i don't talk just about immigration, whether it is corporate subsidy or things like obamacare, other e siness lobby has made a deal with the devil. we'll go along get along those things, and i tell you why, i think it happens, they unlocked individual citizen or small busineness own or entrepreneur, they can afford the record keepers, lobbyists and tax accountables and lawyers it takes to keep up with the mandates and regulations that come withhis lik obamacare, they end up being only people in the market that pushes the little guy out, whether you talk about obamacare or internet sales tax,hat chamber and others were behind earlier, that is a new tax, why are they calliig for a new tax? big groups like amazon.com and others can handle, that woman who is to sell her art on esty that is a big hurdle, have you more big government, not our pricing that big business that can afford and work with, it coming out, supporting it. lou: we have the issue now of note new tralty, -- net new tralty, a contest between the gatekeepers. watching what is happening wa netflix, and verizon, and others.

i don't talk just about immigration, whether it is corporate subsidy or things like obamacare, other where the business lobby has made a deal with the devil. we'll go along get along those things, and i tell you why, i think it happens, they unlocked individual citizen or small business own or entrepreneur, they can afford the record keepers, lobbyists and tax accountables and lawyers it takes to keep up with the mandates and regulations that come with things like obamacare, they end up being only people in the market that pushes the little guy out, whether you talk about obamacare or internet sales tax, that chamber and others were behind earlier, that is a new tax, why are they calliig for a new tax? big groups like amazon.com and others can handle, that woman who is trying to sell her art on esty that is a big hurdle, have you more big government, not our pricing that big business that can afford and work with, it coming out, supporting it. lou: we have the issue now of note new tralty, -- net new tralty, a contest between the gatekeepers. watching what is happening wa netflix, and

the affordable care act, or obamacare, is unaffordable and unsustainable in the long term. we know there are a lot of problems with it. we also want to make sure we are doing all that we can to help iowans and make sure that iowans are doing the kinds of things that can help them live a healthier, longer life. host: why not go ahead with the straight expansion of medicaid? guest: it is not affordable or sustainable. i have watched medicaid expand and expand over the last several decades as the health of americans goes downhill. we are trying to do the opposite. we are trying to improve the health of our citizens and get people to take ownership of their own health. we did work on a compromise between the senate democrats and the house republicans on our health and wellness plan. we then had to get a waiver from from hhs. it took until almost christmas eve before they gave us the waiver. better job of providing opportunities for our citizens to live longer and healthier lives. what are the priorities when the house republicans return this week? according to eric cantor it is

but what looks better on a bumper stick, obamacare job killer vote gop or obamacare's estimated reduction in the workforce stems almost entirely from a net decline in the amount of labor that workers choose to supply rather than from a net drop in businesses demand for labor, vote democrat. besides, besides, people should be chained their their need for insurance to jobs they hate. that is what built this country. you think anyone wanted to be a pilgrim? no! but they stuck it out for the buckle insurance. (laughter) even then, even then it was a pretty high buckle deductible. -- deductible. (laughter) buckle deductible. (laughter) in other news, folks, it's no secret that america's wealthy are under seechblingt it's like the french revolution these days. but our poor people are too lazy to put on uplifting musicals. but they've got plenty of energy to demonize my friend venture capitalist tom perkins. he is suddenly public enemy number one just because he had the courage to speak truth to poverty. >> there is outrage today over comments made by venture capitalist tom perkins in a letter t

or obamacare won't cut medicare. or obamacare will create jobs. and who can forget if you like your doctor or health plan, you can keep them? these were lies. these were untruths. they were the promises that were made and summarily broken. that is why so many americans are outraged. it is time for washington to stop dismissing their concerns and start listening to their concerns. another disturbing moment, in fact, i think it's perhaps the most disturbing part of what the majority leader said, after he read the column from "the hill" he said this -- quote -- "it is time the american people spoke out against this terrible dishonesty and about those two brothers who are about as un-american as anyone i can imagine." that really bothers me. accusations about who is un-american are deeply troubling, and to me, that is an unfortunate comment when we refer to anyone. from the earliest days of our republic, it has been a tactic exerted by those in power to humiliate and discredit those who bring a different background or who have a different point of view

