several oregonians are very involved in tech issues. you, senator, former senator smith is head of the national association of broadcasters, greg wall den on the house side is a republican from oregon. >> guest: we're freedom folks. we like the first amendment, we like to be able to communicate, we like to debate, and we're pretty egalitarian. we like everybody to be a shot, not just the moneyed interests, and that's what the internet represents. of course, congressman walden had a small radio station for quite some time, senator smith's representing the broadcast. i can tell you what happened in my case is when i became oregon's first united states senator, i said, look, i'm going to do everything i can for our traditional kind of industries. but i said in addition to that i'm going to try to find some new opportunities for us to really lead and innovate. and it always kept coming back to technology. for example, i'm now the chairman of senate finance committee on international trade. i think the internet is the shipping lane of the 21