hatch-goodlatte. terrific guys, i didn't know you liked music that much, orrin? the hatch-goodlatte music modernization act. it's a landmash -- landmark bill to protect the intellectual property and genius of america's incredible musicians. thank you for secretary wilbur ross for being here and working so hard to get this done and i especially want to thank one of the bill's lead sponsors an accomplished musician and songwriter in his own right, i've heard, but i haven't heard his music, i'll let you know, the legendary senator orrin hatch. it's been 44 years. how long have you been in the senate. 42. i thought it was 44. 42. that's pretty good. feels like 44. 's been my friend and he's been a great, great senator. i also want to thank another friend of mine, bob goodlatte for his tremendous leadership at the helm of the house judiciary committee, very instrumental on this. let me also recognize and thank senate judiciary committee chairman chuck grassley. everybody knows chuck, he's become more famous in the last two weeks, what a job you did. was that easy chuck

i mean, if you think fussing at orrin hatch and blocking his elevator is going to change orrin hatch'sn you don't know orrin hatch. >> that's a good point as well. >> i saw this video. i mean, you know, he is who he is. the group that posted this video is called vote pro-choice, and the vote pro-choice group, of course, you know, that tells you everything you need to know about what their aims are here and it's about abortion politics. you know, something joan said that i think is interesting, i see this in my twitter feed all the time, this ageism. in a midterm election, older voters make up a larger proportion of the electorate than they do in presidential elections, and i keep hearing people say, old white men, old white men. guess what? there's going to be a lot of older voters go to the polls and i think when i hear people like joan and other liberal democrats sort of attack people for being old, i wonder how that's sitting out there with older voters of any political stripe. the idea that because you're old, you're not supposed to have an opinion about national affairs, i don't t

. -- utah's senate debate to fill the seat of orrin hatch. live on c-span 2 at 8:00, gonzalezaker debates j . here on c-span at 10:00 p.m., arizona's second congressional district debate. c-span, your primary source for campaign 2018. mayor and strategist and the fabric -- liz mair. as far as republicans go this time around, what is the message

utah's senaten, debate between mitt romney and jenny wilson to fill the seat of retiring senator orrin hatch. on c-span2, massachusetts governor debates his democratic challenger. c-span, thetern on arizona second congressional district debate between ann kirkpatrick and leah marquez peterson. c-span, your primary source for campaign 2018. before president trump left the white house for a rally in iowa, he spoke about the u.n. ambassador announcing her resignation and his upcoming lunch with kanye west. president trump: hello everybody. we're headed out to iowa where we have a big statement to make. for our farmers. likewise we are taking care of our refineries and our refiners. they have done a fantastic job. >> [inaudible] president trump, dena is a person she would -- i would consider. we have many names. nicky has been great. she will be working with us in helping us with the choice. she will help us with 2020. nikki is a great friend of mine. we have become great friends. she has done a fantastic job. she will be involved. gina, certainly. i have heard a lot of names. i've heard ivanka.

senator orrin hatch was caught in the elevator yesterday and hallway. >> why aren't you brave enough to talk to us and exchange with us? don't you wave your hand at me. i wave my hand at you. >> when you grow up, i'll grow up. >> when you grow up? you are not grown up. >> how dare you talk to women that way. how dare you. [ bleep ]. >> so a risk here, of course, the little hand wave when you grow up. it is condescending to women. on the other hand, the talk of the brett bounce that conservatives are seeing the protesters and seeing the attack on judge kavanaugh. they are actually energized by this. >> yeah. that's right. some republicans think this fires up the base. i would say most republicans, leadership included, this could help in the mid-term elections. if he does get confirmed, it doesn't help him as much as if this vote goes down. orrin hatch, he in particular, the same republican who was on the panel when anita hill had her hearings. hatch has changed his views on a number of things. including gay rights. he is more open to them from being a co

their republican you know most of their politics fairly repugnant and i'm sick of hearing the name orrin hatch i've heard his name my whole life and it's always attached to horrible things so i don't want to hear them but you don't put out people you don't do x. people this is things that were done to attack women online they've been done to rape victims and assault victims these are things that are not ok so i'm glad i got caught before anyone got hurt because people do get hurt like let's try to be you know fight violence or fight ignorance with more ignorance and violence so whoever did that i hope it's just one of those like i'm an intern and i made. the tragedy other i will but about to is the congress of so they do take it off twitter because it just read it you know. they just in general let it appears there's a new master and yes united states president donald trump has worked out a brand new potentially bad trade agreement with mexico and canada darn and in the effort to replace the nine hundred ninety s. bill clinton era bad trade to imaginatively titled the united states mexico cana

