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orrin hatch wrote this when president obama nominated loretta lynch to be his next attorney general,cess, something that is technically hard to do in a post-election lame duck session. if senator hatch had been inclined to write a more honest version of that sentence he would have said that confirming loretta lynch is something technically easy to do in a post-election lame duck session. and what makes it so easy is that loretta lynch is already serving in a senate-confirmed post, which mean the onerous job of gathering all the paperwork of her leave and financial paperwork and all the other stuff that nominees have to present for confirmation has already been done. and the judiciary committee already has it. that is the single biggest time-consuming chore in the process. the documents for scrutiny only by the committee staff. the senators themselves almost never look at that stuff. there is absolutely no reasonable point in doing another fbi background check on loretta lynch, but the fbi has conducted many pointless back ground checks on nominees and will, of course waste their time

. >> finance committee is going to be huge because you're going to have orrin hatch, the new chairman, republican of utah, most senior republican in the senate, now the president pro tem, third in line to the presidency. the reason being is that the republicans have talked for years about trying to do entitlement reform, tax reform, paul ryan the ways and means committee in the house of representatives. if they don't get this done with the republican house and republican senate, then they're in trouble. the other thing with the finance committee is also dealing with obamacare. there are a lot of policy implications in the finance committee and that's going to fall in orrin hatch's wheelhouse. >> let's move on to one of the underrated but crucial committees, appropriations. >> yeah, approach operations is going to be big, too, because you heard senator roberts say why not just cut off all the money. that was the path that the republicans went a year ago and the government shut down again over obamacare. they wanted to pull the money from obamacare and that's going to fall within the ap

orrin hatch is a member of the subcommittee on immigration subcommittees.oining us, democratic congresswoman a former immigration attorney as well. to both of you, thanks very much for joining us. congresswoman, do you believe -- and you've been involved in this immigration battle for a long time -- the president went far enough? >> well, i think the president went as far as he thought he could do based on the legal advice that he received. as i'm sure you know, since really they've had the authority to take deferred action and many presidents have. reagan, the first bush kennedy, george w. bush and on and on. so the question is how far can that go? and although some of us have suggested he might go further, he is doing what his lawyers have suggested he can do and i respect that. >> all right. let me bring senator hatch into this conversation. you've been involved in this conversation for a long time. you were one of 14 republican senators who voted for that comprehensive immigration reform bill with lindsey graham and marco rubio and others as well. in th

you don't have to listen to orrin hatch for this. the president said he couldn't take this kind of action because he wasn't a dictator. you can't accept the president legislatively. we just sent the -- the american voters sent a message to the president, clearer than any midterm election in the history of the country. the message was stop. we want you to govern. we want washington to work. they gave republicans the senate, they increased the majority in the house because they want the government to work. why would the president do the one thing that the republican and democratic leadership told him would make immigration reform if not impossible, at least more difficult? the reason is. neil: voters, voters. >> the president does not want the issue to go away, democrats like the issue, they think it gets them votes. republicans want this issue solved, resolved. it takes legislation to do it, not executive fiat. and what the president did tonight could absolutely destroy all of that, and i hope the immigration community understands. ne

host: orrin hatch -- guest: he is a dealmaker. he famously cut deals with ted kennedy. orrin hatch is the quintessential senator -- he is a dealmaker, conservative, but he feels he is there to legislate. it is something he would like to do, but again, it is going to come down to whether or not the president is interested in this and that opens up space for 60 votes. democrats will need -- you will need to find six or seven democrats, maybe up to 10, depending on where the republicans are, to do bipartisan tax reform bills, and it seems that is how you will see tax reform, in the senate, it is bipartisan. jesup, georgia. democratic caller. caller: good morning. host: good morning. caller: let me get my thoughts -- i want my republican -- do what the republicans did, of struct, obstruct, of struct. this is mike much into you, mr. drucker. i have heard -- this is my question to you, mr. drucker. i have heard the republicans have sent bills and they will not come to the floor, but you have heard of the whip count. of the bills, how many were for abortion? 40-something for a

