it is strange the marriage between parts of the american right and viktor orban when orban has been so close to china over the years. obviously, china is anathema to that segment. host: is there an economic connection? guest: there is an economic connection. it is not unique to hungary. all over the world, china is using leverage to buy support in countries like hungary. host: julie on the republican line. caller: good morning. i have to say that the caller before me ask the question i wanted to ask. my point right now is this. why is it not ok to be conservative? why is it not ok to think a man and woman should be able to create a child? why is it ok for this country's catholics to think abortion should be in the law forever? codify it, codify it. why is it long for we to have our opinion, and the left, their opinion whether wrong or right, it is what it is. who cares what we think? the other part i wanted to mention was that our president wants to codify abortion. he is supposedly a catholic. no matter how you look at this, ok, abortion is death. host: we talked about abortion in the

orbÁn is speaking today.of orbÁn comes just days after he delivered a racist speech in romania criticizing what he called race mixing in other european countries. >> there's a world in which european peoples are mixed together with those arriving outside europe. that is a mixed race world. and then there is our world where people from within europe mix with one another. amy: orbÁn's comments sparked outcry even from within his government. one longtime aide resigned describing orbÁn's remarks as a "pure nazi worthy of goebbels." budapest's chief rabbi zoltan radnoti also criticized orbÁn's remarks. >> we cannot accept in any way the kind of communications that includes talking about racists and mixing of races within the jewish community. this invokes painful mems. amy: so far, none of the prominent conservatives scheduled to share the stage with victor orbÁn at cpac have condemned his racist remarks. that includes far-right tv personalities sean hannity and glenn beck, senator ted cruz, and congressmembers la

this guy, orban, has been around for quite some time. he had some things to say about president obama. it does seem to me that he is the foremost promoter of christian nationalism and anti-migrant paranoia in europe. would i be right about that? >> yes, you absolutely would. so in the migrant crisis of 2015 when more than a million people came from syria, iraq, so forth seeking safety in europe, orban was the one who built a wall. built a wall before trump built a wall, who pushed people back across that wall. he separated kids and parents. the thing that he did actually in 2015 was exactly what trump went on do later. so he has been exactly a model for republican efforts to deal with the border, and i might say that one of the shocking things about his speech today, here is a foreign leader of an allied country who has come to the u.s. to meet at the convention of the opposition party, and one of the things he said was we must coordinate the movement of our troops because we face the same challenge. he's recruiting the republican party

has learned from orbÁn, when orbÁn first came to power, he distrusted the civil service because manyot on his team, so to speak. he used the excuse of an imf austerity program which hungary was under to say we need to fire a big chunk of the civil service. so they change the law that protects people who work in civil service from political influence and fired thousands of people who were not associated with their political party. they then reinstated the law under civil service and orbÁn increase the size of the civil service from what it had been when he first came to pow, except all the people were his people. have just seen there was a scoop a couple of weeks ago that there now these boot camps training young conservatives of trumpist mode to a neatly and government as soon as the republican is elected and the idea is they will transf a lot of civil servants onto this thing that trump invented in his first term called schedule f which means you reclassify them and suddenly they don't have their job protections anymore. and whoever the republican president is will be able to fire a

she's an expert on authoritarian leaders, like viktor orban. and people have gone after you a lot in the last several months, because you and i have talked about it. you've spoken a lot about viktor orban and how out of step he is, in fact, with his nato neighbors and europe. but he continues to gain popularity. i should point out, which i think he'll do anyway, he wins elections, but every election is a little bit less free than the last one. >> yes, that is right. and the reason he's the idol of the gop as he has shown the workings of what's called electoral autocracy. and he calls, you know, he talks about hungary being an liberal democracy. there's nothing democratic about it at this point, where he's managed to have this, you know, capture the institutions and his party as a huge amount of power, so that the elections are kind of rigged. and in fact, the last election of his opponent hadn't been invited on national tv since 2019. so, there is the veneer, freedom but the practice, it's despotic. and that's what the republicans are very inte

