here's what orrin hatch had to say about that. >> i think it's pretty well dead.not the way -- that's a one time shot. he wants to tax the moneys again that have already been taxed in the foreign countries in order to bring them back. well, they're not stupid they're not going to do that and neither are we. >> that's a good sign that corporate tax reform is not going to go anywhere like individual tax reform in this conference. also talked to record rin hatch about politics. yesterday ted cruz at c-pac the gathering of conservatives drawing the presidential candidates in the republican party and said the real divide is not between democrats and republicans, it's between career politicians in washington and people they don't listen to. i asked orrin hatch if it ted cruz was talking about him? >> no, he's not. i don't think so. if you ask him directly does that mean orrin hatch, if he says yes, i would say tough crap, buddy. >> now he plainly is not too enamored with ted cruz. i asked him as well, carl, whether he would be comfortable with any of the three senate co

here is orrin hatch. >> i think it's pretty well dead. look, that's not the way. that's not the way to try to solve our problems. he wants to tax the monies again that have already been taxed in the foreign countries in order to bring them back. well the corporate world is not stupid. they're not going to do that and neither are we. >> now if you want to look for some bright side that they will get done on this day when we're waiting to see if homeland security gets funded, he is close to a deal with ron widen, the ranking democrat on finance, on trade promotion authority which would allow if it passes it would smooth the path for that transpacific trade deal and he said he did not think populists, including elizabeth warren on the democratic side would have the juice to ston that deal if they can get trade promotion authority. >> okay john. that fits right into the discussion we were having. thank you so much, john hardwood, with comments from senator hatch and trade being one of the few areas where it sounds like we might get something done this year. how signif

it will be orrin hatch.crats who want to boycott this speech do you think they are being disloyal to our allies and what message is there in those democrats and critics who won't be there? >> really they should be standing with israel in this hour. they should be loyal to our strongest allies. you can still watch, you can watch now the video of winston churchill speaking before a joint session of congress. this is the third time the israeli prime minister is going there. he was there in '96 and 2011. years from now, decades from now, with everything that is ahead for israel and the stability of the future of the middle east, when they are looking at that video, they are looking at that picture saying where was the vice president. what was more important, when we had a historic unity rally in paris, where was our president? why was his plane flying -- >> eric holder was there and he skipped out of paris. but what about the election? it is just like two weeks before the israeli election. the critics are saying

orrin hatch, richard burr, and fred upton have come up with what they are calling an alternative to obamacarewhich eliminates the individual mandate while preserving many of the popular parts of the law. after long last, have the republicans figured out a way to add an understandable and effective and sensible replace with their call to repeal obamacare? >> this plan is not a new plan. it is a plan that has been around before. the party did not rally around it in its previous incarnation. we've got to see whether the party rallies to this or not and there's stuff in here that a lot of republicans don't like. they just want to tear obamacare. there are a lot of questions about whether this would insure all americans like every other industrialized country in the world. >> i think there are things in here that are popular and sensible. there are things in here like taxing the benefits of individuals that will be controversial. i don't think this is an area where republicans can win the fight until they have a strong presidential front-runner who talks about health care in a comprehensive way, w

john harwood spoke earlier today with republican senator orrin hatch. >> some of the executives will have to work and get paid later. but it is essentially self-funded. so anybody who wants to make a big fuss about that really doesn't understand the budget, doesn't understand the self-funding mechanism of d.h.s. or the department of homeland security. gwen: but optics matter, and it may not matter if hatch is right. john. >> the effect is much more like likely to be political than on american security. republicans are not going to be able to blame this on democrats. they officially made this the strategy when they were funding the government last fall or after the last election. they funded the entire rest of the government through september 30 except for the department of homeland security. gwen: there would not be a government shutdown. >> not entire government. but did it eck police eck police eck police italy for this purpose. it is difficult for them to do the normal things you when a party is in control of congress and pugh research took a poll and said is either party too extr

