whi we recognize the importance of not just cases which continuech to result in substantial orco high community transmission and over 90%mm seven percent of our counties in the country. but critically, medicallyri severe disease. >> joining me now is dr. marty makary, professor at johns hopkins school of medicine, author of price we pay the price we pay dr. macquarrie. now it seems like a fairs a fa questionir to ask at this point. why would anyone listen to the cdc c? aw well, some of the most flawedho and misleading studies of the entire pandemic have come s from our own cdc. the two studies on natural immunity which went against i one hundred and fifty other studies showing that it's s effective the maricopa based study, the kansas math study, all t of these studies would not have passed any muster in a respected medical journal. but the cdc has its own journal called memoires, which is notje subject to independent peer review. so what they do is they hoard hs the data. they don't release the underlying raw data to researchers around the countryow and in their own timen they publis