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david ornstein for us there in wembley. the olympic champion, mo farah, is now sir mo after receiving his knighthood from the queen at buckingham palace today. sir mohamed farah, for services to athletics. sir mo came to the uk from somalia as a young boy and went on to become britain's most decorated athlete. this summer, he retired from his track career to concentrate on running marathons. he described the knighthood today as a "dream come true." newsnight is coming up on bbc two, here's evan davies. something funny is going on in zimbabwe right now, an apparent struggle to succeed president mugabe, who's the world's oldest head of state. for a moment, it seemed like a coup was under way today. we're trying to work out what's going on. join me now on bbc two. that's newsnight with evan. here on bbc one, it's time for the news where you are. have a good night. hello and welcome to sportsday i'm jessica creighton. here's what's coming up in the programme. ireland's world cup dream is over, thrashed by a dazzling denmark in
david ornstein for us there in wembley. the olympic champion, mo farah, is now sir mo after receiving his knighthood from the queen at buckingham palace today. sir mohamed farah, for services to athletics. sir mo came to the uk from somalia as a young boy and went on to become britain's most decorated athlete. this summer, he retired from his track career to concentrate on running marathons. he described the knighthood today as a "dream come true." newsnight is coming up on bbc two,...
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david ornstein there.rom the fa, for an apparent kick at brighton defender gayton bong. the alleged incident wasn't seen by the referee at the time but retrospective action could have meant the striker was banned for three games. a panel of three former premier league referees failed to all agree it was deemed worthy of a red card. there was a dramatic end to the west london derby in the championship — qpr scored two goals in injury time to draw with brentford. danish striker lasse vee—ber had scored twice in the second half danish striker lasse vibe had scored twice in the second half which meant brentford, the visitors, looked set to claim all three points. many of qpr's fans had already left when matt smith grabbed a goal back — in the third of four minutes of injury time. qpr still looked like heading for their fourth defeat in a row until luke freeman popped up in the six—yard box in the very last minute — 2—2 it finished. world champion bianca walkden and olympic champion jade jones admit they are ‘s
david ornstein there.rom the fa, for an apparent kick at brighton defender gayton bong. the alleged incident wasn't seen by the referee at the time but retrospective action could have meant the striker was banned for three games. a panel of three former premier league referees failed to all agree it was deemed worthy of a red card. there was a dramatic end to the west london derby in the championship — qpr scored two goals in injury time to draw with brentford. danish striker lasse vee—ber...
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and of the book by my friend norm ornstein is about erectile dysfunction and major flaws in governance in our government that have been worsening for three decades. and yet both the books have a lot of income. for example, they both have incredibly bland, noncontroversial titles this one by professor sheryll cashin is loving, interracial intimacy in american the threat to white supremacy. okay. that's very bland. and then this one is really does not choose sides and is very sort of day right down the road "one nation after trump: a guide for the perplexed, the disillusioned, the desperate, and the not-yet deported." [laughing] >> supplicate both bland titles. both are compelling, incredibly readable, captivating stories about their political history is really with analysis of how our nation chewable, the constitution in practice works, how our laws are written, how they are implemented by the executive branch, how they are interpreted by the judicial branch, and how they are changed. and then finally, both books are very much focused on the meaning and the power of we the people, the f
and of the book by my friend norm ornstein is about erectile dysfunction and major flaws in governance in our government that have been worsening for three decades. and yet both the books have a lot of income. for example, they both have incredibly bland, noncontroversial titles this one by professor sheryll cashin is loving, interracial intimacy in american the threat to white supremacy. okay. that's very bland. and then this one is really does not choose sides and is very sort of day right...
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our correspondent david ornstein is at wembley for us.dering the number of rookies this wasn‘t a bad result? that‘s right. germany weren‘t at their best, but take nothing away from england, this was a positive night and the manager gareth southgate will be pleased. the most impressive performance was perhaps ofjordan pickford in goal, coming infor ofjordan pickford in goal, coming in for the previous goalie who broke a finger. he had a number of swine says that would have given southgate selections headache heading into the world cup. —— fine saves. after the brazil friendly they have two more matches before that squad is announced. those matches are both in march. the midfield was steady. the chelsea midfielder is currently on loa n chelsea midfielder is currently on loan at crystal palace. upfront tammy abraham, just 20 and also on loa n tammy abraham, just 20 and also on loan from chelsea, he had a glorious opportunity to put england ahead in the first half. that was deflected wide, but i think for a first performance at senior level h
our correspondent david ornstein is at wembley for us.dering the number of rookies this wasn‘t a bad result? that‘s right. germany weren‘t at their best, but take nothing away from england, this was a positive night and the manager gareth southgate will be pleased. the most impressive performance was perhaps ofjordan pickford in goal, coming infor ofjordan pickford in goal, coming in for the previous goalie who broke a finger. he had a number of swine says that would have given southgate...