>> i think thee% leadership in the senate with orrin hatch and paul ryan ii the house, they can get a really good tax reform bill, make our tax ode more fair, simple, and competitive. neil: and one that the president would support? >> the president leads from behind even on legislative matters. if they can get that consense it will get done. trade there can be a consensus. 95 percent of our customers are outside of the united states if we can open up trade in eerope and asia, i think democrats and republicans can get together there. the republicans will pass the keystone pipeline. the president won't like it. they'll have to override his veto if he continues to stop -- neil: that's the only one, governor, and you're much mora tuned to these things than i am. but, as you know, i read a prompter for a living, i think that qualifies me. the president will move on keystone and pass it. unnortunately it may be a case of too ittle too late. would you be encouraged byythat if it's a gesture. >> the tar sands oil from alberta and also help in the back an in north dakota and montana. so if it'

host: orrin hatch -- guest: he is a dealmaker. he famously cut deals with ted kennedy. orrin hatch is the quintessential senator -- he is a dealmaker, conservative, but he feels he is there to legislate. it is something he would like to do, but again, it is going to come down to whether or not the president is interested in this and that opens up space for 60 votes. democrats will need -- you will need to find six or seven democrats, maybe up to 10, depending on where the republicans are, to do bipartisan tax reform bills, and it seems that is how you will see tax reform, in the senate, it is bipartisan. jesup, georgia. democratic caller. caller: good morning. host: good morning. caller: let me get my thoughts -- i want my republican -- do what the republicans did, of struct, obstruct, of struct. this is mike much into you, mr. drucker. i have heard -- this is my question to you, mr. drucker. i have heard the republicans have sent bills and they will not come to the floor, but you have heard of the whip count. of the bills, how many were for abortion? 40-something for a

have orrin hatch and hatch and alexander are old school. they come from a world where you would reach across the aisle and write legislation. you have a lot of laws that hatch's name in them that have been around for decades. this is an approach we have not seen from the newer senators. domestic policy people who want to get things done. one of the things i have been saying in my own head is that for those who were expect to be confrontational, so-called tea party wing of the senate republicans to assert dominance, they will run have long into a team of chairman who are not from that school. who that it is -- who that is in a position of power is a tea party revolutionary type? >> a lot of these members are young in terms of their careers, but one dynamic that is going to is theresting republicans have until now been in a position of opposition only. they were always trying to hold back the white house and the democratic senate. onlye republicans have been in a position where they could only vote no. they could never put their agenda on the

it's got people from people in the border states, you know, it's got orrin hatch, true conservatives,the process and talk about it. >> process to do it, mary >> that's all in the past. anythingçátf÷es and you say give him more time, bill. >> that's right. best thing for the country. >> also a constitutional democracy and congress is supposed to pass this. >> he asked me a question i'm going to has been it and disend sendh@(oç you on your wa. >> i don't believe that the republicans are going to react like mr. roveip really okay, well, we wall wait. i believe there is going to be a vicious tear your throat out war over this if he signs executive action. that is bad for the entire country. >> they hate obama and you are going to say this going to cause problems? >> you are so nasty, juan. >>ú3hlm don't hate obama, i'm&u> over here arguing about the process.!st> we need to concentn the economybpy'%irst. immigration after that juan and mary katharine, everybody. there he there they are. china, disrespecting president o:k @&c @&c@ brit hume has some thoughts on that. later, watters world tr

orrin hatch in the senate. see them try to work out something.hat's where you are going to see infighting. there will be people who don't want to have any tax increases or tax loophole closures. that will cause fighting. discussions about funding. on the larger issues, beyond the low hanging fruit we des cusdis. they may have a harder tomb moving forward. >> susan, how much pushback would a gop led senate get from the democrats and on what issues? >> oh, i think they will get a lot of push back. certainly many democrats do not support the keystone exile pipeline. many democrats don't want to see changes to the health care law. both working at opposite ends. on tax reform. democrats will fight tooth and nail. broaden the tax base so more are paying taxes. ever an issue about reforming medicare. so you are raising the eligible. democrats will fight that. there will be a lot of push back. that will make it difficult for republicans in the senate to get 60 vote threshold vote to pass anything. if they send it to the president, if he vetoes it. they n

orrin hatch circulated a letter with me, senator orrin hatch. max baucus. kay bailey hutchison, my dear friend from texas. pat roberts from kansas, another dear friend. mike enzi from wyoming. lisa murkowski, of course her name would be on here from alaska. senator john cornyn from texas. john barrasso from wyoming. mark begich from alaska, who just unfortunately lost his race because of several reasons, one of which is that people talk a lot about bipartisanship, don't really honor it and nobody better than mark begich has shown a willingness to work across party lines, but he is no longer with us, but he signed this letter. roy blunt from missouri. john hoeven from north dakota. and ron johnson. but you know a signature that's not on this letter is mitch mcconnell. now, maybe mitch mcconnell was too busy to sign this letter, but his name is not on here. now, am i saying that mitch mcconnell has not been a supporter of keystone pipeline? absolutely not. senator mcconnell has supported this project. but what i am saying is that senator mcconnell has not bee