democrats who are vulnerable or take a look at president obama's bad poll numbers in the states or obamacare'sl numbers. while the president's low quality care act will help some people it will be devastating for others. that doesn't make me happy but does make me confident. governor dean, back to you. republicans are ready to go with one unified message. and we already have ads running on that message. take a look. >> more than 470,000 north carolinaens had health plans cancelled. health care costs are soaring and families are losing access to the doctors they trust. kay hagan think obamacare's time has come. >> there is plenty more where that came from. you will be seeing that all year. what would you tell democrats to say in response to ads like that? >> amend it, don't end it. i have said this for a long time including other times on this show. i think obamacare will be a net winner for us. the reason is as time goes on more and more people are getting health care. some of those people are republicans. it is really hard to get people to hate obamacare if they are benefitting from it. kentu

taken from medicare advantage and these seniors who rely on it to shore up the affordable care act or obamacare, we know that the news on obamacare continues to unwind and bring us bad news almost every day. not only have millions of people lost their existing health care coverage even though they were promised by the president of the united states that if you like it, you can keep it. i lost count of how many times the president made that statement but i think it's somewhere in the high 20's. now we're finding out that more and more people are having to pay higher premiums as a result of obamacare. this is another promise the president made. he said that a family of four would see a reduction of $2,500 in their average premiums. but they're seeing their premiums go up. indeed on friday in a late afternoon news dump that has become a new art form for the administration, their dump news on friday afternoon and hope nobody notices or it won't be covered. we learned roughly two-thirds of the people who work for small businesses will see an increase in their premiums as a result of obama. some 11 m

the affordable care act, or obamacare, has a huge impact on employers. and they're making economic decisions to determine how many employees they hire and what sort of hours that they ask these opposed to work. can you tell me in a short amount of time what impact that would have? >> yes. we looked in report and outlook on the effects of the affordable care act on the demand for labor. we highlighted two channels, one was defective the overall demand for goods and services and unemployment. the other is the effects of the employer penalty, the demand for labor. in the very short run, requiring employers to pay something the amount for each of the employees in some circumstances amounts to raising the cost of those employees and would lead employers to reduce their number of people they hire. but we expect as other analysts believe that over time, costs that employers bear for their employees into being borne by employers in the form of lower wages, health insurance causes one example in this mandate would be another. so we think after a few years the cos

she will be known for providing critical support for the passage of obama's affordable care act, or obamacare. when it looked like it was going to fail at the last minute, and our ability to, and her sort of relentlessness in taking that job and lobbying members and helping members of congress in working to get things done is really quite remarkable. i think the jury is still out but if there'll be any criticism of the pelosi speakership it will be whether or not there was too high a price to be paid for some of those legislative accomplishments. in the first two years of the obama white house, the house of representatives under her leadership has a slew of major bills and some of them became law, some did not. some of them were tough votes for moderate members of her party, votes on climate change, votes on obamacare, and those members subsequently lost reelection. it's not clear if the votes necessary cost the reelection, but for some of them and they've made it a difference. and to the extent that it did it may have cost democrats control of the house of representatives. so this is a dilem

spoke for 30 minutes mentioned neither barack obama or obamacare.n make a difference maybe on the margins, he can come in and fire up blue dog democrats, but he is not going to be able to change reality. and the reality is republicans -- republican ad makers, republican strategists are doing everything they can to tie democratic candidates in any possible way to obamacare. many of them voted for it it bill clinton can say whatever he wants. that's not going to change the reality of obamacare. >> "yes" or "no," hillary run? >> slight yes. >> she is running unless something happens to her health. >> unequivocal yes. >> that's it for the panel. stay tuned for international sports trash talk. coach of the dutch speed skating team offered this rationale. >> do you do you think that that was one of the reasons why the americans didn't do well, the suit? >> the suit was one of the reasons but not because it was bad. just because they believed it was bad. for skating you have to believe in yourself like americans always do. americans always believe that the