here's senator orrin hatch, the chairman of the senate finance committee when i talked to him about the consequences of not funding the department. >> dhs will completely run. there's not going to be a loss of personnel or a loss of time. some of the executives will have to work and get paid later. but it is essentially self-funded. anybody who wants to make a big fuss about that doesn't understand the budget doesn't understand the mechanism of dhs, department of homeland security. >> and i think he's right. this is more political repercussions than security repercussions which is why republicans are trying to find a solution tonight. >> new congress but some things stay the same. you referenced a plan b. you said the house is trying to come up with it. do we have any idea what the outlines of a plan b would be or do they have them? >> reporter: they don't have one. and the senate has a plan which mitch mcconnell put forward as a way out of the box they're in which is to pass what they call a clean homeland security funding bill through the end of the fiscal year but if john boehner cou

those skips it includes vice president joe biden whose seat will be taken by orrin hatch.sident obama and secretary of state, john kerry, say they will not meet with netanyahu. >>> time for business news for you. and a preview of markets. stocks closed in the red on friday, following the january jobs report. overall posted gains for the week. what can you tell us about the new unemployment numbers? they were decent. but the markets didn't respond so well. what are they saying about how they'll do today? >> yeah. it's an interesting one, isn't it? unambiguously good numbers. 257,000 jobs added, which was a great number. plus the revisions for november and december very good. it means 1 million jobs have been added since november 1st. what's there not to like? the raise in the markets were wobbly as they thought that brings forward an interest rate hike from the federal reserve. today, though it's going to be interesting. the markets are starting the session a little weaker. and it may be some of the fear factor from europe that's affecting the early market calls here. we ar

booker and orrin hatch were featured and even hosted a watch party with booker writing "some across-the-aislesan bonding with my staff and senator hatch's staff." >>> a popular youtube channel called barackdubs likes to splice together videos of the president singing some of the most popular songs and the newest jam has the president channeling his inner taylor swift. ♪ >> i love you back. i stay up too late. got nothing in my brain. that's what people say, mm-hmm. that's what people say, mm-hmm. i go on too many dates. but i can't make them stay at least that's what people say, mm-hmm. that's what people say, mm-hmm. ♪ >> my favorite is the "mm-hmm." and that's your morning dish of "scrambled politics." >>> all right, 21 minutes past the hour. i'm joined now by "politico" reporter katy glueck. good morning to you, katie. >> thanks for having me. >> president obama is expected to ask congress today for authorization to fight isis. now, the biggest sticking point could be that request that prohibits "enduring offensive ground operations." now, is that a term that is just vague enough that it c

today republican senate finance chairman orrin hatch revealed another document dump by the irs. >> and late last month, this committee worked to finalize its . >> we have made clear that the behavior at issue is unacceptable can not happen again. >> reporter: sources on capitol hill say this is a test of wills between lawmakers looking for answers and the administration to see if congress will stay on oversight or move on out of frustration on. capitol hill mike emanuel, fox news. lou: house republicans holding their 56th vote over the past four years to repeal obamacare and the vote passed again. this time 239-186. president obama has already threatened to veto the legislation, but it does get the 114th congress on record that americans support the repeal of obamacare. >>> 60% of all voters want all our parts of obamacare repealed. among the reasons, the cost keeps rising. the latest estimates show the health care law will cost $50,000 per enrollee. $50,000! and by the way, 31 million americans still will be without health care coverage despite the passage of the law. >>> not to menti

let's listen to orrin hatch. >> here we have the president >> well, i don't know about the language -i don't know how senators call president stupid. i'm sorry, senator hatch. i have no problem with you personally, but you have to stop talking about a president like that. he's stupid? your thoughts, senator. how do you get the language together, the duty of the senate is to deliberate. how does the effort to -- the greatest deliberative body achieve a coalescing. there is too much language restricting. >> well, i think what you will see is a fascinating hearing and fascinating debate. you have people like bob menendez, corker, tim kaine, very thoughtful people. i disagree with a bit. manchin is right, but maybe for different reasons. 9 reality is ground troops from america aren't going to win this war. it's gob to be arabs and muslims taking on arabs and muslims. if we go in there, that's exactly what isis wants. in other words, it won't be effective, but, you know i've got to say, don't you find it ironic, chris, you've been watching this for a long time, to see republicans arguing t