for saying these things out loud, orban has been vilified.im lane scheppele, a constitutional scholar at princeton, explains, the bond between republicans and orban goes back years. kim: orban's election campaigns in 2010 and 2014 were run by american republican party electoral consultants. laura: orban's white nationalist ideology has isolated him from other european union leaders and he has incurred sanctions from the european union. he's adopted anti-immigration policies and has campaigned against the lgbtq community. >> we decided we don't need more genders. we need more rangers. [laughter] less drag queens, and more chuck norris. [laughter] laura: over the last 12 years, orban successfully transformed hungary's democracy into an autocracy. experts in autocratic governments warn that orban is giving republicans a blueprint to replicate. scheppele describes orban as a legalistic autocrat, someone who dismantles the law to achieve their constitutional aims. kim: when you see that orban wins these overwhelming election majorities, it turns o

still, orban was welcomed with open arms by republican leaders. as seen here in video produced by his staff, orban trekked to bedminster, new jersey, where he met face-to-face with former president donald trump. >> we love hungary. >> ladies and gentlemen -- laura: and in dallas, texas, at the conservative political action conference, known as cpac -- >> viktor orban. laura: -- orban received keynote treatment. >> now the west is at war with itself. laura: he painted hungary and white christian americans as allies in the struggle against a progressive global order. >> i am here to tell you that our values, the nation, christian roots, and family can be successful in the political battlefield. we made these values successful and mainstream in ngary. don't worry. a politian cannot be a racist. laura: and went on to ovide counsel on how best to achieve that vision of america. >> in order to win, it is not enough to know what you are fighting for. you also have to know how you should fight. my answer is, play by your own rules. laura: but this week's

and that's very important to orban. and so in fact, at the end, he said, oh, we need to make new agreements with the chinese, the russians, and the americans, but it might be easier, you know, with the republicans. now he didn't mention trump, which is very, typically autocratic, because very opportunistic and he didn't mention trump at cpac and he didn't mention him to keep things going, it might not. >> an expert on authoritarianism, we appreciate your time. >>> well, up next, the issue that has republicans panicked about the midterms. stay with us. out the midterms stay with us you're a cio in 2022. so what's on the agenda? threat briefings, it meetings, and lots of coffee. but with fully integrated security solutions all in one place. you're ready. comcast business. powering possibilities. ™ . if you take tudor dixon at her word when it comes to outlawing abortion, she told us exactly who she is. >> are you for exemptions of rape and incept? >> i am not. >> any exemptions for rape and incest or the health of the mot

this is not new rhetoric from viktor orban. for years, liberals have been warning about the danger of this. yes, i would argue, fascist, leader. as the american far-right has embraced him. last year, fox host, tucker carlson, took his tv show to hungary for one week of shows, fawning over orban, and his policies, which are anti-immigrant, anti-lgbtq, and anti-freedom of the press. now, it is not just liberals who are condemning orban. it is a recent condemnation of the hungarian prime minister. quote, i didn't know how you noticed that you are presenting a pure nazi text worthy of gerbils, referring, of course, to adolf hitler's chief propagandist, joseph gerbils. that does not come from a left leaning msnbc host, or a democratic congressman. those are the words of viktor orban's own, long-standing advisor, who worked with him, for 20 years. he quit over that speech. can you guess where viktor orban is still welcome? even revered? that would be right here, in the u.s. of a. at the conservative political action conference, takin

cpac with viktor orban. i want people to research who viktor orban is. research him and if you are satisfied voting with republicans and trump [indiscernible] i thank you for taking my call. host: pamela in ohio, democrats line. go ahead. caller: i am calling about jim jordan. the supreme court of ohio has struck down the gerrymandered maps the republican party has gone through, so that forces us to only have jim jordan, who should not even be in there, he should have been prosecuted for his role in the molestation of the wrestlers at ohio state. also, the fact he was directly involved in january 6. he has done everything he can to skirt out of that. he is a dishonorable representative. i find it amazing the state of ohio is going to force us into this vote where the map is gerrymandered, which we voted on years ago to throw that out. host: is he your congressmen? caller: jim jordan. we live in ohio. i have to put down a zip code but i'm actually down the road, which is in his district. host: eric is next. republican line. caller: good morning. the most

