when it came to egypt, he had very stern words in the readout that we normally get which, honestly, quite often you can't get a whole lot out of or't understand if there are points of contention in the phone call. it was clear that there were and he very much stressed that egypt needs to do something to protect u.s. personnel. this has to do, of course, with egyptian president morsi's response, which is not even really to acknowledge the attacks that much but instead to criticize the video that has sparked some of the protests that preceded the attack. and listen to what the president said to telemundo, very strong words when you read between the lines, about egypt. >> you know, i don't think that we would consider them an them don't consider them an enemy, so it is a work in progress, but certainly in this situation what we expect is that they are responsive to the insistence that the embassy is protect and the personnel are protected. >> now, carol, the obama administration has long been skeptical of the muslim brotherhood being in control of egypt, but this is pretty serious language when president obama is saying not an ally,

unfortunately they don't want to see a free democratic libya or egypt or tunisia or pakistan. they want an extremist vision for their societies. we have to stand on the side of the majority to ensure that we marginalize the extremists in those societies and also the extremists who put the film together and promoted the film as well. >> i notice that your organization in the statement really did call on the muslim community to also examine the role of extremism within the muslim community, and that's a theme that president obama talked about this week as well in the u.n. speech where he was a little more forthright than he has been in the past in calling on nations to -- and leaders of nations to deal with extremism in their midst. >> thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> in the u.s. there's an ongoing debate over the limits of free speech highlighted by two recent events. a federal judge in new orleans temporarily blocked a city ordinance that outlaws preaches on bourbon street after dark. it the law bars people from disseminated social religious or political messages

century b.c, isn't unlike figures which might have been made in other cultures in antiquity, syria or egyptonly an expert would know the difference. it's not distinctively and obviously greek. there's another problem about it, too, which we have to adjust for. there were traces of color on it, and a duplicate cast has been colored up with what they think to be its original colors. it's a striking difference to the way we're used to seeing such figures. we move on about 100 years to another figure-- one important characteristic of greek art is the extremely rapid development of style-- we find something which is considerably more realistic, still very formal, rather stiff, but quite unmistakably greek. this figure, too, can tell us a little more about her original appearance because she was found with traces of color on her dress and face, and again, a duplicate cast has been restored and painted up to show what she looked like in antiquity. the colors would probably have been muted somewhat by the bright athenian sun. we've got to try to make these adjustments to allow for these figures in

imagine you were an ambassador trying to explain to the president of egypt or the president of china or the president of germany, the chancellor of germany, you know, the president can't meet with you because there's no time in his schedule because he has to go do "the view." >> bill: as a matter of fact, his schedule is open this week. i mean, he could -- he could still do "the view" and meet with these people. it's not like his schedule is so compressed this week. he does have time. >> you have to wonder what he's doing. i mean, i'm assuming there's some rhythm to barack obama that the rest of us don't understand, whether he needs large amounts of rest, whether he needs to go play basketball for a while. i don't watch espn. i mean, i don't quite know what his rhythms are. but this is a guy who's a brilliant performer as an otherrorator, who may get re-el, and is a part time president. he's really like the substitute referees in the sense that he's not a real president. i mean, he doesn't do any of the things presidents do. he doesn't worry about any of the things presidents do. but

egypt visiting d.c. and back again to cover the dilemma between the polarization between islamists and civil or secular powers. you said that islamists in egypt say that the -- [inaudible] was religious or islamic background, and this is not the case. do you think that -- [inaudible] into islam and what he wrote can be a solution to this which i think will not be solvent in the upcoming bills we will have still problems. thank you. >> okay. thank you for this question. first, what you are saying about the muslim brotherhood and what has been said in the '30s and '40s are right -- >> [inaudible] >> no, let me finish. he was talking about changing the individual and the family and the society and at the end to get an islamic state. and this was to liberate the country toward an islamic state. this is quite clear. if you look at what is happening now within the muslim brotherhood, you cannot say it is the same discourse. you might say they are changing words and having the same intention, but what was said recently even by morsi, he said it clearly, a civil state. he said it publicly. so, no, you have to acknowl