fred upton and orrin hatch that will essentially throw the law out the window. why not that? they lose the case, the republicans will have a moment of leverage. that moment won't last forever. they have an opportunity to drive meaningful reform of obamacare through. but if they put up a full replacement of the law, the president will veto that. they don't have the votes to override the veto. gerri: how likely is it that the president puts out an executive order and says the federal exchanges in those states are state exchanges. consider them state exchanges. >> that's exactly what they'll try to do. there's something called state supported exchanges. three states that have. which is basically the front end of the state exchange but the back end defaults to healthcare.gov. those state exchanges qualify as state exchanges. it requires the governor to do something affirmative. they have to have an executive action to become one of those state supported exchanges. this will put a lot of -- it's easy. but it will put a lot of pressure to do something affirmative to support obamaca

. >> reporter: orrin hatch said these documents that were turned over relating to the irs targeting scandal are central and relevant to this investigation we'll see where those documents take the investigation from there. >> i want to ask you about, the irs commissioner issued a warning for the public for this tax season, what is being said? >> is irs suffered a $346 million funding cut so the irs commissioner has been warning there my be furlows lating this fiscal year and lousy service earlier this tax season. >> it's going to be a difficult filing season and the service is going to be if not miserable, abysmal, it will be a level of service that none of us believe taxpayers deserve. >> in his new budget proposal president obama asked for an 18% increase for the irs, at this point that seems rather unlikely. >>> well house lawmakers gearing up for a new vote to repeal obama care, why the white house could -- supreme court challenge to the president's health care law and what it could mean for millions of americans nationwide. and france on high alert after alleged anti-semitic attack. and

taking the vice president's seat will be republican senator orrin hatch, who is a president pro tem ofe senate. neither president obama nor secretary of state john kerry will meet with netanyahu when he's in town. they say it's too close to the israeli elections and don't want to appear to take sides? >> thanks so much. >>> long time nbc news anchor brian williams taking a leave of absence from his newscast after he apologized about misremembering a story about his iraq coverage. in a letter to the staff, he said quote, as managing editor of nbc nightly news, i have decided to take myself off my daily broadcast for the next several days. he goes on it say upon my return, i will continue my career long effort to be worthy of the trust of those who placed their trust in us. williams apologized for the exaggerated story about the helicopter flight he said he was on a helicopter that took enemy fire in iraq when, in fact, it was the helicopter in front of his. nbc news assigned the head of its investigative unit to look into the statements. and lester holt will take overt anchor desk in th

also talked today about reforming the tax code and i spoke with senate finance committee chair orrin hatchhe said the great difficulty, even with the majority of reforming the tax code because you have got to get past the filibuster for one. what is sort of your dream about this tax code can, if you were president you could do something. what would do you? >> i would start by lowering every rate and a closing every loophole. it's not just the rate in the tax code that are uncompetitive and too high. it's also the complexity of our tax code which makes it so very difficult for small businesses and hard working americans to dig their way through it. if you are a big powerful company like hewlett packard, can you make the tax code work. can you make it work for you. but for the small or the powerless or othe less wealthy, the complexity of the tax code is a problem. so let's start by vastly simplifying it. and if there are one or two deductions that make sense, fine let's put them back in. what we keep doing ask adding complexity to the tax code. >> what would you do about the very pour in so

let's listen to orrin hatch. >> here we have the president coming up with this -- i think it's kind of stupid proposal and he's binding the next president also with really stupid language. most importantly, the president should be asking for the authorization that would not impose any artificial and unnecessary limitations, such as those based on time geography, and type of force. >> well i don't know about the language -- i don't know how senators call president stupid. i'm sorry, senator hatch. i have no problem with you personally, but you have to stop talking about a president like that. he's stupid? your thoughts senator. how do you get the language together, the duty of the senate is to deliberate. how does the effort to -- the greatest deliberative body achieve a coalescing. there is too much language restricting. >>. >> well, i think what you will see is a fascinating hearing and fascinating debate. you have people like bob menendez corker tim kaine, very thoughtful people. i disagree with a bit. manchin is right, but maybe for different reasons. 9 reality is ground troops from

