we have jeremy keenan he is the author of the upcoming book dying for change as well as a professor oriel research associate at the school of oriental and african studies at the university of london and in seattle we cross to illinois mercer she is a paleo libertarian writer and journalist all right folks cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and if i go to you first in seattle you got up early as for this program i've been all watching a lot of the coverage of the death and the funeral and the coverage of the passage of this really truly great man and it's basically two words he's an inspiration and he was a figure of reconciliation is that enough for you. no i'm also the author of a book called into the cannibals past lessons for america from post apartheid south africa and that is definitely not a hey geographic account of many nelson mandela i will leave it to your other guests to provide the oh yes and the geographic. biographical details of a very genial and impressive man but certainly he's political legacies not exactly impressive people often say

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brazilians like to point out the border on france through french equity oriel guinea. it is a complicated diplomatic dance and it is made more complicated by american relationships and the trade challenges brazil faces with argentina because they tend to overload circuits in their relationship, in the structures that they have. the brazilians work very hard at this but in many ways -- the efforts to fashion regional integration units from our point of view are positive weather is it is in the sewer or in central america or the caribbean community, these are all efforts that facilitate dialogue and exchanges for the well-being of the subregions and the broader hemispheric. actually the biggest impediment to a brazil that dominates south america is largely its inability to open its markets. of brazil could open its markets the andean countries never would have done free trade agreements with the united states or at least not with the speed they did them. they would have done agreements with brazil. and when the mexicans realized they were organized out of latin america a