orrin hatch, the most senior senator, if you're old enough you'll remember from the clarence thomas confirmationnita hill might have cribbed some of her sexual harassment accusations from the movie "the exorcist," also beau jefferson ii who became the second man in 50 years to have his nomination to the federal bench rejected by the judiciary committee. in part over his 1984 prosecution of the marion 3, a trio of civil rights workers who registered voters in alabama known as the black belt. even in 1980s few blacks were registered. they were acquitted but the case became -- the case did come up at his confirmation hearings, as did allegations that he'd referred to a black u.s. attorney as boy. called the naacp and aclu un-american and referred to the 1965 voting rights act as a piece of intrusive legislation. he did stand by his critique of the voting rights action and his desire for section 5, requiring preclearance in several southern states struck down, granted by the supreme court in 2013. the next attorney general will be front and center in the ongoing battle over voting rights. but the ev

senator orrin hatch -- there is a viable pass to meaningful reform, but it senator orrin hatch -- there is a viable pass to meaningful reform, but it does not begin with executive amnesty -- is history from earlier this week. congress has the power of the purse. should use it to stop president obama's amnesty plans. and finally, pete olson, a republican in texas -- i will not allow this president to disregard the will of our people and the laws of our nation -- is what he writes on his twitter page. just a few notes from members of congress who have been very outspoken, and we expect will be in the coming weeks if and when the president moves forward. getting your thoughts, should the president move forward? jim in georgia, you are next on our line for republicans. >> good morning, i love c-span. >> i appreciate it. >> what kills me about this whole situation -- we are the only country in the world that looks like we are not expected to enforce laws that are arty already on the books -- then we have a marine who makes a wrong turning its brutalized in a mexican jail. we have the preside

when you look at orrin hatch and ron wyden, i think they are two men that can work together and leavece committee to produce a bill that would be good for the country and stop the need to have an version. >> senator, thank you so much. much more on the election as bloomberg allah takes managing editors join me next. ♪ >> you just heard former senator trent lott say that he is confident the republicans will take control of the senate and that we will be speaking to a senate majority leader named mitch mcconnell. for a rundown of some of the most interesting races to watch, not just the one in his home state of kentucky, we are joined by bloomberg politics managing editor john heilemann and mark halperin who will be doing an all nighter tonight. in the midwestff on some of the most interesting races you're watching. joni ernst in iowa, what a race that has been to watch. >> it has been a very close race and one we paid attention to for a long time. was projected that generators times a seven-point lead. -- that joni ernst has a seven-point lead. -- a greatave a gate candidate and we wil

but listen to senator orrin hatch, writing an article in "u.s.a.ys republicans will continue to p ush for a full repeal and replacement of obama care in the next congress. conservatives should take advantage of all opportunities to repeal any part of the law and replace it with better policies that empower americans, not washington. to me that's a message from orrin hatch to the conservative base saying when we fail to get full repeal. because they don't have the votes. >> they're going to try to do some other things and the base should accept that. will the base accept that? >> you know, we'll see. those, everybody is talking about the medical device tech, very small-bore things, not taking it out root and branch in the way of it, even mitch mcconnell campaigned on. i think in some ways, conservatives should be looking at the supreme court. they're the ones who are looking at a case that could really up-end this law with the state exchange and getting federal money. >> the subsidies. >> the court would rule the subsidies unconstitutional, that wou

take the incoming chairman of the finance committee, orrin hatch. he is famous for and prides himself in reaching across the aisle to do important legislation with people like ted kennedy. mr. hatch have a lot of say about the prospects for tax reform and other things at the beginning of the next congress. if you take a look at the leadership of some of the other hasittees, lamarr alexander jurisdiction over education policy. of people inot leadership positions who have shown in the past that they are willing to work across party lines to get things done. i am moderately hopeful that if senator mcconnell is true to his word and gives the committee process a chance to work as it should, we areit going to see some decent legislation come forward area --. >> on the next "washington matthew mitchell looks at the congressional lame-duck session. on american legion, executive jones discusses veterans issues. live atton journal" 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. house secretary sylvia burroughs said that the government's goal is to have 9.1 million people enrol

similarly in finance you have orrin hatch in utah probably taking the helm and hatch and alexander are similar in that state. they are old-school. they come from the world where you would reach across the aisle and make a bill and write legislation. you have a lot of laws with his name that have been around for decades. so this is a similar approach but we haven't seen as much from the new senators. and these are very important domestic policy panels who are really dirt to start getting things done. >> anybody jump in here. for those that are expecting the confrontational with the senate republicans to assert they are going to read headline into the team of the chairman who are not from that school. who is in a position of power now is in the formal power is the team for a revolutionary test. >> with a lot of these members are still young in terms of their senate careers looking at the key party wing. but i think one dynamic that is going to be interesting and i'm curious to see rdf exon behavior is they've until now been in the position of opposition only. even in the house they could