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our sports correspondent david ornstein was at wembley. anticipated. however, for both england and brazil, they will be able to take 20 away from it as they build—up for the world cup in russia next summer. england are a young and inexperienced squad. they have now had held the world champions, germany, and the five—time world cup winners brazil two goalless draws in a matter of days. for brazil this was their first real test on european soil since their qualification for the world cup. they have really been resurgent under their new manager, qualifying for the world cup in style. but dig tests await. we saw the likes of neymar tonight, jesus, and coutinho playing together, and they will go to the world cup is favourite so they will want to step up their preparations in the 2018. what a night for manchester united striker romelu lu ka ku. he became belgium's all—time top—scorer, on 31, after scoring the winner in his side's1—0 victory overjapan in in bruges on tuesday. russia held spain to a 3—3 draw in a pulsating friendly in st petersbur
our sports correspondent david ornstein was at wembley. anticipated. however, for both england and brazil, they will be able to take 20 away from it as they build—up for the world cup in russia next summer. england are a young and inexperienced squad. they have now had held the world champions, germany, and the five—time world cup winners brazil two goalless draws in a matter of days. for brazil this was their first real test on european soil since their qualification for the world cup....
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david ornstein has been looking back on her career.t remains one of wimbledon‘s most enduring images. jana novotna might have lost the 1993 final to steffi g raf have lost the 1993 final to steffi graf but she won the shoulder to cry from the duchess of kent and the hearts of the british public. she just told me, you will do it. i believe one day you will do it. and ijust became believe one day you will do it. and i just became very believe one day you will do it. and ijust became very emotional. it was very nice and i appreciated very much what she said. she finished runner—up again in 1997. one year later, she finally killed the trophy. she was such a warm person, always very, very friendly off the court. the first person to come up and smile and give you a couple of kisses, and really, really loved by everyone. she rose to prominence in the early 19905 she rose to prominence in the early 1990s and became one of the most exciting players for germination. wimbledon was her only grand slam singles title. she collected 16 in doubles and
david ornstein has been looking back on her career.t remains one of wimbledon‘s most enduring images. jana novotna might have lost the 1993 final to steffi g raf have lost the 1993 final to steffi graf but she won the shoulder to cry from the duchess of kent and the hearts of the british public. she just told me, you will do it. i believe one day you will do it. and ijust became believe one day you will do it. and i just became very believe one day you will do it. and ijust became very...
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joining us now david leonhardt and norm ornstein, congressional scholar with the american enterprise institute. he is the co-author of the book "one nation after trump." whenever i introduce you i fear you might be the last congressional scholar because who would find scholarship in the pursuits of congress these days. but what we saw today with that tweet, when i saw it, i was hoping for at least this first round outcome that we got which was chuck schumer and nancy pelosi saying this person is impossible. we cannot deal with him and we are not going to go up there. i hope they set a condition of retraction of the statements in order to deal with him in the future. but that's going to be up to them. and if 11-day window will close quickly on funding this government. what do you see happening, norm? >> you know, lawrence, last time i was on, we talked about trump and how he hadn't even read "the art of the deal" much less written it. and this just proves it again. i think pelosi and reed have the upper hand here. republicans control the house, the senate and the white house. keeping
joining us now david leonhardt and norm ornstein, congressional scholar with the american enterprise institute. he is the co-author of the book "one nation after trump." whenever i introduce you i fear you might be the last congressional scholar because who would find scholarship in the pursuits of congress these days. but what we saw today with that tweet, when i saw it, i was hoping for at least this first round outcome that we got which was chuck schumer and nancy pelosi saying...