there were conciliatory remarks from this on owen at -- orrin hatch.e is usually the first one who says that will never happen. this time he said we will look at details. >> we actually got some corporate tax reform, how big of a stimulus would that be? >> he's already got it earmarked for infrastructure spending. that is always popular with his voter base. >> the you agree with mr. gabelli that foreign money could show -- should come back to shareholders? >> you've paid a fee based on that money belonging to the corporation. >> and can come back to shareholders and get taxed on its way through the door. that is a good thing for his voter base. is that a good thing for you? is infrastructure need what we need as a stimulus? >> i hate it when you see these big federal programs. you do build some nice infrastructure. >> i'm talking about changing the tax incentive so when mark zuckerberg says he's been spending a lot of money his stock price doesn't get punished. our tax code should be incentivizing development in r&d. >> is there any chance of this pass

it's been noted that senator orrin hatch is a leading proponent of deregulating the industry and others support that. i think consumer safety does have to come first. this is not a situation that it was in 1994, we're talking about more than $60 billion a year of these products in the economy. it is time to impose some tighter standards of safety. in the meantime in new york state, i'm going to use my consumer protection powers to make sure that nothing is sold to consumers that's not what it says on the label. >> so if you are a consumer tonight and you're walking into your neighborhood health food store, what kind of precautions should you be taking to make sure you're getting what you're buying. >> well, what we're examined are the store brands. we're not saying this is true of all of the supplement industry. we think this is going to begin a process of these stores coming forward and the sellers of the product really do have a responsibility under consumer protection and labeling laws and we're really holding them accountable to go back and make sure that they have quality control a

criminal justice reform national commission up for a vote, this was a bi-partisan -- i had oren -- orrin hatch and lindsey graham as co-sponsors on this bill, people from all across the philosophical spectrum who worked on these issues every day in support of this. justice kennedy supported it. $18 million. that's it. one helicopter. excuse me $14 million. , one helicopter. we could have done this. we weret the best minds of america, show us how to fix this, the whole nature of this problem and particularly at reentry, and who goes to jail? how long? we got filibustered october of '11. we got 57 votes and the national review, the conservative paper , editorialized it was insane to have filibustered something that was that logical but that's how far that things got divided. we can do better than that. host: final question. what is your timeline? guest: i will know it when i see it. we are out talking to people. we are talking more now going in to this year. if we see that it's, you know, if we see that this is viable, that it can be funded in a way that we can get into the debates, we will move

orrin hatch, jeff flake. a few others. it looks like she may get out of committee. the problem is whether republicans would try to block her on the floor. you have people like ted cruz and jeff sessions, who for the same reason we were talking about before with the issue of executive actions on immigration, are saying they will not allow the loretta lynch nomination to move forward. there is potential that if they wanted to pass her and confirm her in the full senate, they would have to do that -- mcconnell would have to do that by relying on mostly democrats rather than mostly republicans. that would be something awkward, but right now, it is looking like there are a decent number of republicans who are not willing to support her, because she supports the executive actions. >> a look at some of what is ahead from congress from elise foley who covers congress and more. you can read more by following huffingtonpost.com and follow her on twitter, @elisefoley. thank you. >> keep track of the republican-led congress and follow its new members through its first session.

but i believe you have good people, orrin hatch and others, paul ryan, who will get together, will put thoughtful, responsible budget. i'm hopeful the republicans this the house will not be vin dickive and slash and burn a lot of the programs they may not agree with, but give everybody a reasonable cut that's expected. charles: right. >> here we are getting almost a $400 billion nongovernmental stimulus with the reduction of the gas price, and what does the government want to do? it wants to raise taxes on people and get more money. how about fing all the things -- fixing all the things, charles, that you talk about? i listened to you, that coburn and everyone talks about and just, you know, why are we still doing this? do that first. charles: do that first. >> then come to me and say, hey, listen, this is what we need. we don't need $4 trillion, but we still need a trillion, and this is what i'm going propose. that's not being done, and that's what ticks off the american people. there's a lack of trust, charles. charles: you're absolutely right. i've got the tell you, if the other sco

