pay the bookstores back and both of them have done so in an incredibly generous way. >> host: oren teicherhas been the ceo of the american booksellers association since 2009. in 2013, mr. teicher in the aba board virtuousness publisher weekly's person of the year for their role in leading the resurgence of an append a bookselling. who serves on the board, mr. teicher? >> guest: we have 10 practicing booksellers who are from 10 stores all over the country. there are large stores, small stores, all different. they are an extraordinary group of volunteers who spend an enormous amount of time working on helping us frame the policies and programs of our association. aba has been really fortunate over the years to have had a long line of really active, affect good, hard-working board members who really wrote their sleeves and help make our association at her. we are a trade association and at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is what is that we can do to help make our stores more profitable, more successful. our board helps us do that. we have a staff of about 30 folks in our offic