this is not new rhetoric from viktor orban. for years, liberals have been warning about the danger of this. hun6 those are the words of vik all arriving after a widely condemned speech when he berates europeans for a, quote, mixed race society. he claims that country soon, have welcome migrants from outside of europe are, quote, no longer nations. they are nothing more than a conglomeration of peoples, adding, quote, we do not want to become peoples of mixed race. this is not new rhetoric from viktor orban. for years, liberals have been warning about the danger of this. yes, i would argue, fascist, leader. as the american far-right has embraced him. last year, fox host, tucker carlson, took his tv show to hungary for one week of shows, fawning over orban, and his policies, which are anti-immigrant, anti-lgbtq, and anti-freedom of the press. now, it is not just liberals who are condemning orban. it is a recent condemnation of the hungarian prime minister. quote, i didn't know how you noticed that you are presenting a pure nazi t

because orban represents white christian nationalist values.tian, we'll keep you out of our country. and if you do happen to be in our country, you would be legally subordinate, just as you would be if you are a woman or if you are lgbtq. that is the vision that the cpac and much of the republican party wants in the united states. >> one of the things i don't necessarily understand, peter, is how the relationship is beneficial to viktor orban within his country. like, why is he pulling around with media figures on the conservative right? does that boost his influence within his own country? >> orban -- i think hungary is the 17th largest economy, just in europe. hungary is not a very powerful country. so i think that viktor orban gets the ability to feel like he is a global leader who is shaping things in the united states, the most powerful country in the world. and remember, there is not a free political system in hungary now. he's done to the hungarian political system what donald trump is trying to do to the american political system. so wh

it was good of viktor orban to spell that out.white nationalist in viktor orban, and the american families at aipac have in mind, when the rage against immigration, and the great replacement. they want to take us back to the dark ages. let's say a bit about viktor orban, and why this is beyond a despicable choice for a speaker at cpac, in a long line of despicable choices of people that claim to be conservatives, but quite frankly stand for the republican right. as we go to the midterms, republicans can be proud of racism, and viktor orban going to cpac. perhaps backing a bill of rights, to use joe's words, and so on, and so on. i don't know where this is going, but i find it quite frightening. it does not appear to be dying. >>> viktor orban 72 has been shunned by most of europe. he is seen as too far to the right for europe. it seems he can find a home here in america, particularly at cpac. you can come to america and find yourself among friends. he is not only somebody who espoused views that have been described as nazi. one su

strong leaders who are able to negotiate a peace agreement, did bohdan find grateful listeners of orbán usa and how loud is his voice in europe, well, in the usa, obviously, at least the participants of the conference where he spoke greeted him with applause and ovations, meanwhile in europe. if we talk about the volume of this voice, it is not loud, but it is noticeable because he is alone. hungary in fact, it is the only one of ukraine's european neighbors that occupies a special position by not helping ukraine militarily, for example hungary does not even allow western weapons to be transported through its territory for ukraine at least budapest especially emphasizes this. but again, the single voice is emphasized. lonely , in fact, because even the recent ideological allies of the orbán government, and the right-wing government in poland, said something that it was actually severing relations with hungary that existed until recently because of uh, disagreement with hungary's position on ukraine and orbán's position on relations with putin, at least among the members of this conserva

country systematically inhibits sanctions against russia, and the scandalous statements of viktor orbanlame it, the already tense relations between budapest and kyiv, and although the russian attack on ukraine , the local government condemned the military aid for the armed forces, they are in no hurry to transfer it, so why is orban so friendly with russia, we will ask my colleague, the bbc correspondent georgy erman, about this. i congratulate you , georgiy. you studied the topic of relations between hungary and kyiv. what is your opinion, is it possible to change the political vector of budapest regarding ukraine good evening in the near future the coming years - this is unlikely to be possible because hungary depends on russia in terms of energy, i.e. 85% of gas 60 five 80% of oil the country will receive directly from russia and also the nuclear power industry of hungary is essentially now being managed by a project that will be implemented with the help of a dewy a-and for viktor urban, all these projects and this energy cooperation with russia are very important because uh, these