senate finance chairman republican orrin hatch says quote, there is no reason to hire employees who have already failed to uphold those expectations. this week a fellow top republican senator blasted the agency for practices that don't make sense. >> the irs has shelled out over a million dollars in bonuses 10,000 hours in paid vacation time to 1,100 irs employees who owe back taxes. >> reporter: there's also this new report from institute for justice which says, thanks to federal civil forfeiture laws the irs has seized millions of dollars from thousands of americans' bank accounts without proof of criminal behavior. among the findings from 2005 to 2012 the irs seized more than $242 million for suspected structuring violations in more than 2,500 cases. at least one third of those cases arose from a series of cash transactions under ten$10,000 with no other criminal activity alleged. the irs said it will focus its limited resources on cases there's evidence the money comes from illegal sources. in washington mike emanuel fox news. >>> did a young american woman actually die in those jord

the senate finance committee is chaired by utah republican orrin hatch. this is just over two hours. >> welcome to the irs john cost koskinen koskinen. also fiscal year 2016 budget proposal. commissioner costkoskinen. more than 152 years ago the finance committee received a letter from george butwell who president lincoln had apointed as the first commissioner of the international revenue. the letter came in response to an inquiry from the committee seeking information about the commissioner's organization, his budget and the activities of his office. does that sound familiar? in his letter, dated january 21st 1863 commissioner bodwell tried to answer the committee's questions by starting by first asking congress for more money. specifically he wroelt, quote before proceeding to estimate the expenses of assessing and collecting the revenue i desire to express the opinion that an increase in the pay of assessors is very important if not absolute necessary unquote. now, that part does sound familiar to me. as you and i continue this historic and important r

senator orrin hatch republican from utah wrote, quoting here, by admitting they have no contingency plan millions that may lose subsidies the administration confirms how misguided the law is and unworkable for the american people. i'm committed to working with my republican colleagues how congress can respond to help those hurt by obamacare's broken promises including those in a post-king v. burrwell world. martha, there are rumors circulating that senior hhs officials have a secret plan b should the supreme court rule against obamacare. burwell will undoubtedly asked about the rumors in this plan b document as testimony gets underway again right about now. martha, back to you. martha: interesting, thank you doug. bill: there is new trouble for the obamacare architect jonathan gruber. remember this? >> for people who health insurance plans they will no longer get a 40% tax break. 40% tax on the insurance companies that sell these terrible expensive cadillac plans? we said well that is pretty much the same thing. why does it matter? you'll see and proposing that tax. americans are too stu

on the senate side, orrin hatch has the same role, but it is different. paul ryan is so critical. and the tone so far has been pretty positive even on the floor of the house yesterday, when he was fighting with democrats over a relatively modest tax bill, the tone was positive. they were talking about bipartisan compromise. that matters to paul ryan. >> what i find interesting here he has an impatience. his father died tragically young. his impatience has always been there. in his politics. what is he impatient about right now? >> he is a guy who has nervous energy all the time. he is a workout freak. that sort of thing. he has a lot on his agenda. he feels like serving in congress is a chance to get things done and he has said that he may not be around for much longer in congress. he wants to see if he can get something done. maybe there are national ambitions down the road. the fact that he has a clock ticking is a good thing for president obama. he has a clock ticking as well. if he is going to get a legacy issue in the next two years it is going to be because he worked somethi

although senators orrin hatch and richard burr and fred upton have drafted a health care plan and they're offering a difference. chris, what kind of difference can the republicans offer that would be better than the affordable care act as we know it now? >> nothing. i mean, basically what they're going to offer is a proposal that makes things worse. that takes health care coverage away from millions of families. now, listen, i know republicans are never going to like obamacare. that is a given, but the notion that somehow this law has been a disaster, well, i guess, providing health care to millions of families for some republicans is a disaster. helping to reduce the cost of inflation of health care is a disaster. having you know health care basically in terms of the uninsured rate at the lowest level it's been in decades that's a disaster. if the -- this is an issue that from republicans' perspective they see health care as a luxury. for most americans they see it as a necessity. the idea that you'll take it away and come back with a proposal that basically limits it even further whatev