they are waiting to hear from orrin hatch when he retires in january, will have served 42 years in the senate. longtime judiciary member, he will be speaking about the senate's role, the advice and consent role. while we wait for the event to get underway, we will show you part of the event earlier at the white house on opioid legislation. ♪ >> good afternoon. before i begin, i want to take a moment to talk about today's news and attempted attacks on president clinton, president obama, their families, individuals, and organizations. we cannot tolerate those cowardly attacks, and i strongly condemn all who choose violins. i am grateful to the secret service as well as the local and federal law enforcement for all they do on a daily basis, to keep us safe and encourage people across the country to choose kindness over patron. i want to welcome you all to the white house to reflect on the progress this administration has made in attacking the opioid crisis and more importantly to look ahead at the work still to be done. >> welcome to the 10th annual joseph story distinguished lecture. on

people say are you going to run multiple terms like orrin hatch, and i say i see if i ran as ofs orrin hatch i would be 112. no, i'm not going to do that. >> on russia, during the 2012 campaign, you famously warned of the russian threat. many dismissed your concerns. what should our policy be particularly what appears to have been interference with the in 2016. >> i felt at that time in 2012 that russia was our greatest geopolitical adversary. wasn't expecting them to launch some sort of a warhead or military action against us, but they were a geopolitical adversary basically poking us wherever they could in then supporting the worlds worst actors in to see them playing on a geopolitical stage at that point quite effectively as an adversary. the greatest threat i thought came from iran becoming nuclear. north korea with their nuclear plans and the pakistanis and others so the greatest threat was the nuclearization of iran and north korea. today if you were to say what is the greatest long-term challenge geopolitically, it is probably more china and russia just because the chinese econo

these women confronting orrin hatch. >> don't you wave your hand at me!s filing into a secure room reserved for classified briefings, getting their first look at the fbi's findings that will likely determine kavanaugh's fate. two crucial republican senators seemed satisfied with the report. susan collins saying it appears to be a very thorough investigation. and jeff flake saying it offered no additional corroborating information to back up sexual misconduct allegations against kavanaugh. but heidi heitkamp is announcing her decision. >> i will be voting no. >> reporter: republicans say the findings vindicate judge kavanagh. >> for goodness sake, this is the united states of america. nobody is supposed to be guilty until proven innocent in this country. >> why don't we dunk him in water and see if he floats? enough. enough already. let's vote. >> reporter: democrats slamming the investigation as restricted and incomplete. >> democrats agreed that the investigation's scope should be limited. we do not agree that the white house should tie the fbi's hands.

orrin hatch telling someone when you grow up, i'll talk to you.credit, he's one of the oldest people in all of government. but this is kind of remarkable, michelle? >> i mean, first of all, it's remarkable that orrin hatch was also there to slander anita hill and he's still at it. you'ri you'ri you're right, public opinion has changed. the republican party if it's changed has only been for the worse. >> what we have right now is the brute illegitimate of white male patriarchal power against the express wishes of the majority of the people in this country. the elevation of brett kavanaugh to the supreme court is likely to make this problem of minority rule, which i think is the single political issue of our time worse. he's there to further put restrictions on the franchise. to further empower huge corporate donations in our politics. and kind of further corporate power over the lives of every single american. and so -- it kind of doesn't matter, the fact that a majority of women -- a majority of people believed christine blasey ford, a majority of