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victor orban is doing everything for his people, she says, he loves his people.soft breezes off the danube, history flows through this city, the fast never far from the surface. and with a possible recession on the horizon the fear is the prime minister is looking for scapegoats, something this part of europe has seen in the past. john? >> ben wedeman looking at liberal democracy and the echos of history. thank you very much. >>> all right. more votes coming in overnight in several key primary races with election denialism on the ballot and some voters going for it. we're going to break down the latest numbers. >>> plus the jaw-dropping revelation at the alex jones trial that could have huge implications for the january 6th investigation. ttress firmness. the sleep number 360 smart bed senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you both comfortable. our smarart sleepers get 28 minutes more restfuful sleep per night. save $500 on thehe sleep numbr 360 c4 smart bed, queen now only $1299. lolowest price eve! lactaid is 100% real milk, just without the l

is the majority of it represented by senior cpac with viktor orban up there?kers feel like they have to cater to that crew, because they are the most boisterous and fervent of the activists in base? >> this is the republican party, this is the mainstream republican party, unfortunately. i know a lot of my republican friends are holdouts, hoping that one day, and the bush era republican party will return. that is dead and gone. this is not the conservative political action committee or its now the coup convention. this has gone mainstream, thanks to donald trump, thanks to the cowardice of the mainstream republicans that we used to know, like shermichael and i used to look up to and respect. those folks have stayed silent and acquiesced to the crazy, and this is what you've gotten. if you look at the lineup of the rnc conventions, these are people who are rejects, that never would have been allowed to step foot in any type of republican mainstream event. even cpac's icon to, just like shermichael, i am older than him. i have been going to cpac for a long time i

. >>> another speaker who took the podium was viktor orban. given a warm welcome as he delivered a speech called "how we fight", suggesting a kinship with america's conservative movement. >> we have to be brave enough to address given the most sensitive questions. migration, gender and the clash of civilization. don't worry, a christian politician cannot be racist. if you separate the best in civilization from his judeo christian heritage, the worst things happen. things were carried out by people who hated christianity. >> orban set the stage for former president trump by criticizing the liberals, the news media and the democratic party. for more perspective, let's bring in head of the u.s. and america's program at chatham house. good to have you with us, leslie. >> thank you. >> as to hungarian prime minister, he's been accused of consolidating power in his own country and undermining democracy. he gave a speech on thursday entitled "how we fight", speaking of his fight against progressive liberals and said globalists can all go to hell, thi

. >> and also victor orban is going to be there.aligned with vladimir putin and also questionable moves if you are interested in democracy. he is getting a lot of attention there, a lot of folks who are excited about his appearance. >> orban is not just an ally of putin's, he has a fan in donald trump. donald trump was president in 2019, hosted or banorban and praised him and endorsed his bid for a fourth term of hungary's prime minister. and just recently trump hosted orban at his bedminster new jersey golf club. and orban has become popular manage a lot of conservatives for that hard line immigration policy that he has pushed forward and some of the culture war rhetoric. but if you can believe it, orban might be even more controversial speaking here than donald trump. in fact just late last month, orban gave a speech in romania in which he engaged in what a lot of people considered racist and anti-immigrant rhetoric. he even seemed to make a joke about the holocaust. that caused one of his top aides to resign and she said that she

we do not know for sure why orban's attitude changed, but he had a telephone conversation with zelenskylso sent the commander of the hungarian defense forces to ukraine. more than half of hungarians consider putin a political criminal. such survey data solutions policy - 38% disagree with this statement, the first time i read the articles and knew that the situation was very bad, so i stopped doing it, it is very difficult to find a true information in hungary is terrible, it is an absolute tragedy what russia is doing to ukrainians and unfortunately, i think this is for a long time. i think it is putin's war, he is a dictator, a large part of russians do not support the war and are fleeing the country themselves, according to polls, 42% of hungarians believe that putin attacked ukraine due to the genocide of the russians in ukraine, 45% do not believe the differences that existed between hungary and ukraine . anto stated that they expect more supplies from russia from september alina bugaeva oksana seniv from hungary the only news on social media mikhail gorbachev, the first and only p

