so what do you think orisk is there and are you going to talk to him directly about some of those comments? >> well, on the latter point, as i said before, the transition from election season to governance season is not always smooth. it's bumpy. there's still feelings that are raw out there. the people who are still thinking about how things unfolded, and i get all that. but when donald trump takes the oath of office and is sworn in as the 5 them president of the united states, he has different considerations and responsibilities. there's a sobering process when you bach into the oval office, and i haven't shared previously private conversations i've had with the president-elect. i will say they have been cordal and in some cases have involved me making some pretty specific suggestions about how to ensure that regardless of our obvious deep disagreements about policy, maybe i can transmit some thoughts about maintaining the effectiveness integrity, cohesion of the office, of various democratic institutions, and he's -- he has listened. i can't say that he will end up implementing, but the