[laughter] people say are you going to run multiple terms like orrin hatch? i said if i ran as often as orrin hatch, i'd be 112. no, i'm not going to do that. [laughter] >> on russia, governor, during the 2012 campaign you famously warned of the russian threat. many dismissed your concerns. many dismissed your concerns. what should our policy towards russia be particularly in the wake of what appears to have been interference in our elections in 2016? >> and let -- mr. romney: i felt at that time, in 2016, that russia was our greatest geopolitical adversary. i wasn't expecting them to launch military action against us, but they were a geopolitical adversary. basically poking us wherever they could and supporting the world's worst actors from kim jong ununto assad and others and see them playing on that geopolitical stage at that point quite effectively as an adversary. the greatest threat, i thought, came from iran becoming nuclear. so the greatest threat to us was the nuclearization of iran and north korea. the long-term challenge, geopolitically, includes r

that was before obama announced he agreed with orrin hatch, which apparently made orrin hatch sisterhim. this is 1997. >> to my knowledge, no one, absolutely no one, disputes the following. merrick garland is highly qualified to sit on the d.c. circuit. his intelligence and his scholarship cannot be questioned. >> then there's lindsey graham invoking political calculus as part of the standard for how the senate should do its advise and consent. in fact, he used the president's favorite medium to accuse democrats of seeking a political outcome, keep the seat open, hope they win the midterms, pathetic. you may notice the strategy matches mitch mcconnell and what the republicans used. the republican strategy suggests what graeme wrote is inaccurate because dr. ford tried to speak out before kavanaugh was picked, not part of some kavanaugh conspiracy theory where the clintons are rigging the timing for the midterms. you can judge for yourself. >> just had a good meeting with judge garland. he's honest and dpabl. his reputation is beyond reproach. i've told him that i believe that the sca

if you spoke to senator orrin hatch in utah, he would say that of this land to oil and gas exploration is taking away. it could find public schools. -- fund public schools. toy hear it commitment conservation and preserving the environment. it takes away from something that is very tangible, money that could go towards educating kids in public schools. how do you answer that? >> using the same lexicon and vocabulary that he does. we can make a very defensible keeping them protected will add more economic than cutting it off, reducing it in size and selling .t off to the highest editor that is a very defensible argument. our industry, the outdoor industry collectively add to the country $870 billion a year. influentialously and create tens of thousands of jobs in the areas around the protected areas. the region in utah is a very good example of that. enjoying an economic boom because of the expansion. you can make an argument for that that supports our losses against this current administration, to reduce the size of those monuments. >> do you worry that the , divass of your advocacy wo

a group of protesters confronted senator orrin hatch. >> why aren't you brave enough to talk to us and exchange with us? don't you wave your hand at me. i wave my hand at you. >> when you grow up, i'll grow up. >> you are not grown up. >> how dare you. [ bleep ]. >> there was protests in several other cities besides washington, d.c. including new york city at trump tower and portland, oregon and san francisco. protesters demonstrating at jeff flake's office in arizona. four women arrested for there's pie -- for trespassing. >>> and in a matter of an hour, the announcement of the nobel peace prize is happening. up for the prize is kim jong-un as well as donald trump for their efforts. last year, the prize awarded to the campaign to abolish nuclear weapons. i mention you can bet on this. angela merkel is the actual favorite. a british web site has trump as 5 to 2 odds. >>> nine minutes past hour. new hacking al legations agains russia. and issues with china is undermining the u.s. what the countries have to say next. >>> 4:13 eastern time. the government of china accusing vice president

later, at the heritage foundation utah senator orrin hatch talks about the senate's advice and consent role for judicial nominations. and at 8:00 p.m. eastern, democratic senator bob mendez debates his republican opponent, bob hugin, in new jersey's u.s. senate race. on c-span2 the discussion of lanto voters in midterm elections and potential outcomes for the election, and looking back at the first two years of the trump administration. at 8:00 p.m. there's another debate between the candidates running for governor of michigan and on c-span3 supreme court justice elena cagen sits down for a conversation with the head of the american bar association. that's followed by president trump molding a campaign rally in wisconsin on behalf of u.s. senate candidate leah wikmir and governor scott walker seeking re-election. announcer: "new york times" best-selling author jody p kefment o is our guest, our live call-in program on sunday, november 4 at noon eastern. her most recent book is a spark of light. other books include small great things. the story teller. lone wolf. plus 20 more novels. sh

the heritage foundation, utah senator orrin hatch discusses the consent role for judicial nominations. and at 8 p.m., democratic senator bob menendez debates his republican opponent in new jersey's senate race. on c-span2, a discussion on the role of latino voters in the midterm elections. and political strategists discussed the potential outcomes of the election by looking back at the first two years of the trump administration. at 8 p.m., another debate between the candidates running for governor in michigan. on c-span three, supreme court justice elena kagan fits done theyou conversation with head of the american bar association, followed by president trump holding a rally in wisconsin. coming up on today's washington journal, tim story from the national conference of state legislatures, joins us to talk about how the 2018 midterms could affect redistricting over the next decade. then come a former white house communications director, anthony's koran which you, checks about his new book on president trump's connection with blue-collar workers. after