why hungary should stay away from the war with the question why the president of ukraine turned to orbanlater. we did not even get what everyone else is doing for the sake of peace. received the vital transit of defense aid we saw no moral leadership we saw no effort to stop this war and the whole danko hungarian political expert writer former diplomat he headed the defense policy department of the ministry of defense of hungary, in addition to these duties, he was also responsible for the arms control mission in the donbass and in the crimea since 2014. he traveled to ukraine half a hundred times after 2014. we felt that there are actually incidents against the hungarian community and i i think that this is still a difficult relationship, reminiscent of the relationship between hungary and ukraine, which worsened after the law on education, which was adopted in ukraine in september 2017. in transcarpathia, the expert says that there is an enclave with russia in hungary, there is no friendship, only business we need gas and oil, our refineries are set to work with russian oil, if russian

there i saw such numbers, that is, these are excess profits, that is, when viktor orbán talks about uhentionally speaking, losses, he earns in parallel, well, in addition, there are corresponding gas contracts here. it was interesting that when hungary signed a new gas contract with gazprom with russia in september of last year, there in parallel in the same period was also signed by serbia and these two countries are quite interconnected and in fact with russia and precisely with regard to energy carriers, plus gas goes to them via one route through the turkish south stream and there it even reaches the point that uh, the question is who stores gas where, who sells gas to whom, because they have this russian gas that they get uh under a profitable contract and also sell to each other. here, for example, according to the information of uh, hungarian media, the last one is uh, there are even certain problems now they are appearing in hungary, because there are none of them . of course. also, as they say, for the record, i will only say to the other participants in our discussion that ev

so hungary should stay away from the war with the question why the president of ukraine turned to orban we didn't even get what everyone else is doing. they do it for the sake of peace, they did not receive the vital transit of defense aid, they did not see moral leadership, they did not see any effort to stop this war, but the whole danko, hungarian political expert, writer a former diplomat he headed the department of defense policy in the ministry of defense of hungary, in addition to these duties, he was also responsible for the arms control mission in donbas and crimea since 2014 and traveled to ukraine a hundred times after 2014. we felt what the incidents against the hungarian community really are and i think that this is still a difficult relationship, reminiscent of the relationship between hungary and ukraine, which worsened after the law on education, which was adopted in ukraine in september 2017, ukraine's position on the rights to smalchyn did not violate it, on the contrary, hungary tried to create an enclave with russia in transcarpathia, the expert says, there is no fri

there's putin, viktor orban, trump, desantis.able and getting what you want through force, that is the thing that apparently what much of the republican, what used to be called the conservative base but is now really the authoritarian base, is for. >> strongman who gets what he wants to force but also hits upon these divisive wedge issues and let's say it, crosses the line in a flat out racist language. he did it at home and he's doing it in dallas. and those remarks got cheered in that arena. tell us, just how worrisome is this and what does that say about where the republican party is right now in 2022. when tucker carlson goes to hungary and the leader comes here and get cheered? >> we need to see cpac for what it is. john is right about this being enamored with strongman, what is at the heart of it? we heard great placement theory. there are echoes of eugenicists theories, there are historical parallels, the know nothing parties of 1850s, david reed of pennsylvania, 1920, at the heart of the 1924 immigration act which created

they are coming to the white house, hungarian prime minister viktor orban.ve hungary orban also does not go into his pocket for a word, causing irritation among european liberals, in dallas, among the conservatives, the hungarian politician turned out to be his own on the board. us need less genders and more rangers less transvestites and more. chakov norriss orban is against anti-russian sanctions, he criticizes ukraine and the president is called the hungarian trump, and he, apparently, does not mind. in my opinion, stra. tegabalist leaders strengthens and prolongs the war and reduces the chances for peace without us-russian negotiations, there will never be more peace in ukraine and more people will die and suffer, and our economy will be on the verge of collapse. i can't tell you what to do. this is your decision, i will say one thing. we ukraine's neighbors really need strong leaders who can negotiate a peace sos we need america a strong leader last week also touched on the ukrainian conflict criticizing the actions of the biden administration in a radi

this was orban's biggest applause line of the day. watch. >> the hungarian state institutions are obliged to protect the christian country of hungary. hungary will protect the institution of marriage as the union of one man, and one woman. family ties shall be based on marriage, or the relationship between share parents, and children. to sum up, the mother is a woman, the father is a man, and leave our kids alone. full stop. and of discussion. >> let's be honest, that rhetoric that lgbtq acceptances, somehow, a threat to children is more than just a dog whistle. >> don, it is. viktor orban is an illiberal populist. he is part of a trans national movement. you call it for the alternative for germany and germany, le pen in france, ukip in the uk, trumpism in america, the five star movement in italy. there is democratic backsliding going on in hungary. i can't understand why cpac would give a platform to a man like this. yes, he does all of the dog whistles on, immigrants on, the lgbt community, and others. so, i am astounded that cpac w