so is obamacare hurting jobs or not? hi, everybody. i'm david asman. welcome to "forbes on fox." let's go in focus with steve forbes, rich carlguard,

incentives, in the last week or two they put out a couple of studies, number one, the minimum wage, going to lose up to a million jobs. number two, they're looking at obamacareor the equivalent of hours work lost. if you were sitting at the council of economic advisers and you see cbo coming out saying these policies could lose 3.5 million jobs, wouldn't you want to change something? >> sure. the congressional budget office has done a great job recently. i'm a very big fan of doug elmendo elmendorf. i've known him since he was a student at harvard. a lot of these policies have much more adverse incentive effects than the obama administration is willing to admit. the minimum wage is not a particularly good way to help the poor. there are better ways like the earned income tax credit. they're not really expecting to get anything done, i don't think. they're trying to change the subject away from obamacare to talk about other things that might pole better in order to do better in these mid-term elections coming up. >> a meeting between speaker boehner and president obama one-on-one, first time they've met alone in quite some time. what i get from the story, mr.

we haven't heard the truth about health care or obamacare or however you want to put it.ontinue to think that i guess they're telling the truth now. i guess they really do have 3.5 or 3.2 million and maybe they are right out and maybe they are not. and maybe it will improve my love life or my being friendly with dogs and strange animals. it's like they're telling to sell this thing and it's just not working, i don't think. >> i'm going to leave the dogs and strange animals out of it. [laughter] but did you think that your contestants over the years, i know money can play a part but i've never thought that i could imagine in this day and age that health care coverage would be like an aphrodisiac. >> i think one of the first things a woman asked a man she mmets him in a bar anyplace else is do have health care coverage because i don't and i'm going to be a test you and i want to make sure that i'm covered. what a great opening line. [laughter] >> by the way, i have health care coverage. [laughter] neil: it gets back to the stupidity of all of this. they are marketing it to

i don't think he cares aut growth or theunemployment rate or the cbo report or what obamacare is gngo american jobs. they don't care. i know the don't like when i say that, they care about making people dependent on government. in their eyes, the cbo report and the report jobs are not being created doesn't matter. it perfectly fine. >> you must have had an exchange today. >> president of the robert beck el institute, which is short on facts sometis, but not on passion. >> we are going to carry your water for you. beckel we wod be happy to have you on. >> he's a good guy. >> isn't that the case so often. >> they mean well. >> very well. isn't it fun to be patronizing? >> it sure is. >> thanks for being with us. appreciate it. >>> a minnesota businessman claiming victory in the battle against the nsa and department of homeland secury. the federal agencies took issue with the parody t-shirts and mugs that made fun of them. mocking slogans like nsa peeping while you're sleeping and spying on you since 1952. >> president obama using a pen and phone to rule by fiat. on the constitutionalit

or north carolina. >> on top of that, democrats will see a slew of new republican ads being released today attacking them on obamacare million americans will either quit their jobs or cut their hours because of obamacare. senate democrats have actually crafted, in my view, an extraordinary piece of legislation. >> joining me now is democratic pollster, margie o'mara and joe watkins, a former aide to george h.w. bush. great to see both of you. margie, kick it off for us, we know red and purple-state democrats, vulnerable right now, but is it enough to distance themselves from the president? and you heard claire mccaskill very clear, no, i don't necessarily want the president there. >> i think for any democrat running, wherever they are running, the secret is going to be to communicate personally to voters, to make sure voters understand their story, and also know and make sure voters know that the candidate understands them, that the candidate really cares about what voters are going through, and that's something that democrats in purple states, red states, blue states, have a very clear advantage over republicans on.