a very troublesome thing, and it was really brought home when we were in a country like israel, or egypt, for that matter. but it's a two-edged sword, the separation of church and state. we'll talk about that quite a bit when we get to the social dimension, by the way. part of the problem is that people say, okay, separation of church and state, so religion is taken out of all the other activities in our daily life - the ethical system, we don't look at the ethical system in terms of business. we go to church on sunday, say, and then cheat our neighbor on monday - all these kinds of things, i think it creates a wonderful and fruitful feel for religious pluralism because we have separation of church and state. at the same time - and i really see this in the public schools - it can be a misunderstood message, because it's telling people that somehow religion is over here, it's a private thing. and a religion that isn't lived is worthless, really. i mean, well, it's not worthless, you can drive your vehicle to church and eat the bean supper, and go home. but it's a real problem, and i think

today, the state department said, egypt is an ally, a major non-nato ally of the united states. who is right, the president or the state department? >> the president, i know, feels that egypt is a partner. he talked, in fact, to president mosri today. egypt needs to be abiding by their treaty with israel and respecting that treaty. i am sure the president talked about the parameters that egypt needs to show to move towards democracy and reflect human rights, to better protect our embassy and cairo and come through with a local police force and troops that will protect our people there. >> as far as i know -- >> he is having talks with leaders all over the world as commander in chief to try to make sure our people are protected overseas. >> as far as the state department is concerned, egypt still has that major non-nato ally status, this new government as well. at least the state department. you are a former ambassador. you know the specific designation. israel has that status, australia. i don't know about india. >> as a former ambassador and congressman. i know congress is going to try to weigh in on this to

. >>> my position is not one penny more for libya or egypt or pakistan until they act like our allieskeep sending it, fine. let's send it when they act like our allies. let's send it when they start behaving like civilized nations and come to their senses. >> joining me now, rula. rand paul, if we go with the rand paul view of the world, what happens? >> then the extremists will win. very simple. the more you challenge these countries to democracy -- i'm not sure what he said is true. i'm not sure we give libya anything. pakistan, yes. egypt yes. but we always gave them that in condition of protecting the peace treaty with israel. we gave the pakistani in condition to fellow al qaeda and allow us our drone attacks. in these countries, these reform we're asking will take time. they've been news to be run by dictators for deckates. five american presidents supported the dictators. so to turn the history around and to turn everything upside down, it will take time. it takes education and it takes more than that. the american government is well seen today in arab countries. i was in beiru

have expected that arab spring would be having the same situation like in libya are like indonesia or in egypt or all this type of believe but in case of syria turkey has been good in the last five years particularly very very close to syria thought on their ground became good fellows if you want and suddenly this change of for turkey has done here the policy what the united states of america and european union suggested and this is why they took these people do not support the policy of the government and nato staff member and a civilian contractor have been killed in eastern afghanistan in apparent green on blue attacks the latest such as soltan which many in afghan uniform kill western forces the instant brings the number of deaths among u.s. military personnel in afghanistan now to two thousand after a creation from the pack nationalist forum believes the taliban's revival is evidence of how bad the current mess is in the country. the beginning of the drawdown confirms one very very important thing and i think this should be the biggest story from of one is done today and that is the end t

progress on the peace level in palestine as i just said no development in the development index in egypt or in northern africa or other parts of the muslim world and that actually will lead to the situation for i don't know what is surprising is that this is hillary clinton yesterday said that she doesn't understand this well if she doesn't understand this it means that her department the state department doesn't have enough scientists enough observers or is being misled by people on the ground i don't understand how can the state department be so blind not to expect this man she doesn't understand because some of these protests in the region were strongly supported by washington during last year's arab spring we've also why are they still so. american. well the same question and this is very interesting the same question would apply to the taliban and al qaida if i remember and if many of the viewers and you yourself remember in the one nine hundred eighty s. it was the ronald reagan administration with mr ronald reagan and it was a sign that the time to hold washington especially was supp

but not in libya or egypt because google has blocked access to the video there because of the sensitive situation. >> thank you, halle. meanwhile an overwhelming condemnation of those actions overseas. members of the maryland muslim council stood outside of the state east largest mosque to condemn the aoverseas and spread peace. >> the killing of the ambassadors is in no way allowed in our religion of islam, and anyone who does it is not doing the right thing and is not helping the religion in any way. and we stand with our american brothers and sisters in condemning this violence. >> we condemn it, and we hope that this will not ignite more violence. >> the council leaders point out while they don't condone or accept disparaging remarks on the islamic faith, their rules are not to react with violence. >> and we laronned the 19-year-old shooting victim on a campus was not a student but visiting his cousin who was a member of the morgan state football team and the victim was targeted. also the shooter was not a student at morgan. university officials say they are satisfied with their res