senator orrin hatch of utah chairs the senate finance committee. >> the committee will come to order. good morning it's a pleasure to welcome everyone to today's hearing on the fiscal year 2016 budget for the department of health and human services, hhs. i want to thank you secretary burwell for being here with us today. this is your first time before the committee since been confirmed so welcome back in your official capacity. i told you when we were talking at your confirmation hearing that the job you now have would be a thankless one and that you are undertaking an enormous responsibility. at that time we also discussed three main areas that i incurred to do focus on during your time at hhs responsiveness accountability and dependence. i would like to talk about more of each of these areas today. let's start with responsiveness. during a hearing i raise the importance of being responsive to congress and to this committee in particular. you assured me that this would be a top priority of yours as well and under your watch we would see a marked improvement. the pass to this committe

orrin hatch, lindsey graham and jeff flake of arizona. on politico this morning, gop leaders said to swerve dhs off the cliff. first, the good news. congress appears to have found a way to avoid the shutdown of the department of homeland security for the next three weeks. now, the bad -- the month is beginning to look grim for the new republican congress that has lost the expectations for legislating in 2015. gop l leaders -- that will eat the house and senate three weeks to bridge the fundamental differences on funding the department and the long-term and blocking president barack obama's changes to the enforcement of immigration policy. congress must update a allocated -- complicated medicare reimbursement -- gop leaders vow to avoid them, but legislative clips are back. the most immediate tripwire may be removed now that john boehner and house republicans have convinced their rank-and-file to fund the department for three weeks or risk having the senate's bill jammed down their throats. house democrats are whipping against the bill, wh

orrin hatch, jeff flake. a few others. it looks like she might be able to get out of committee. the problem is whether republicans would try to block her on the floor. people like ted cruz and jeff sessions who for the same reason that we were talking about before with the issue of executive actions on immigration are saying that they will not allow the loretto lynch nomination to move forward. so there is potential that if they wanted to pass her and confirm her in the full senate it would have to do that -- mcconnell would have to do that by relying on mostly democrats rather than mostly republicans. and that would be certainly something awkward, but right now it is looking like there are a decent number of republicans not willing to support her for that reason because she supports those executive actions. host: reporter:a a look at what is ahead in congress. you can read more at "huffington post." follow her reporting on twitter. reporter: thank you. >> the political landscape has changed with the 114th congress. not only are there 43 new republicans and 15 you democrats in t

senate finance chairman republican orrin hatch says, quote: there is no reason to hire employees who this week a fellow top republican senator blasted the agency for practices that don't make sense. >> the irs has shelled out over a million dollars in bonuses $10,000 in paid vacation time to 1100 irs employees who owe back taxes. >> there is also this report from institute for justice which says thanks to federal civil forfeiture laws the irs has seized thousands of dollars from bank accounts without proof of criminal behavior. among the findings from 2005 to 2012 the irs seized more than $242 million for suspected structuring violations in more than 2500 cases. at least 1/3 of those cases arose from a series of cash transactions under $10,000 with no other criminal activity alleged. >> the irs now says it will focus its limited resources on cases where there is evidence the money comes from illegal sources in washington. mime emanuel, fox news. >> thanks mike. >> well now to your head lines, a massive pileup in new york in upstate new york turns into an interstate junk ward. look at

senators orrin hatch and richard burr and fred upton had things like you couldn't be denied coveragealue of that insurance exceeds a certain level, you would have to pay an income tax on that sum. this is just a framework that comes five full years after the affordable care act was first passed what is the future for obamacare, could the supreme court, would the supreme court actually deal it a fatal blow this year? will republicans ever build enough support to gut it themselves or will they eventually give up the fight? joining me now is former governor and doctor howard dean, and david frum senior editor with the atlantic. howard dean i'll ask but this republican alternative. for years we have been repeal and replace. now here is the replace. >> the question is is the bill universal. does everybody has health care? obamacare doesn't do that this does it worse. the key insurance reforms in obamacare sound like upton and his crew are proposing that is community rating and guaranteed issue. we need to see the fine print. this is not enough. this can't be taken seriously. but it is a s