. >> but they go beyond not liking obama or obamacare they need an inspiring vision bringing together party. who is saying it? >> repeal obamacare keep your eye on the ball it's going to wreck the country. there is only one way to repeal it. public education sucks and that hasn't fallen on its own, subway system, airport security. irs. it doesn't fall on its own. have you to elect republicans. >> in the mean meantime? >> these people are just trying to get money off good americans. >> in the meantime... >> do you know they're going after establishment republicans? democrats? >> the republicans don't fight on the debt keeling and give obama a blank check? >> give them a majority. >> are you saying they couldn't get the key stone pipeline? or -- >> they can't. >> they can't get anything? >> don't fight. >> no. no. fight to give them a majority. then, we'll repeal obamacare. and have to keep those pipelines >> they have the senate and house. then, what are they going to tell us? give us the presidency? then we can do something? >> no. no. >> obama is still their president >> not if we, w

became the stupak amendment, that would prohibit -- that would prohibit abortions funded under obamacare or required under obamacare. well, as that debate ensued, the message became clear that the white house was negotiating that the president was simply signing an executive order obamacare after it passed, after it passed and would fix the stupak version. that's the shorthand version. but any case, it was breathtaking to hear the president in the white house who believed he could sign an executive order to amend legislation after the legislation passed and announced to so to get the votes pass. that sounds like legal jibberish. the president, according to the press, promised he was going to amend obamacare with executive order and the stupak language would remain intact after it was stripped out in the senate and we ended up with obamacare that imposes funding of abortion in all but a very few cases, to give an example, here in the house of representatives, we are compeled to sign up for obamacare. if there was a way out of it, i would have found it. and there were 112 different programs t

this latest reportcomes on the heels of the last cbo report last wwek or two weeks ago say thag obamacare was going to cost us 2 million jobs to 2.5 million jobs. it ties into the same general policy. >> michael, this administration committed to this rule by fiat now. other presidents have used and used some of them more extensively than this. there is a declaration on this president that he means to go around congress with these orders and actions, which sets him apart from the previous presidents. what do you thinkhe results -- where are we headed with this? >> i'm struck by the president saying i'm eager to work with congress when i can meaning when i want. this is the greatest failure of the obama presidency. the policies are rot ton, but the refusal to negotiate with things he can't get. it's either my way or the highway on everything. as you say, he's now actively looking for areas that he can use executive order andome of these things may be thrown off by the courts eventually. in the meantime, we are now passing through into a new kind of presidency where acting as though congress

. >> the affordable care act or obamacare has taken steady hits. >> call congressman peterson and tell him obamacare has not been working. >> it's a liability for the democrats. something that they've struggled with since it's passed about yes. >> obamacare is still the main challenge for democrats. >> is it the issue of the election for democrats? >> it's not the issue they would choose, certainly, but it's the issue that they're going to have to co contend with. half see it unfavorbly. only a third feel good about it, an 16% are on the fence. but ignoring obamacare is a bad strategy. they know since the election results since 2010 are proof. now democrats are trying to take control of the conversation. >> ann kirkpatrick listens. >> the political action committee is spending tens of millions to get more democrats elected to congress. >> the purpose for the ad ad iso underscore all the protections available to people as a result of the affordable care act, but also pointing out the problems of the roll out of the website which are uniformly recognized. >> so democrats have to defend o

inflated or not, the white house says 3.3 million americans enrolled in the private part of obamacare. it saidnothing about the 6.2 million getting cancellation notices from their private insurance. a net loss of 2.9 million. so is that encouraging, or will obamacare continue to cause more people to lose their coverage than get it? hi, everybody. i'm david asman. welcome to "forbes on fox." "in focus with stephen and others. are more people losi private insurancthan getting it? >> absolutely. the ratio of 2-1, small businesses when they nally bring in the rest of obamacare, tens of millions,everal milln people certainly are going it lose it there. this thing is just beginning. my daughter, for example, got her policy cancelled. the president said you could have it back but the state of new jersey got word from the heth and human services department, regardless what the president ys, your policy doesn't qualify. overbloated policies. people who like their policies are losing them and it's a burden on the economy. >> rick, numbers show it. a net loss for people getting prive insurance?

