this is their burden or two it's the obligation of women instead of the employers obligation for more transparency you represent organization of women business leaders how do they see this topic as women who are at the top and trying to maybe encourage other women to come up there do they see these problems all the more clearly or differently as business leaders of course first of all they are employers so they are women but they also employers and what they need is there they need to like a freedom in action so they have for example a couple of years ago you paid much less for an for an i.t. person comparison to do that today so and need to be able to pay. more fun i t. person today than five years ago and maybe and will area compared to an area so i think we need a very liberal labor market and not more appear a bureaucracy and that was claudia gross a leader from the managing director of the german women's entrepreneur société thank you so much for joining us. a champion worth a million bucks in fact a bit more than that belgian racing pigeon armando was auctioned this past weekend for an absolute world record amounts of one and a quarter