. >> reporter: one top republican orrin hatch who will support her and said so publicly said her answersr 30-year career. many republicans say she is been a terrific public servant, a good person and is in many ways qualified and don't like her position on immigration and this is another battle line where they can fight it. with the rules of the senate if she gets approved by the committee today, the democrats will probably have enough votes to see her confirmed, but there are ways to slow it down and possibly to stop it. we don't see that happening just yet. jose. >> kelly o'donnell, thanks so very much. great seeing you. >> you, too. >>> snow snow and more snow. add to that it may be almost march but that doesn't mean the winter weather is done. with the east coast and midwest due for storms over the weekend and the brutal cold continuing into next week nbc meteorologist bill karins is joining me. what's going on? the same day, same story? >> groundhog's day. two snow stats, which one do you think is more impressive. >> all right. >> one, florida is the only state in the lower 48 where

you can see the chairman, senator orrin hatch of utah. he's the gentleman in the gray suit walking back to the center of the dais there. we're waiting yet it looks like for former senator bill bradley, the new jersey democrat. you did see a moment ago senator hatch talking with former senator bob packwood. both senator -- former senator bradley and senator packwood will be witnesses today. they'll be talking about some of that 1986 tax deal under president reagan. they were both members of the committee and they were part of that tax package. we do have live coverage and we're under way as soon as this hearing gets gaveled in. >>> hearing will come to order. today's hearing is about the need for tax reform and what lessons we can learn from the tax reform act of 1986. the last successful overhaul of the united states tax code. we have before us today two former senators who were key to that effort. i don't know why they call you former senators. i think you're always going to be senators to me. i look forward to hearing their thoughts and

senator orrin hatch of utah chairs the committee. >> the committee will come to order. schumer. ha ha ha. [ feedback "discovery"back ] today's hearing is on president obama's budget for fiscal year 2016. i want to thank secretary lew for appearing before us today and i'm not going to sugarcoat anything with this budget. instead, i'm going to cut right to the chase. the president's budget proposes to hike taxes by $2.1 trillion. seemingly, not content with the $1.7 trillion the new taxes allies in congress have imposed the past six years. the president, with this budget wants to raise taxes on savings, investment small business and more somehow thinking it will help the committee. sadly, this insatiable desire to raise taxes is not intended to bring our budget into balance. rather, the president's $2.1 trillion tax hike is accompanied by proposals to further expand the government to an even greater share of our committee. the proposed pudget never balances. deficits continue which means the debt is a share in the committee would remain at levels not seen in our nation's history o

>> guest: well, there are several republicans who have indicated support for lynch; orrin hatch jeff flake, a few others. so it looks like she might be able to get out of committee. the problem is whether republicans would try and block her on the floor. you have people like ted cruz and jeff sessions who for the same reason that we were talking about before with the issue of executive alaskas on immigration -- actions on immigration are saying they won't allow the loretta lynch nomination to move forward. so there is potential that if they wanted to pass her and confirm her in the full senate, they would have to do that, mcconnell would have to do that by relying on mostly democrats, you know rather than mostly republicans. and that would be, certainly something sort of awkward. but right now it's looking like there are a decent number of republicans who are not willing to support her for that reason because she supports those executive actions. >> host: a look at some of what's ahead in congress from elise foley who covers congress and more for huffington post. you can follow her r

orrin hatch and senator ron wyden and representative paul ryan has settled most disagreements over theegislation. one remaining issue is how congress could move a deal from fast track process. complications from that could unravel any agreement." rick. caller: hello, america. america, what you all do not understand or ce, look behind this gentleman. you see a capital that was no by slaves. a white house that was built by slaves. the president is staying in his place. it is the reality of this country. america, i love this country. most black people -- 99.99% of black people in this country love this country. by live in a state where confederate flag is flying. that was an anti-terrorist group. you know what they used for the terrorist groups over there -- they use the confederate flag. you understand? this is ingrained in american society. the prison system. corporate america. host: from cincinnati, ohio. republican line. caller: speaking of the mayor, i love the man. he said exactly what a lot of people are thinking. i love what he said. i agree with them. i was just waiting for someo