three big comprehensive pieces of legislation that passed into law proved disastrous, dodd-frank or obamacareo begin to address the issue individually and begin irking on things there is agreement and consensus on and use that to build momentum to finish the job. >> there was an article in the new york magazine who wrote this about you. i'll read a sentence or two. compromising on immigration means handing a legislative accomplishment to obama, a taboo that dwarves any idea logical commitments. so rubio was cast in a role nobody could play. >> i live in a community surrounded by immigrants. i see the good, bad and ugly of immigration. i know people who have become citizens and watch them weep at ceremo ceremonies. i see people here illegally to violate our laws. i see people here illegally because children are desperate and hungry and will do anything it takes to make children better off. what enlisted me to do something about it is not just that part about it, but the fact that we have a broken legal system. we have a defacto amnesty. here is the predicament. it requires the government to en

the affordable care act, or obamacare, has a huge impact on employers. and they're making economic decisions to determine how many employees they hire and what sort of hours that they ask these opposed to work. can you tell me in a short amount of time what impact that would have? >> yes. we looked in report and outlook on the effects of the affordable care act on the demand for labor. we highlighted two channels, one was defective the overall demand for goods and services and unemployment. the other is the effects of the employer penalty, the demand for labor. in the very short run, requiring employers to pay something the amount for each of the employees in some circumstances amounts to raising the cost of those employees and would lead employers to reduce their number of people they hire. but we expect as other analysts believe that over time, costs that employers bear for their employees into being borne by employers in the form of lower wages, health insurance causes one example in this mandate would be another. so we think after a few years the cos

if the referendum is about obamacare it doesn't bode well for them. >> what's the bigger issue, obamacare or just president obama? >> in some of the swing states where they're having to defend obamacare it is kind of dvend defending obama by proxy. david pryor the senator run for re-election. gwen: mark prior. >> yes, he's in a state that benefits keyedingly -- exceedingly from the obamacare program but obama is so that there he -- unpopular there haye -- he probably has to keep his distance by association. >> some of the state with low insurance rates are the ones that have been most resistant. gwen: last week we talked about the president using the pen and the phone and what he seems to be focusing more on rather than defending his signature domestic fliment is to change the subject. decided when c.v.s. to stop selling tobacco in their stores. they're getting someone else to do the work they know they can't get passed in congress. am i overreading that? >> even in the campaign the president spoke little about obamacare. the one place you did see advertising about the health care law was on

or exceed projections. >> do you think obamacare will remain controversial or change as it takes effect? the rollout was unacceptable. what's important as we improve and get the mechanics to work better is to remember what the affordable care act is really doing for the people of my state and the country. we wanted to make sure people who never had coverage before habits of the people getting this health-care expansion through the medicaid program is about 50,000 people in my state who had not had access to health care. we had people who had pre-existing conditions who now have access, young people who can stay on their parents plan. >> you sound like an optimist. >> it's about getting coverage. creates apopulation healthy workforce and a healthy economy because people will have to primary and preventative care and it will bring costs down. in our state, we have had high health care premiums for a long time even for people who could get insurance. we know a family plan and new of about $1000 was for the uninsured. we are going to have some challenges implementing this and every new proje

obamacare. for us republicans, it's all about the midterms. there's a great debate raging in my radio audience. they are argue iing about wheth orwas smart to vote -- to raise the debt ceiling. it's all got to be about obamacare. if you believe the numbers, democrats are phase faising a losing proposition. if republicans win. >> i think the gop is pacing a health crisis of its own. why? because 3.3 million people have decided obamacare is the way to kbo and we're likely to get 6 of the 7 million projected signups by the end of march, which is amazing given the disastrous rollout. here's what's going to happen. people are signing up -- >> why do we get reports they don't want the president campaigning? >> the president's approval rating is not help fful. why would you want the president if the approval rating is low? 55% of americans also say obamacare is the law. we're tired of the providing no alternatives or solutions. they are just trying to repeal this. 55% say it's the law. let's try to fix it. let's try to optimize it. but people are signing up. >> i have a number. 9% of american families that we polled say the family is b