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he's been speaking to david ornstein about his new venture.british athletes of the modem or perhaps any reader. how are you doing? how are things? and speaking for the time about his career off the court, andy murray told the court, andy murray told me the nation ‘s future sports stars. i do want to work with the best and the best british athletes, whether that is male or female, and try to help some go through that transition phase from going tojuniors through that transition phase from going to juniors into through that transition phase from going tojuniors into the through that transition phase from going to juniors into the senior ra nks going to juniors into the senior ranks and maybe help mentor some of those points along the way. among the first tojoin those points along the way. among the first to join him at his management company are twin sisters. the 20—year—old sprinters with the next olympics in their sights. even though he is in a different sport to us, i feel that the attributes and qualities you need to have at the top of your
he's been speaking to david ornstein about his new venture.british athletes of the modem or perhaps any reader. how are you doing? how are things? and speaking for the time about his career off the court, andy murray told the court, andy murray told me the nation ‘s future sports stars. i do want to work with the best and the best british athletes, whether that is male or female, and try to help some go through that transition phase from going tojuniors through that transition phase from...
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dionne and norm ornstein. >> desjardins: let me start with you, norm, then.lace where we have so many disillusioned americans who voted for and against trump and so much divide? >> so, the first third of the books really, is about how we got to this place and about how donald trump was not really someone who emerged from the swamp on his own. there were decades that built towards the trumpism that led to all of this. some of it goes back to the decline of community, something robert putnam wrote about eloquently in the book "bowling alone." people clustering together surrounded by like-minded individuals creating greater divides for example between the metropolitan areas that thrive with highly educated people and the rural areas that have fallen behind athand people have grown disillusioned and we've seen all kinds of bad behavior that results. we have the political tribalism that emerged in the '70s with newt gingrich and on through where people saw the other side as the enemy and not the adversaries and all of that, then, topped by the populism that emerge
dionne and norm ornstein. >> desjardins: let me start with you, norm, then.lace where we have so many disillusioned americans who voted for and against trump and so much divide? >> so, the first third of the books really, is about how we got to this place and about how donald trump was not really someone who emerged from the swamp on his own. there were decades that built towards the trumpism that led to all of this. some of it goes back to the decline of community, something robert...
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david ornstein has been looking back at her life. 1993, and on the verge of winning wimbledon, jana novotnabut won the hearts of the british public. and in the duchess of kent, she found a shoulder to cry on. she just told me, jana, you will do it. i believe one day you will do its. i just became very emotional and it was very nice, i appreciate very much what she has done. and her perseverance finally paid off the following year. a popular victory and uphiller champion. she was such and uphiller champion. she was such a warm person, always very, very friendly off the first person to come up and smile and give you a couple of kisses, and really, really loved by everyone. despite her many achievements, novotna will always be remembered for wimbledon, the tears, the triumph and eventually, the smile. commentator: that smile will remain on her face for the rest of the afternoon. jana novotna who has died at the age of 49. our top story this evening: theresa may meets senior cabinet ministers in downing street to discuss the size of the brexit bill. and still to come... what happened to britain
david ornstein has been looking back at her life. 1993, and on the verge of winning wimbledon, jana novotnabut won the hearts of the british public. and in the duchess of kent, she found a shoulder to cry on. she just told me, jana, you will do it. i believe one day you will do its. i just became very emotional and it was very nice, i appreciate very much what she has done. and her perseverance finally paid off the following year. a popular victory and uphiller champion. she was such and...
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here's our sports correspondent david ornstein.for a side including part—timers, builders and electricians among them. the early graft was done by england. watkins scores the opening try. beaten by australia in the opening game, this seemed a more straight forward task. lebanon though were quick to respond and when they levelled the cars —— scores we had a contest. england took control, but did one player lose his? he is accused of biting. there fs no question about england's next try. burgess with a magnificent solo effort. big brother sam loves the moment. to put his country on course for the quarter—finals. the moment. to put his country on course for the quarter-finals. also hoping to be there are scotland, however in their path today stood the might of new zealand and the kiwis lived up to expectation, crossing 1a times in a crushing win. scotland's only source of consolation was provided by thomas and despite conceding 124 points in two games, they could still qualify for the last eight with victory over samoa next saturday.
here's our sports correspondent david ornstein.for a side including part—timers, builders and electricians among them. the early graft was done by england. watkins scores the opening try. beaten by australia in the opening game, this seemed a more straight forward task. lebanon though were quick to respond and when they levelled the cars —— scores we had a contest. england took control, but did one player lose his? he is accused of biting. there fs no question about england's next try....