whether people who are liberals like yourself are going have purchase on the new egypt, say fighting for a first amendment ort now that the big boys are in charge the muslim brotherhood must pay attention to it? >> they must pay attention to it. the muslim brotherhood understands their candidate only got 25% of the vote. that's really their base support. what's happening in egypt is the kind of intense discussions that led to your first amendment. my concern, the egyptian side of me now, the american side of me loves the first amendment. the right to free speech and protest. the egyptian side of me questions again and again. why is use of administration supports dictators. don't encourage a move that denies us of the first amendment freedoms. i want to rights that protects the minorities in egypt in the way minorities here are not attacked. >> this is where the rubber hits the road. you are sitting in the white house and trying to negotiate this incredibly difficult, unmapped relationship with the new elected leader of the largest arab country in the world. muhammad morsi says we are going to have a blasphem

democracy well i think people in egypt that are upset at what happened they thought there was a you know going to be a real change when we. things have stayed the same or so used to be clocked really . that would be very poor you know people are happy where you can have got and so i think unless there's real change in egypt this will only continue i'm afraid. in new york land journalist and broadcaster thank you very much indeed for your thank you my site. and the un security council has condemned the killing of the u.s. ambassador in libya russia's foreign minister ministry also issued a statement saying the assault on the diplomatic mission was a terrorist attack and any arks of terror cannot be justified on our reports. russia definitely has already issued in one way or another in its response to the attacks in libya and egypt saying that such attacks can and should that such attacks are strongly condemned and they have expressed their condolences to the united states however there is a belief in russia that this whole is basically a result of the u.s. foreign policy in which all occasion they do make dalliances with the terrorist organizations for

here in the united states of america, or egypt, or in other parts of the world. >> michael, i'm not sure how much we clarified for our viewers. we started the conversation. we appreciate your time and thoughts about a difficult time all across the middle east. good to have you here, sir. >> thank you. >> coming up tonight, an officer drags a woman out of her car during a traffic stop. why he says he had no other choice. >> we aren't supposed to be here at all. but god made the way. >> plus, an nba player is brought to tears as he talks about the long road he had to travel to get to the league. ananncr: a good job. it's the ky to a good life. but it isn't always easy to find one... a vote for question seven is a vote for maryland jobs. two thousand construction jobs to build a new resort casino. four thousand permanent jobs, paying... on average fifty five thousand a year. six thousand jobs from increased tourism... and table games like blackjack and poker. add it up: it's twelve thousand new maryland jobs. but to build it you have to vote for it. vote for question seven. and get maryland

but also, egypt is not an ally. it's not an enemy or an ally. and ally and getting aid, it's an extremely still important relationship. because geo strategically in the region you have israel and when's going on in syria, you have the relationship between iran and syria, as well. and egypt is going to be in that context extremely important. egypt shares a border, of course, with israel and gaza. and the peace accords that were signed several decades ago that the muslim brotherhood president is pledging to honor, you know, are very important in that part of the world so you have all of that and it is extremely important for the united states to maintain stability in that part of the world. otherwise it's goes against the interests of the u.s. and washington. >> hala, thank you very much. we appreciate it. a bit more about the breaking news. there was a pentagon briefing happening at the time and cnn learning and according to a reuters that some people had been arrested and are under investigation in conjunction with tuesday's attack on the u.s. c

and the political debate about form of government in libya or egypt or tunisia is taking place betweenpeople who are essentially all the all truistic and the so-called [inaudible] tunisia. [inaudible] i don't believe that the islamist groups can become income democrats unless they undergo a tremendous transformation. most islamic groups most islamist groups [inaudible] mainstream have a serious problem with women, have a serious problem with minorities. and i settle the issue. we are going to have a huge problem dealing with it unless we settle the issue. these are the transformation and the debate that are takes place in the other worlds. unfortunately our people, the democrats are -- [inaudible] others feel in the case of egypt as being abandoned. if you go to egypts and tiewct students that began the transformation, they feel abandoned. they are sometimes they direct, they level critique of the against the administration here and sometimes it's not [inaudible] especially they say the united states for a long time shunned the muslim brotherhood. ignored them, wouldn't talk to them, n

