortgage hoers find themselv in that position now. but that number could climto nearly half bere prices stabile, which deutsche bank expects will happen in 21. research director karen weer says distressed propties aren't the oy thing dragging ices down. >> in addition, we still hav some issues wi the availabilityf credit, particularly in the gh end, with whaare known as jumbo mortgages, wstill have high unemoyment, we still have low consum confidence and all of these are contributing tweaker housg demand in the face of risin

where does h -- or says he wi not support the public opti. where does he get the fift60 vo? has got to dohe math, and if they haveot done that, that is awfully surising. >> why does obama court the reblicans any way? >> he i not courtin republica. are you kiing? iall the argumts are within the democrats. the left democra want the puic optio and thelue dogs are about the cost of the program. the reblicans are entirely irrelevant. he likes tblame it on republicans, but it is within his party. he has a morityn the house that is huge, and a super majority in thsenate. >> but he does nohave a filibuer-proof -- >> he does -- >ted kennedy and natur, so the he does not have 60 ves even if he had -- does not show up,so he does not have 60otes evenf he has every democrat's support him. barack obama is not lyndon johnson. lyndon johns did not have to cope withtalk radio and cable tv. the are very differentimes. >> why not just passed theill you want and let republica filibuster? >> what ll hapn is that yo will end up with a slimmed down bill that erybody agrees wi be high regulation of

congressman,n, anthony weiner said,, not including the public opti, coulcost v votesn thehe house, whihichch could mean def >> some e of us w who got roughp in town h hall meingsnd stutuck inin therere, now feel we havev tire track on our chest where the bus ththat rolled over us i. >> reporter: viviananaurtado, abc news, washshington >>> while the prpresidenwas pushing healthth c ce rereform phoeninix, abobout a dozozen pe owed up outside the convention center, openly flaunting the fifiarms. no crimes were fitted a and ny was arrested. gun advocates say thehey a are exercising their rights to while those f favavoring g gunul says these displays are a growg distuturbing thre to president obama. presididentsts obama are simili ose faced by presidents bush and clinton. >>> alalthought has taken a while appear, the atlantic's firsrst hurricane is up and runnining. bill has grown into a category 2 ststorm, packing windsdsf up to 100 mileles per hour. while ll is well out at sea, it iss gaining strength.. and is on track to blow by bermuda by the end of the week. >>> the fbi says it wl launcnch a

yeah, i woul thwhole thing comes dn to whether there a public opti or n.there no public opon it's a waste of everyone's time and money. tavis: the day aer you made that comment, front pag "new york tim," public tion may be dea and in the days sin that convsation, th's all we're taing about. you have thought nowadays later about the public optn. >> i think one thing thatas slped dead is something tt was very good wch it basically showedfter this is all said and done, t repubcans have no interest in hlth care reform. soon there was talk about giving up theublic option they were backing away and saying co-s are noood earlr and the administration now reazes it will be done wi democrats alone andhat means the will be a public optionecause the vast majorityf demoats in the congress and frankly aajority of america think there ought to be public option. all a public optio isllowing pele under 65 to signp for something likeedicare is all it is. and giving peoe a choice. nobody has to sign up for this. ifhey don't want a government program, then they on't have to si

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>>he president's aides ntinue to insist that he supports public opti.and dmiss talk of dision among democrats. >> and the attpts to sort fact from fictio oppones of health-care reformnsist the prosed changes would t prite insurance companies ou of business. that's fse. nosurprise the issue is also domined newspaper and magazineoverage this month. and stirred stong back and foh on the internet. all in all a lot of heat but how ch light. >> the tth is gettg lost amid all the noise and we talk abt quantity and quality in the health-care coverage now withtrudy lieberman of the columbia review. roger serg, el maging edor of coverage at abc news and tom rosnstiel director of the project f exllence in journalism, search group that analyzes news coverage from numerous outlets everday. as a general proposition whattands out to you about the coverage. >> well, there are three thin. one, the debate h really flown over t heads of most e people. i thin most people don' quit understand what it is all about. and what more importan they don't understand how it effects

liral democrats are in an uproar aft the obama adminisation signaled over the weekend that a public optiwas not an esseial part of health reform. new yo congressman anthony weiner. >> if the president think we're gonna get thvotes thout public option, he's go another thing coming. that won't pass the house. >> reporr: for months the presidentas insisted that a public option was a nessary rt of fixing the country's health care system. this is what he told the american medic association in june. and one of the options needs to be a public opon that will give people a broader rangof oices and inject competition into the health ca market so >> reporterbut the president d his aides have also stoppe short of making the publ ption a deal-breaker. is is what mr. obama said aa weekend stop in grand nction, colorado. >> this is legitimate debate to have. all i'm sayings, though, that the public option, wheer we have it or we don't have , is not the entiry of health care refm. ths is just one sliver oit. >> repoer: those comments, and similar ones made by heal and human services seetary kathleen se