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david ornstein reports.ar ago england displayed the poppy and were punished. the governing body fifa deeming it a political symbol. since then, the rules have been relaxed. football now free to pay its respects. decked in blue and depleted by injuries, england looked unfamiliar. germany less so. already denied by the woodwork, the world champions were then kept at bay byjordan pickford, one of five debutants for the youthful hosts. another was 20—year—old tammy abraham, so close to making an immediate impact. england were now in the contest and jamie vardy almost put them in front. captain for the night eric dier lead by example, no gold but plenty of cause for optimism, which can't often be said about england at senior level. they nearly won it with the last kick, what a boost it would have been for gareth southgate and his promising team. a positive night for england. they'll be back here on tuesday to meet the mighty brazil, then only two games, both in march, before they name their squad for the world cu
david ornstein reports.ar ago england displayed the poppy and were punished. the governing body fifa deeming it a political symbol. since then, the rules have been relaxed. football now free to pay its respects. decked in blue and depleted by injuries, england looked unfamiliar. germany less so. already denied by the woodwork, the world champions were then kept at bay byjordan pickford, one of five debutants for the youthful hosts. another was 20—year—old tammy abraham, so close to making...
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our sports correspondent david ornstein looks back at her life.g images. jana novotna may have lost the final at she got a shoulder to cry on from the duchess of kent and the hearts of the british public. shejust told me, you will do it. i believe one day you will do it. i believe one day you will do it. i believe one day you will do it. and ijust became very emotional. it was very nice. i appreciated it. novotna finished runner—up again but a year later she finally won the trophy. news of her death has been met with a mixture of shock and an outpouring of tributes. ican shock and an outpouring of tributes. i can only describe her as a ruthless competitor on the court but utterly sweet and charming of it. she was such a warm person, always very friendly. she would come up and give you kisses and smile, she was really loved by everyone. she rose to prominence in the early 90s and went on to become one of the most exciting, popular and successful players of regeneration. wimbledon was her only grand slam singles title but she collected 16 in doubles
our sports correspondent david ornstein looks back at her life.g images. jana novotna may have lost the final at she got a shoulder to cry on from the duchess of kent and the hearts of the british public. shejust told me, you will do it. i believe one day you will do it. i believe one day you will do it. i believe one day you will do it. and ijust became very emotional. it was very nice. i appreciated it. novotna finished runner—up again but a year later she finally won the trophy. news of...
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david ornstein rounds up the action. serenading the start of a unique event.pport for a side that includes part—timers, builders and electricians. the early graft was done by england. watkins who scores the opening try. beaten by australia in their opening game, this a more straight forward task. lebanon though would have something to say about that and when they levelled the scores we had a contest. england took control, yet their path was not smooth. after half time, one player was accused of biting and he will face a review. there was no question about england's next try. burgess with a magnificent solo effort. burgess down the middle. they had even brought an injured sibling in the stands to his feet and put the country on the course for the quarter—finals. hoping to be there are scotland, although facing new zealand is always daunting, a memorable draw with them last year gave cause for optimism. but that quickly dissolved, this the first of 14 quickly dissolved, this the first of 1a times their line would be crossed ona 1a times their line would be cross
david ornstein rounds up the action. serenading the start of a unique event.pport for a side that includes part—timers, builders and electricians. the early graft was done by england. watkins who scores the opening try. beaten by australia in their opening game, this a more straight forward task. lebanon though would have something to say about that and when they levelled the scores we had a contest. england took control, yet their path was not smooth. after half time, one player was accused...
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david ornstein is at wembley for us. more than just the result. yes, a year ago england faced scotla nd yes, a year ago england faced scotland in a world cup qualifier. both displayed poppies on an armband as an act of remembrance. and both, along with the other home nations, we re along with the other home nations, were fined by fifa. they dean pees to be political symbols. that rule has now been relaxed and tonight england will be able to wear and display the poppy on the armband and germany have decided to join them. normally rivals divided tonight, united. also video assisted, video technology will be used in a uk match, an official uk match for the first time. it is being trialled around the world, places like germany, italy and the united states. controversial in some, more successful in others. potentially coming infor successful in others. potentially coming in for the world cup next summerand it is coming in for the world cup next summer and it is looking at issues like goals and penalty decisions, red cards and
david ornstein is at wembley for us. more than just the result. yes, a year ago england faced scotla nd yes, a year ago england faced scotland in a world cup qualifier. both displayed poppies on an armband as an act of remembrance. and both, along with the other home nations, we re along with the other home nations, were fined by fifa. they dean pees to be political symbols. that rule has now been relaxed and tonight england will be able to wear and display the poppy on the armband and germany...