vict viktor orban is popular. tucker carlson is one of the world's biggest cheerleaders for authoritarians and they echo the republican party base. and we better as a country, get our arms around this because the job now, jim, is to defeat them. >> i agree with that, joe, and you know, a lot of folks might be looking at their tv screens now saying why are you showing trump? why are you showing this stuff and sticking your heads in the sand. thank you very much for your time. we appreciate it. >>> right now, the senate is on track to vote on the democrats healthcare and climate bill. we'll bring you up to date in a few moments. and a top democratic senator will join me live, next. feel the rush ofof performance at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. i typed in my dad's name... and i found his childhood home. he's been wondering about the address for seventy years... (chuckle) and i found it five minutes. travel back in timin no time with the 1950 census on ancestry. i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis.

they're eloquent with people like orban and warding people off. >> important advice.john avlon. john berman is off today.

today's marquee speaker at cpac is viktor orban, the prime minister of hungary. quote, we do not want to become peoples of mixed ray. orban's long-time advisor slammed the speech and resigned, saying his comments were unacceptable, even by the standards of the most bloodthirsty racist. yet, cpac never pulled its invitation. our friend amanda carpenter spoke about what cpac has become. >> when i went to cpac as a young conservative in washington, i remember the stage welcoming leaders from ukraine who were pushing back against russian aggression, and those were the types of people who were celebrated, but i really think things changed under trump. under trump, there is a fascination, respect, obsession with strongmen on the international stage. and i think it has a lot to do with conservatives losing the arguments when it comes to the things like race, identity, and immigration here at home, and looking for support abroad to sort of bolster their positions. >> earlier this week, orban visited trump at his golf course in new jersey, and the former president will be

he triggers all the other people that they hate, and that is why they like viktor orban. they don't actually know what the policies are in hungary or, you know, appreciate the detailed policies in hungary and so i think that that is where potentially some republicans i think are gettable, right, because that base makes up a big portion of the republican party. they control the party no doubt, but what we saw in kansas is that there are republican voters that don't want to go all the way down the rabbit hole on all these extremes. you know, even pro-life voters, i'm pro-life but the hungarian rules sound reasonable to me. >> right. >> i'm pro-life but i think there should be exceptions. i don't want there to be bounties at women's heads at four weeks. i don't want like in missouri a doctor to have to call a government politburo before they can operate on a woman. i mean, like -- like that is not a popular position, even among some people, a minority maybe but some people that voted for donald trump, and i think those folks are gettable and that's what's kind of working rig

bush visited hungary, victor orban was one of the emerging leaders of the push for democracy in that, george w. bush, would never have embraced that type of leadership of a country and the autocracy behind it. >> for them to go out of their way, sam stein, if you want to nail this down in less than a minute? >> sure. yeah, i think david hits the nail on the head that the animating principle on the right at this juncture, two things. one is that the election was stolen from donald trump. and if you are to argue otherwise, you are seriously at risk of losing your seat. and then the second thing is that, you know, there's a threat of anti-immigration. you know, you could call it right-wing nationalism, that basically says we need to stop migration into this country at all costs. those are the two things that bind the party together and they're the most prominent features at cpac this week. >> well, sam stein, david jolly, anita mcbride, thank you so much for wrapping up our week here today. we really appreciate it. happy weekend to all. that does it for this expanded edition of "andrea

orban.we know him well. he respects and at the expense of the hungarians, our cooperation was good in the past, so we can hope that it will be the same in the future, that is, mr. orbán will see donald trump again in the white house in the future, well, at least he wants to see him, and that was this kind of open campaign precisely for the 45th 45th, which can again become the president of donald trump well , we will see, obviously, after joining nato, sweden will participate in the r of this institution, but will not place nuclear weapons on its territory, the minister of foreign affairs said today in this way, she probably tried to calm the leadership in the kremlin, which began to shout that after the accession of sweden and finland to the north atlantic alliance, nato might appear near the russian borders nuclear weapons, i would like to remind you that finland and sweden signed the protocol on joining this military-political community on july 5, and now all nato member states must ratif