signed orrin hatch, president protemperature of the senate and john a. boehner, speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker: the chair will entertain one-minute speeches on each side of the aisle. for what purpose does the gentleman from california rise? without objection. mr. mcclintock: mr. speaker, the obama majority on the f.c.c. seized unprecedented control over the internet under the guise of net neutrality. now, net neutrality is the notion that the latest cat video is of equal importance to a teleconference consultation for a heart patient. to impose this leftist ideology on the internet the f.c.c. has just placed it on the same stifling regulatory structure as the phone company or broadcast stations. this gives them potential control over content and it destroys the price-driven incentives for innovation expansion, speed, economy that americans have long enjoyed. it means more costs as government piles on new fees. and the natural incentives to invest are stifled. its internet services conspicuously slower, ponderous. the reason the int

this letter was written on july 22, 2014, and it went to chairman ron wyden and ranking member orrin hatch of the finance committee. and what the letter says -- and i quote -- "as the largest nonprofit/nonpartisan organization representing the interests of americans aged 50 and older and their families, we write in advance of the committee's legislative hearing on the social security disability insurance program to express our support for social security including its disability insurance functions and our support of rebalancing payroll taxes to ensure the earned benefits of 11 million disabled americans and their families are not reduced or put at risk." once again aarp "we support the rebalancing payroll taxes to ensure the earned benefits of 11 million disabled americans and their families are not reduced or put at risk." and, mr. president, i would ask unanimous consent that that letter be entered into the record. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. sanders: thank you mr. president. but, mr. president it is not just the aarp who holds that view. it is dozens and dozens of sen

senator orrin hatch has indicated we support your nomination. why then do we have to keep waiting and waiting? we're approaching three months this good woman has been held up for a job she's been nominated for. i would hope that the republican leadership would move this out of the senate as quickly as possible. i'm not going to dwell very long on the matter that's before this body when we vote at 2:30. we have here with us the leading democrat on the appropriations committee and she'll talk about homeland security. we have here on the floor today the assistant democratic leader, who is one of the authors of a bill that we brought to the floor and was debated for a long time and passed overwhelmingly before it was blocked by republicans. we have before us a very interesting proposition. we've had terrorist attacks in canada in awe strail yarks all over the -- all strail i -- australia, france and belgium. we're talking about funding it with more money. the senate led by republicans are doing everything in their power to make sure homeland securit

senator orrin hatch of utah chaired the two-hour hearing.ble conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> the committee will come to order. schumer. the community will come to order. today's hearing is on president obama's budget for fiscal year 2016. i want to thank secretary jack lew for appearing before us today. the president's budget proposes proposes to hike taxes by $2.1 trillion seemingly not content with the 1.7 trillion in new taxes. the president wants to raise taxes on savings investment, small business and more. sadly, this will desire to raise taxes and is not intended to bring our budget into balance. rather it is accompanied by proposals to further expand the government to an even greater share of our economy the proposed budget never balances. deficits continue with me is that a as a share of the economy would remain at levels not seen in our nation's nation's history outside of a few years surrounding world war ii. that would mean continuing risk of the nonpartisan congressional budget office has labeled a fiscal crisis. in

rate down to about 20, 28%, 29%, we give up that differential for capital gains and that is hatch, sen. orrin begins q & a indeed what we did. we got the rate to 28 and that was the rate of capital and income. so each chairman would pose thoughts. thank you, committee for the opportunity to come back. once every 25 years. >> we're honored both of you are here and i think anybody listening to this has to realize went tli a very trying time. very difficult for the congress was split. republican president -- >> appreciate you, start the time. let me just ask this question. revenues the percentage of gdp averaged 17.4% over the past 50 years. revenues in 2014 were 17.5% of gdp. in other words, taxes are higher than the historic, even higher. so, taxes are already higher and have been raising revenue and tax reform makes enacting it less likely. shouldn't we do tax reform on basis. start with you, senator packwood. >> i would much prefer it although i would combine both corporate and individual into one bill. and thep you have a little more wiggle room using either side of that equation to be able