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i also listened last night to norm ornstein.i think i was watching a rerun of norm ornstein last evening, and both of them have comparable messages, which is we have to get past the situation we're in right now. i have been suggesting although probably ineffectually for some time that what we need to pay more attention to is independent voters, voters who in some cases have the right to vote in primaries in their state and can perhaps move their state away from the extremes, especially the extremes on the right. and in some cases independent voters who are stubbornly saying, depending on the laws in their own states, who are stubbornly saying i do want to join any party because they are all awful, and yet they disenfranchise themselves. it is those for in that independent middle, and not all in the middle also one must be aware, but it is the voters who may be the key to turning some of these things around. my philosophy is that if you want to change the system you have to start with following the rules of assisting you. that's
i also listened last night to norm ornstein.i think i was watching a rerun of norm ornstein last evening, and both of them have comparable messages, which is we have to get past the situation we're in right now. i have been suggesting although probably ineffectually for some time that what we need to pay more attention to is independent voters, voters who in some cases have the right to vote in primaries in their state and can perhaps move their state away from the extremes, especially the...
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ornstein. and norman ornstein will be signing his book on this floor on the other side of the elevators. so please make your way there if you'd like to have your book autographed. thank you. [inaudible conversations] please help us by leaving the room as quickly as possible if you're not remaining for the next program. thank you. [inaudible conversations] >> and you're watching booktv on c-span2, live coverage of the miami book fair for the 20th year in a row, we are in miami. it's held on the campus of miami-dade college in the downtown area. we've got a booktv set here as swell as the c-span bus. and if you're in the area, come on down and pick up a book bag from the bus, and you can take a tour as well. in about 15 minutes, walter isakson will be speaking about his new book on leonardo da vinci. joining us now on the booktv set in the center of the festival is journalist and author helen thorpe. her newest book just out is called "the newcomers: finding refuge, friendship and hope in an amer
ornstein. and norman ornstein will be signing his book on this floor on the other side of the elevators. so please make your way there if you'd like to have your book autographed. thank you. [inaudible conversations] please help us by leaving the room as quickly as possible if you're not remaining for the next program. thank you. [inaudible conversations] >> and you're watching booktv on c-span2, live coverage of the miami book fair for the 20th year in a row, we are in miami. it's held...
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our sports correspondent david ornstein looks back at her life. from the duchess of kent and the hearts of the british public. shejust told me, you will do it. i believe one day you will do it. and ijust became very emotional. it was very nice. i appreciated it. novotna finished runner—up again in 1997, but a year later she finally won the trophy. news of her death has been met with a mixture of shock and an outpouring of tributes. i can only describe her as a ruthless competitor on the court but utterly sweet and charming off it. she was such a warm person, always very friendly. she would come up and give you kisses and smiles, she was really loved by everyone. she rose to prominence in the early 90s and went on to become one of the most exciting, popular and successful players of regeneration. players of her generation. wimbledon was her only grand slam singles title but she collected 16 in doubles and 100 tournament wins across a glittering career, laying her way into the international tennis hall of fame. she was back on the lawns of wimbledon
our sports correspondent david ornstein looks back at her life. from the duchess of kent and the hearts of the british public. shejust told me, you will do it. i believe one day you will do it. and ijust became very emotional. it was very nice. i appreciated it. novotna finished runner—up again in 1997, but a year later she finally won the trophy. news of her death has been met with a mixture of shock and an outpouring of tributes. i can only describe her as a ruthless competitor on the court...
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our sports correspondent david ornstein looks back at her life.t she won a shoulder to cry on from the duchess of kent and the hearts of the british public. shejust told me, jana, you will do it. i believe one day you will do it. and ijust became very emotional. it was very nice. i appreciated it, what she said. novotna finished runner—up again in 1997, but a year later she finally won the trophy. news of her death has been met with a mixture of shock and an outpouring of tributes. i can only describe her as a ruthless competitor on the court but utterly sweet and charming off it. she was such a warm person. always very friendly. she would come up and smile and give you a couple kisses. she was really loved by everyone. she right—hander rose to prominence in the early ‘90s and went on to become one of the most exciting, popular and successful players of her generation. she was back on the lawns of wimbledon as recently as 2016, rolling back the years in the invitational mixed doubles. but novotna will always be remembered for the tears and then th
our sports correspondent david ornstein looks back at her life.t she won a shoulder to cry on from the duchess of kent and the hearts of the british public. shejust told me, jana, you will do it. i believe one day you will do it. and ijust became very emotional. it was very nice. i appreciated it, what she said. novotna finished runner—up again in 1997, but a year later she finally won the trophy. news of her death has been met with a mixture of shock and an outpouring of tributes. i can only...