supported with senator hoeven literally for years, and in fact, i have a letter from 2011, with orrin hatch was the lead signer with me. senator mcconnell's signature wasn't on the letter. maybe he was busy and couldn't sign it but 15 of us sent a letter back in 2011, urging secretary of state hillary clinton -- this is how far back it guess, people can hardly remember she was secretary of state beau because now john kerris the secretary of state. but a long time ago, saying it was really important for us to get this pipeline built for any number of reasons. the main reason, the main reason, is it will signal a great sign that america understands that energy independence for our nation is possible for the first time ever, and when i mean energy independence, i mean energy independence for the north american continent. we might, might, be able to do it in just the lower 48. we might. hawai'i can contribute some. alaska clearly can contribute a lot. so we might be able to do it in the 50 states. but i know beyond a shadow of a doubt that with our partners in canada, and mexico, this can be do

host: orrin hatch -- guest: he is a dealmaker. he famously cut deals with ted kennedy. orrin hatch is the quintessential senator -- he is a dealmaker, conservative, but he feels he is there to legislate. it is something he would like to do, but again, it is going to come down to whether or not the president is interested in this and that opens up space for 60 votes. democrats will need -- you will need to find six or seven democrats, maybe up to 10, depending on where the republicans are, to do bipartisan tax reform bills, and it seems that is how you will see tax reform, in the senate, it is bipartisan. jesup, georgia. democratic caller. caller: good morning. host: good morning. caller: let me get my thoughts -- i want my republican -- do what the republicans did, of struct, obstruct, of struct. this is mike much into you, mr. drucker. i have heard -- this is my question to you, mr. drucker. i have heard the republicans have sent bills and they will not come to the floor, but you have heard of the whip count. of the bills, how many were for abortion? 40-something for a

take the incoming chairman of the finance committee, orrin hatch.e is famous for and prides himself in reaching across the aisle to do important legislation with people like ted kennedy. mr. hatch have a lot of say about the prospects for tax reform and other things at the beginning of the next congress. if you take a look at the leadership of some of the other hasittees, lamarr alexander jurisdiction over education policy. of people inot leadership positions who have shown in the past that they are willing to work across party lines to get things done. i am moderately hopeful that if senator mcconnell is true to his word and gives the committee process a chance to work as it should, we areit going to see some decent legislation come forward area --. we always appreciate your time. up next, with president obama in china, we will talk more about china and u.s. relationships and wennie s. glaser will also talk about nasa. we will be right back. >> c-span veterans day coverage begins on tuesday morning at 830 eastern -- a.m. eastern. galaat 10:00, the

i've supported with senator hoeven literally for years, in fact i have a letter from 2011 with orrin hatch, who was the leader signer with me. senator mcconnell's signature wasn't on the letter. maybe he was busy that day and couldn't sign it. but about 156 us sen 15 of us sr back in 2011 urging secretary of state hillary clinton -- this is how far back it goes -- but a long time ago saying it was really important for us to get this pipeline built for any number of reasons. the main reason -- the main reason -- is that it will signal a great sign that america understands that energy independence for our nation is possible for the first sim ever. and -- for the first time ever. and when i say "energy independence," i mean energy independence for the north american continent. we might -- might -- be able to do it in just the lower 48. we might. hawaii can contribute some. alaska, clearly, can contribute a lot. so we might be able to do it in the 50 states. but i know beyond a shadow of a doubt that with our partners in canada and mexico, this can be done. and north america can be the super-e

even orrin hatch and i have had great conversations about get things done.y bills have been done with republicans. there are people down there willing to work. i tell you, there is a high level of toxic cynicism in in our country right now about congress. we need to find ways, both as a country and as body to begin combatting that. >> tom brokaw heard he had heard from senator portman who is a moderate republican. and they're talking about getting minimum wage by dealing with republicans and getting corporate tax reform, getting rid of loopholes in exchange for getting minimum wage over $10 an hour. can you see deals like that? that's what being a politician is, dealing. >> exactly right. getting into the trenches and start to hammer out some of these compromises that can move our country forward. i think there's going to be a lot of opportunity for that. i'm new at this, but that's what i came to the senate to do. and by god, i'm going to roll up my sleeves and try to work towards that end. >> it's an honor to have you on. congratulations, sir for winning t