orban comes to the cpac and says i'm against race mixing.s playing in one of the support households as he's speaking to the conservative movement? something i suspect is causing some discomfort in at least one household. >> all right. former defense secretary, thanks for your time. appreciate it. >>> coming up, it's so hot in certain parts of the united states right now, there are concerns about ups drivers being stuck in their trucks with no air conditioners. we'll talk about that next with bill weir. ♪ ♪ we believe there's an innovator in all of us. that's why we build technology that helps everyone come to the table and do more incredible things. ♪ ♪ yes, i'm a believer. always have been, and i tell my granddaughters, take care of yourselves you never know. but it takes all sorts to make a world. and it's not my place to tell a women if she can have an abortion or not. that is a decision between her, her doctor, and god. and that is why i am voting for democrats. ff pac is responsible for the content of this ad ♪ ♪ wow, we're crunching to

of hungary victor or von -- orban. ♪ [applause] >> thank you, everybody.t is great to be with you. it is fantastic to be here in texas, the lone star state of the great united states of america. if i am correct, lone star state means that independence, freedom and sovereignty are the dearest values into this part of america. if this is true, and it must be true as i look around, then we have something in common even in hungary, 500 -- 5000 miles from dallas. hungary is the lone star state of europe. [applause] the main difference between our countries is that unfortunately, the company is not paying corporate -- independence, freedom and sovereignty must be hungarians -- in the last hundred years. we vote for christianity in the middle and modern ages and the vote for christian democracy, and continue to fight to this day. we are a nation of 15 million and the hearts of europe with a unique language. someone once told me hungary was the official language and heaven because it takes an eternity to learn. just a slight exaggeration. that is probably enough t

that's what victor orban aligns with. that's the team that he's on, and so it has profound implications because it's not just tearing down democracy. it's tearing down the entire system that emanates from american democracy of rules and norms and international order. it's saying we're going to junk all of that system and we're going to go all of the way back to the preworld war days where you just had big ethno nationalist powers who duked it out and that's what we're seeing in ukraine and that's the actualization of that vision. we know where european blood and soil fascism leads. it leads to the subjugation of minorities with the country and the stakes are high and we have to defend -- to a global defense of democracy that is under assault right now. >> ben, thank you for that clarifying moment. i want to thank all of you for the clarification that you've brought to our conversation. ben rhodes, isaac onstaff and shermichael singleton. thank you very much for starting us off. >> when we come back, an update to the janua

are i from chatham house about the similarities between orban and trump. >> i think they both draw on a similar playbook. you're pro autocrats friendly to russia, pushing back on -- against liberal values. a very similar playbook. but again, the very big distinction is the system in which they operate. in hungary viktor orban has very successfully managed to dismantle democracy, to create electoral rules that have made it possible for him to change the constitution, to control the media, undermine judicial independence, all things that donald trump has tried to do. but he faces a very different system, a very different level of mobilization across society. and a set of norms that are far more embedded. so that i think is what we have to hope for. but they are very similar as individuals. >> you can see the rest of that interview in the next hour of "cnn newsroom." >>> beijing and washington exchange angry words in the wake of u.s. house speaker's trip to taiwan. and over the last few days china's put on a massive show of strength around the self-governing island. we'll have that story

viktor orban is the head of a country that's been making a steady incremental step toa thor tearyismver the last decade or so. his government has managed to assail the rights of the lgbtq community, women, academic, the media. human rights watch has laid oall of this out in a 2021 report. and the media that he's talking about, the vast, vast majority of it in hungary is controlled by orban or his allies. so the electoral system even, laura, is bent and has been rewritten in order to favor the ruling class. if this sort of system does not sound like any sort of democracy that the founders of america wanted for this country, yet this is who cpac invited to speak on the stage, and this is a stage where 30 members of congress are going to be speaking on, the same stage as the leader of hungary. >> and this was a place he was warmly received. kyung lah, thank you so much for your reporting. >>> coming up, major developments in the police killing of breonna taylor, the fed take action in a case that includes allegations of a cover up. but why did it take so long for prosecutors to even rea

