marijuana that you don't -- that everything is touchable and everything will be restricted. , democrat orbate republican, they have debated rhetoric only because they don't -- >> thank you for your comment. >> this is -- this may have actually come up before but i just wanted to know, what is the data of who the e-cigarette users are? are they new users or people switching from cigarettes? is obviously irrelevant because the epa is betting there are more he -- more new users than those switching from tobacco. what does the data show on that? ,> >> i did present some data but overwhelmingly, current e-cigarette users are tobacco smokers. some are using both products which may be a transitional stage and many were smokers and have transitioned lately -- transitioned completely into e-cigarettes. you see very little use among non-smokers. overwhelmingly, people start with smoking and transition to e-cigarettes. >> high, i worked with penney associates on their noncombustible products. i think there are a lot of misconceptions about what changes to the predicate date would mean and i don't think