agency is no where near ready for some of the big changes coming under the affordable care act or obamacare. the irs commissioner is warping they won't have the manpower to answer all the phone calls next year when the new healthcare law shows up on people's tax returns. in fact the commissioner says they don't have enough people to answer the phones right now for this tax season, even before obamacare goes into full effect. the staffing issues after the congress cut the budget of the irs, and the -- mike emanuel is live in washington. this commissioner has a list of complaints. >> that's right. the new irs chief says money and resources are definitely a problem. they have 150 people working to provide documents to investigators, looking into the targeting of conservative groups by the irs. and he says customer service is suffering due to a lack of manpower. a former irs commissioner is sympathetic. >> the new commissioner has to make some tough choices because there just isn't quite enough money to go around and he has to pare back certain areas, and the acknowledge to get through on phone

the affordable care act, or obamacare, has a huge impact on employers. and they're making economic decisions to determine how many employees they hire and what sort of hours that they ask these opposed to work. can you tell me in a short amount of time what impact that would have? >> yes. we looked in report and outlook on the effects of the affordable care act on the demand for labor. we highlighted two channels, one was defective the overall demand for goods and services and unemployment. the other is the effects of the employer penalty, the demand for labor. in the very short run, requiring employers to pay something the amount for each of the employees in some circumstances amounts to raising the cost of those employees and would lead employers to reduce their number of people they hire. but we expect as other analysts believe that over time, costs that employers bear for their employees into being borne by employers in the form of lower wages, health insurance causes one example in this mandate would be another. so we think after a few years the cos

million to lose 2.3 million and none are created. >> because the media doesn't question their math or the obamacare policies or even read -- no, this is true. that's why we're sitting here. we have been the only ones saying it. now everything is coming home. >> i think their spin over the last two days is what has made people more mad. people can deal with the facts. they get irritated about the spin. and it undercuts obama's message on inequality. hard work is rewarded. so if it's a good thing that people get to make a choice to work less, then what about the people who have to work more and earn more because the only way you're going to improve your lot is if you work harder. >> if that's the case, why isn't the median income -- >> your team, when you have a bad case, you can't make it, you bring in these crazy little gimmicks. take a look. take a look at this video. >> that's fine, i understand that. it's fine. i just want to know why it is the freight free market has not created a damn great job for the middle class. >> the video. i'm begging you. >> that was happening in bush and obama. >> loo

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telling states that they can get exemptions from the no child left behind act and things like that or the obamacare decisions that hed l made, which is simply waiving the requirements for the mandate, employer mandate and then the recess appointments he made to the national labor relationsor board. this is a lot different than taking executive decisions and executiveffer authority or regulatoryci decisionsis that simply -- discretion to the regulatory agencies have been accorded over time. this is a did he degree altogether. >> how much can this president really accomplish going out on his own?goin can he fulfill an awful lot of his agenda this way? >> a fair amount. there are obviously limits. for instance, in the gun debate he really wanted gunli legislation that will, for instance, restrict the capacity of magazines. he need congress to do that. he has not been able to do that by executive order. but there's tons he can do and you do see him doing it in places like the environmental protection agency. he didn't get congress toe ar pass the cap and trade bill for him but he is in essence institut

now we have the president delaying some more deadlines for businesses to get into the obamacare system ore their employees get into the obamacare system or provide it themselves, and it seems to me that that again is more uncertainty, so what is the overall effect of these delays as businesses look and whether they should hire up or lay off, steve? >> well, delay of a year or two when the president does it by decree, nothing was written in the law that allowed him to do this, that just raises the uncertainty. you don't know what the rules of the game are. you know the way this thing has been playing out, it's done more harm than good. 6 million individuals have lost their policies, and the uncertainty that that creates when you know small businesses, when they get hit with obamacare, there's going to be another surge of people looking for new policies, so, again, that kind of uncertainty, that kind of expense slows job creation down, and the fact you may get a reprieve for a year or two, very nice, but you're not going to make long-term commitments when you know the results can be changed