so thewere looking for some alternative that would cture some of the strengths o pubc opti and t theoright opposition of all republicans. so at's how i got in this position a, look, th cooperative model has en ccessful across many business lines r a very long period of time in this country. sot wouldrovide a nonprofit competitor to e for-profit surance companies that, in many states, simply face no competition and lf the states in this country, charlie, there is no effective competiti. >> rose: howard dn said "it's a shame, reall, because democrats argoing to end up ing responsible for kilng th bill. if we stick together li the republicanare, we can get this passed. but unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case. this coromise doesothing expt it will reform insurance. that's a good thg to do, but they ought to strip the money out of it cause 've formed insurance like ts in veont 15 yrs ago. it's a fine ing to do but it doesn't insure me people. the senate finance commiee is really in troue." >> wl, iust disagree with that. look, have greatespect for howard dean, count him as a f

it's one that has the public opti option. there is no public option.ase on the wealthy americans that would add about five percentable points so people who pay over $ -- make over $1 million a year. this is a plan that obama is very, very heavily in favor of, and it's the leading house plan. not that you have to really pick one plan to get a fix on how the system would change. >> right. right. >> this is 1,000 page plan. >> this plan that thank fortunatelily you have gone through, when you look at it with a public option, how costly is it? >> with a public option it's a little bit different because public option would resemble what is now medicare, which obviously, is way underfunded and it's the biggest budgetary problem that america faces. it's about four times the size of social security in terms of the under funding and the future negative effects on the budget. essentially with a public option triple the size of medicare with a very generous public plan, this might help the middle class to avoid some of the enormous direct increases in their premi

saithat he very much was supportg a public insurance opti and was not in favor of an individual ndateor a requiring that l of us get insuranc. and the reason he citeds a very good o, that a lot of people who are not insur, most of them,s a matter of fact, are not insured because th cannoafford the premiums private insurs are charng. and to implement a mandatthat would require all of us to get insurance from the private marketoesn't make any sse. the only way it would work would be r taxpayers to subsidize, to provde subsidies toeople who can't affordhose premiums. so what you wld have wold be my tax llars and yurs going tothese private heath insurers and ultimately to shareholdes. >> ifill: wendell potterf the centeror media and democracy, thank you very ch for givin usour side. >> thank you. >> lehrer: we'll ha more healtcare conversations next week. finally tonight, an ence look another of judy woodruff's "generation next" ories. her series about h young people are coping wi the recsion was a joint project with nationalublic radio. in this report, she oked at two men whthink they've

>> i hesitate to comment on specifics military optis which a state that military principal. >> would it not be a huge contradiction for the administration to tell us they will not release prisoners then continued to eight improved extraordinary renditions to countries that we know darn well to tture? >> i hesitate to comment on specific operations. i am not sure what you have been mined but as a general matter, that is my viewnd i think that is the administration's view also. >> we have been talking a lot about the sensation of hostility. we have no intention of releasing these psoners the we have already deemed so bad that we could that release them even if the court determines they are innocent. where we talking about a cessation of hostilities doesn't that create pblems in the future when we have withdrawn from iraq and afghanistan and still hold prisoners? >> bed chairman -- question the congressman asks is a good one. when does this war and? theris no easy answer to that question. i have not heard one yet from a lot of bright people. that is the reason why we think we have deten

i sought out all treatment opti it was during that time that i sought out any and all treatment options to control my pain. these included a radiation, injections, implantable drug pumps. in 2000 we even tried a spinal cord stimulater. it's a device that electrically stimulates the spinal cord to disrupt those pain signals as they travel to the brain. the spinal cord stimulater we tried was based off of old pacemaker technology. and honestly, it was worse than the problem it was designed to treat. it replaced one type of pain with a new one that was far worse for me and my family. so back on the meds we went. finally, in 2005, i tried a new type of spinal cord stimulater. this one did manage to provide me with some relief. and hope for recovery. the precision plus spinal cord stimulater. this is designed off of technology that is from the cochlear implant, designed to help people hear again. this system allows me to manage my pain no matter what my activity level is. if i'm watching tv or relaxing, or on the salt flats in beautiful utah trying to set a new record. once i got the device,

and what are the funding optis? what are dollars that are available? what suld they go toward? what's doing to make the difference after the event? we still haven't figured out how to reimburse for health re services provided in a disaster. it's very clear in individual assistance programs. stafford act is not set up. iould ask my federal partners to be thinking about this at this point. three areas: strengthing the partnerships, risk communication, and provide guidanceo work with health care industry. when the energy -- emergency management folks are looking at a disaster. it's very clear when they look at the folks in public uniform. they know exactly what they do. they know exactly what the public works people do. when it comes to public health and ems, they areot quite sure. on the ems, a lot of fire service. but public health is kind of new to them. it's kind mf in the area of set of emerging disciplines in disaster medical and health that aren't as well known. i think it's important for us to ems to reach to public health so we have a clear message that w can get to theme