even according to our oregon education association we spend $500 million educating the children of illegals in oregon. it is costing us so much money and our politicians refuse to address the problem. it is -- really makes you angry. >> host: thank you. >> guest: thank you for your question. you have a different point and i would like to break them down a little bit. you are talking about portland, oregon which is several hundred thousand miles away from the border. one of the things i mentioned earlier was we are strong on the border but once the immigrants make it into the united states there's hardly any enforcement. that is a tremendous concern. the second thing, you were concerned about the benefit or expenditures to the u.s. taxpayer of illegal immigration. there is no doubt there's a tremendous loss but there's a balance also when you said 50% of the hispanics in your area if i understood that correctly might be illegal in this country. that means a great number are working. they might be paying taxes under somebody else's name so there are contributions that going to the community b