orban stressed that the west cannot win this confrontation in the united states with this opinion.disagree. there, the expert community calls on the white house to transfer additional long-range weapons to kiev. rather. long-range missiles are just, matvey popov read the press. the administration of the white house proposes to immediately supply kiev with such shells, the army tactical missile system is better known as atakams with a range of up to 300 km, these missiles can be launched from haimar installations, with which ukraine already has it is these missiles that the states must urgently give back to the all-russian forces, it is these missiles that are said in an open letter from american experts to baidun, which was published by the hill publication. they write that us interests are at stake. and for this, they are just advised to send atacams to ukraine. it is especially emphasized that this complex can also hit the territory of crimea, what the white house will say to the letter is not clear. here , european countries began to curtail the supply of any weapons to kiev, as

control elections next go around, former president trump met with hungarian prime minister viktor orbans an autocrat and who has essentially been successful in consolidating power in hungary with only a third of the support of the public. and i've been talking to a lot of the scholars who are experts in authoritarian governments and they are very concerned by the fact that the american right with trump has been embracing orban and looking to the blueprint that he's used since 2010 to essentially consolidate power in hungary. >> to that point, cpac is a conservative political action committee, they brought us barry goldwater, ronald reagan, now viktor orban, mike lindell, steve ban non, election deniers, conspiracy theorists, liars. the question is how do you win the fight.non, election deniers conspiracy theorists, liars. the question is how do you win the fight. liz cheney may lose her primary on august 16. her father who represents the conservative republican party spoke at cpac itself, this is part of the fight. >> our nation's 246 year history, there has never been an individual who

we love hungary, orban also doesn’t go into his pocket for a word calling.

>> they like viktor orban because he has got a lot of trumpy features.ator, he doesn't believe in democracy. you know, he's kept his job for a long, long time. and i think he is a model for a lot of these republicans. but they also have nigel farage who is the father of brexit, which was another very self defeating nationalistic cause. which is ultimately really given the british economy a lot of economic problems. they basically sanction themselves. so i do think that these kinds of nationalist movements are part of the whole trump manifesto. and the idea here is to get the base excited. and to really push the sort of new ideas and new culture war tropes. >> david, nbc asked cpac attendees about their pick for president in 2024. i want to take a listen to what they said. >> trump all the way. yeah. you know, i don't think anybody can pull it away like he can. >> -- >> exactly not pence. >> if donald trump don't win, i'm gonna pray that god will just end it. i am very adamant about that. >> listen, whenever we get sound like this, i want to be clear, thi

this problem is solvable, at least from the point of view of the hungarian prime minister, viktor orban last week made the statement that as a result of the current crisis in europe, the strong, perhaps even will not remain after the end of the war in ukraine, the eu will be weaker than before the war. while other countries and regions will win, firstly, the west cannot win the war in ukraine by military means. secondly, the sanctions do not destabilized russia thirdly their damage to europe is huge fourthly measures, did not line up behind the usa and ukraine most of the world defiantly does not support them chinese indians brazilians, south africa arab world africa it is quite possible that this war will put an end to domination. the west, here, urban is clearly not tormented by any offended complexes and phantom pains associated with the lost values, which are already brown in the fields, urban is hungary and is not enough. and if, as now, there is not enough gas, it supplies overcontract, everything is in order not to him, but to chancellor schultz, business representatives write he

cannot be racist. >> i mean, as someone who went to hungary and dealt into these issues with viktor orban there at cpac? >> i think it's despicable. we went there because hungary is being talked about at cpac, he's being held up on the pedestal, you go to hungary, and you realize why, and what is happening in hungary is not reflective of the america i was promised in schools or any of the values that we have, and you hear about orban coming to america, he's not stopping in d.c., going to cpac, a week after talking about how we shouldn't mix races, like you said, and frankly, i keep waiting for that moment where the backbone in somebody on that party at cpac, if this is really where they are, discussing the forward progress of the conservative movement, why you would have that person be emblematic of that, and nobody stands up, in fact, it becomes, as you showed, it becomes a punch line, so frankly we went there to try to see where many in the gop want to head, and it's scary, and it's repressive, and it's taking those democratic norms and chipping away at them. >> i have one follow up to