is egypt our ally or not? , our political panel, byron york and casey hunt and michael crowley. byron! is egypt our ally? >> well, they formally are our ally. it was incorrect of the president to say this. there is something called a non-nato ally. so he's wrong and had to walk it back. on the other hand, egypt sometimes doesn't feel like an ally, i am not sure a lot of people heard that and thought, oh, my god. on the other hand, you know, when mitt romney traveled to england and mildly offended an ally, talk about this british preparation for the olympics, it was a huge uproar. i don't have any problem with obama getting flagged for this. >> the situation on the ground in egypt has changed so fast. this was a country that was -- has been a very staunch ally of ours for decades. we have worked with them in great depth on many of the greatest crisis that we have faced. it has changed and instead of an authoritarian regime that we could -- we knew what they were going to do, if they said they were going to do so

different approach as you look at what we should do and what we thought we should do in pakistan or egypt having a fundamentally different approach? >> great question. i don't know how it could be the one. endeavour birdy the one talk about two countries i mentioned with any specificity. or even the broader region of the arab middle east. maybe it is a punch but i can speculate but i don't think either candidate has done anything. this gets to what you argued in the beginning. we need to draw them out on some issues that are more than just small details and future american policy. >> i have the sense the we have a flavor of what it is mitt romney and obama have been saying ann romney i was trying to articulate earlier is trying to suggest to the world that as he becomes president it is going to be a reaffirmation of american exceptionalism and that will mean more than an emphasis on defense on the military than what it is secretary clinton is working on right now. there's a distinct difference between suggesting what his administration is going to be like and what it is the obama administ

we bought the government under mubarak and now there is a new government, whether it is libya or egypt or syria later on, it will be the al qaeda that will take over so we don't benefit, israel doesn't benefit, the taxpayers don't benefit. it is a foolish policy. it will come to an end. the sooner the better. >>neil: the argument we hear, congressman, we step out, china steps in, russia steps in, all to our detriment, all to embodien iran and to embolden sinister moves to us. >>guest: they are smarter than that. they probably won't do it. if they do, i think the soviets and the russians had their fill of it when they were in afghanistan. they were stung badly. they wised up and left and went through the disintegration of the empire. china doesn't have this history. they are like a catalyst. they invest in iran and invest in the countries. they do not have the same characteristics we have had for 100 years of putting troops overseas and occupying countries and picking and choosing dictators. it is a possibility but unlikely. if it did, it would fail to them. if it fails for us, it would

always come back together on the issue of president mubarak, what is happening in libya, tunisia or egypt i think we have to look to the future on how things were dealt with when these events took place. and the united states has made declarations and has offered advice and the availability of expertise, all these countries to take advantage of and the kingdom has offered these countries, those that are needy like egypt and it is for example yemen, of course, economic aid and the billions of dollars so we thinking of the future. >> rose: speaking of syria. suppose the president of syria said, look, i'm-- i understand, i see and some terrible things have happened and i'm-- i want to get out. i realize my days are numbered and i want to go to saudi arabia to live out the remaining years of my life. what would your government say if it met meant the killing stopped. >> i can't speak for my government. >> rose: but you know your government. >> but let me give you a historic background on this. because of the presidents of the-- presence of the two holy mosques in saudi arabia, the air rainian

amendment which would make sure that the money in that bill for foreign assistance did not go to libya or egypt. i read the document they put out and it does not prohibit the money from getting to libya and egypt. the muslim brotherhood runs egypt. they hate the united states. and the president has said he want to model his country after iran. in libya, they killed our ambassador and scaled the walls they burned our flag they did it in egypt and held up the al qaeda flag. and we're going to give them money. it makes no sense. and if the american people were paying attention to this right now, they would raise hell. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from florida rise? >> mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> thank you, mr. speaker, this monday a prominent cuban dissident launched a hunger strike to draw attention to the unwavering attempt to persecute pro-democracy su

does he want to be president of egypt or an islamic leader of the mob?is relationship and the country's relationship with the united states will depend on that and more broadly the ability of these countries to chart a moderate mainstream modern course is going to be powerfully affected by these kinds of choices. this is what they have to decide. >> absolutely. fareed zakaria, always a pleasure. >> thank you. >> don't miss his show on sundays here on cnn, of course. >>> and speaking of president obama, and mitt romney, as well, both back on the campaign trail today talking about the economy. we'll hear what they had to say and that's next. you know, because you been, you know, this is what you had been doing. you know, working, working, working, working, working, working. and now you're talking about, well you know, i won't be, and i get the chance to spend more time with my wife and my kids. it's my world. that's my world. ♪ >>> president obama and mitt romney both back on the campaign trail today, both still reacting to the anti-american violence overs