we look less at quÉbec, an grocery shopper in teluca or edmonton, do they make more or less with thistrade law? we'll look at this today. we'll look at the memories of the u.s. chief negotiator. the mammoth nafta treaty between the united states, canada and mexico opened markets at a time when globalization was in its infancy. today, nafta creates 17 trillion-dollar. those against it say the treaty kills jobs, deepens deficits and hurts economic sovereignty. i sat down with one of the original negotiators former trade ambassador karla hills, for her thoughts on the treaty she helped write and it's impact today. >> what did all of the partners have that the other partners thought would be useful, were there things about canada and the nature of its economy, about mexico about the nature of its economy that made them a good fit for a trade relation with the united states? >> when we first started to talk about it, which i remember the trade minister of mexico approached me at dabos in january of 1990. we began to talk about how our two economies could work more efficiently together. and

talk less it seems about what a pope and paperworker in quebec, auto worker, a grocery shopper, or edmonton, makes of this landmark change in trade law. helped pry open markets in a time when defense in its infancy. today nafta produced $17 trillion annually. some that praise it say it is great in a global market. deepens deficits and helps sovereignty. i sat down with one of the original negotiator toes former trade ambassador, for her thoughts on the treaty she helped right and it's impact today. what did all of the partners have that the others thought it would be useful? are there things about mexico, canada, that made them a good fit for a trade relation with the eyes? is trade minister approached me, and we began to talk about how our two economies could work more efficiently together. and at that moment, mexico was highly restricted. we wanted that market. it was only when the rumor got out that we got a phone call from canada saying wait an't many. you just finish add trade agreement with us, you are going to leave us out of this? now that we are at ratification plus 20, is the aver

. >> so is someone standing in an edmonton supermarket or driving a truck in quÉbec, if we stopped andsked them, did nafta work out for you? what would they say? >> i'm sure you would differing opinions i'. i'm sure you would have people who are skeptical of nafta and people who are positive about nafta. trade fo with the united statesd mexico is good for our economy and good for our neighborhood. >> is nafta popular in mexico? >> i think it is very popular. i think after 20 years what we have achime achieveed in trade e united states and canada and once more the deep level of value-added trade. we're the second largest customer of the u.s. as the ambassador was saying, and this is something which is normally taken for granted. we sell a lot to the u.s. the u.s. is our largest market. many u.s. jobs depend on how much mexico buy from the u.s. and many jobs in the u.s. depend on how much canada buys from the u.s. we actually have figured out to really build together and market together here and in this market, and in north america and to the rest of the world. >> does that answer depend

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