ordination england. cambridge university the u.k., ph.d. divinity. bar college new york, professord currently. institute of director, ten years and currently. church of st. john the evangelist. 18 years and currently. author over 30 wook including the acclaimed rabbi jesus and rabbi paul and the brand new mary magdalene, a biography. hobby. squash, astronee, theater. the reverend dr. bruce david chillson. >> reverend dr. chilton, this is your portrait here that you have chosen for the cover of your book. >>> you have the woman as described in had conversation between us. there is also this picture of st. mary magdalene by the artist 1533 in venice. that i believe is described in your book as the portrait in which mary wipes the feet of jesus -- wipes the body of jesus or was it the feet at the tomb? was it when he was living or dead? >> when he was alive, wiped the feet of jesus. >> she anointed him. tell us about that? >> there are two scene in the gospels in which this physical contact with jesus is described. one is with a sinful woman, not mary,

ordination england. cambridge university the u.k., ph.d. divinity. bar college new york, professord currently. institute of director, ten years and currently. church of st. john the evangelist. 18 years and currently. author over 30 wook including the acclaimed rabbi jesus and rabbi paul and the brand new mary magdalene, a biography. hobby. squash, astronee, theater. the reverend dr. bruce david chillson. >> reverend dr. chilton, this is your portrait here that you have chosen for the cover of your book. >>> you have the woman as described in had conversation between us. there is also this picture of st. mary magdalene by the artist 1533 in venice. that i believe is described in your book as the portrait in which mary wipes the feet of jesus -- wipes the body of jesus or was it the feet at the tomb? was it when he was living or dead? >> when he was alive, wiped the feet of jesus. >> she anointed him. tell us about that? >> there are two scene in the gospels in which this physical contact with jesus is described. one is with a sinful woman, not mary,