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david ornstein looks back on her career. 1993, and on the verge of winning wimbledon, jana novotna crumbled of the british public. and in the duchess of kent, she found a shoulder to cry on. shejust told me, jana, you will do it. i believe one day you will do it. ijust became very emotional and it was very nice, i appreciated very much what she said. runnerup again in1997, novotna's perseverance finally paid off the following year. she's done it! a popular victory a popular champion. she was such a warm person, always very, very friendly off the court. the first person to come up and smile and give you a couple of kisses, and really, really loved by everyone. despite her many achievements, novotna will always be remembered for wimbledon, the tears, the triumph and eventually, the smile. commentator: that smile will remain on her face for the rest of the afternoon. david haye's heavyweight rematch with fellow britain tony bellew in london next month has been postponed. he sufffered an arm injury in training, and has undergone a procedure to repair it. the wbc cruiserweight world champion bel
david ornstein looks back on her career. 1993, and on the verge of winning wimbledon, jana novotna crumbled of the british public. and in the duchess of kent, she found a shoulder to cry on. shejust told me, jana, you will do it. i believe one day you will do it. ijust became very emotional and it was very nice, i appreciated very much what she said. runnerup again in1997, novotna's perseverance finally paid off the following year. she's done it! a popular victory a popular champion. she was...
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we are to go back into the hall where authors are speaking coming up next is norm ornstein. he's talking about his book one nation after trump. we will be live all day long. we have colin's coming up with chris matthews and katie turner and you will hear from walter isaacson on leonardo da vinci a little bit later in the day. book tvs live coverage continues. [indiscernible] [indiscernible] [indiscernible] [indiscernible] [inaudible conversations] [indiscernible] [inaudible conversations] you are watching book tv on c-span two. the next event has not yet happened here. one nation after trump is the name of his book. even see him chatting with some folks know this is a 20th year the 20th year in a row that we have the after we hear this next author presentation we will hear from walter isaacson's. there can be in chapman hall. of ms nbc. the gold start father will also be speaking in the home. and chris matthews will both be doing call ins. we hope you do too. mitch kaplan. what is your reading. we want to hear from you. it's always been a lot of fun. that will be happening t
we are to go back into the hall where authors are speaking coming up next is norm ornstein. he's talking about his book one nation after trump. we will be live all day long. we have colin's coming up with chris matthews and katie turner and you will hear from walter isaacson on leonardo da vinci a little bit later in the day. book tvs live coverage continues. [indiscernible] [indiscernible] [indiscernible] [indiscernible] [inaudible conversations] [indiscernible] [inaudible conversations] you...
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the ceo leaves the cfo, jeff ornstein goes from being promoted to vice chairman to, oops, getting thrownyour new cfo came from one of your smallest units non-core. probably got her key to the ladies room at this point, and they're on the third quarter call saying i think we understand this kind of business no, they have to get their arms around things, and truthfully to really truly turn this company around operationally culturally it's going to take john flannery, if he does it right, five years i don't care what the slides say. it's going to take five years, and the best template they have is to take what dave cody did years ago when he went out to the honeywell which at the time was a burned out hulk and basically said let's stop screwing around. let's pretend that strategy is a constant thing let's not change how we present every six months it took about four to five years for it to really be credible with investors but it worked. there is a path to doing that, but it is not going to be a quick fix. >> you know, in the dark you really can't even -- with an elephant you don't know whe
the ceo leaves the cfo, jeff ornstein goes from being promoted to vice chairman to, oops, getting thrownyour new cfo came from one of your smallest units non-core. probably got her key to the ladies room at this point, and they're on the third quarter call saying i think we understand this kind of business no, they have to get their arms around things, and truthfully to really truly turn this company around operationally culturally it's going to take john flannery, if he does it right, five...