[applause] >> to go back to bear's ears for a second, if you spoke to, say, senator orrin hatch in utah, he would say that the closing off of this land to oil and gas exploration is taking away, that oil and gas exploration could fund public schools and was designated to fund public schools. and i think to some americans they hear, they hear a commitment to conservation, to preserving the environment as an abstract value that takes away from something that's very tangible; money that could go towards educating kids in public schools. and how, how to you answer that? >> well, we answer it using the same lexicon of vocabulary that he does, dollars. finish and we can make a very defensible argument that keeping bear's ears protected will administer economic value -- add more economic value than cutting it off, reducing it in size and selling it off to highest bidder in the extracted industry in oil and mining industries. and that is a very defensible argument. our industry, the outdoor industry, collectively adds to gnp of the country $870 billion a year. we are an enormously influential i

orrin hatch has not changed. chuck grassley was asked earlier this morning about why there weren't enough women senators on the judiciary committee, and his chance was they might not want to do the work. >> let's listen to chuck grassley. this was on friday, he was asked why there are no women on the republican side of the senate judiciary committee. here he is. >> do you have the sense now that you want to see a woman on the committee on the republican side? >> we can't do anything about that. you have to have a desire to serve. >> they don't want to be on the committee? >> it's a lot of work. don't forget, compared to a lot of committee meetings, we have -- we have an executive every thursday. so, it's a lot of work. maybe they don't want to do it. >> what year is it? what era is it? what decade is it? going to the rupert murdoch "wall street journal" he walks it back saying we did not mean to clarify that women can't complete the work. >> i think that's exactly what he meant to say, some smart younger staffer

>> orrin hatch says in two instances over the past few weeks, first when it was just the protesters about abortion and health care, when there was women in the hearing in the original hearing room and orrin hatch said we shouldn't have to put up with this. he used that exact same rang uage this week with regard to the accusers of brett kavanaugh. powerful men saying we shouldn't have to put up with this. we shouldn't have to, you know, listen to, absorb and in any way have our power diminished, impeded by the angry -- of these people that have less power than we do. >> i want to play what the president said today, the other half of this, too, is that there's a kind of backlash to the backlash. of sort of threatened or challenged male power. this is what the president had to say this morning about it being a scary time for men. >> while i say it's a very scary time for young men in america when you can be guilty of something that you may not be guilty of. this is a very, very -- this is a very difficult time. what's happening here has much more to do than even the appointment of the suprem

host: senator orrin hatch there on capitol hill. "barricadestweets, have been put up."e expecting people together in protest and in support of judge kavanaugh today as the senators prepared to take this key vote. limited debate at 10:30 eastern time before a vote on how they will go forward. senator susan collins saying she will not announce her final vote until 3:00 pm eastern time. to convince those undecided senators, according to "the new york times," brett kavanaugh with "theiece wall street journal." hastestimony last week commenced retired justice john paul stevens to say that he is not qualified to sit on the supreme court. the retired justice, 98 years old, talking to a small crowd in said that herday, had previously praised judge kavanaugh, but after listening his politicalt rhetoric last week and accusations made him unfit for the court. "usa today" has this headline about the impact of the fbi report that senators read yesterday. "swing voters approve fbi's work. key senators say kavanaugh inquiry seems thorough." what they are referring to is from senator j

i want you guys to check out this moment when a group of women confronted senator orrin hatch and judgedge kavanaugh. watch this. >> why aren't you brave enough to talk to us and exchange with us? don't you wave your hand at me. i wave my hand at you. >> you grow up i'll be glad. >> when you grow up? when i grow up in you talk to women that way, how dare you. how dare you! >> max, how did do you think senator hatch handled that. >> probably not very well which probably just reinforces stereotypes about clueless old out of touch white guys. i have to say that overall i think just the level of have i turp ration and partisan anger over this issue is very disquieting to me because i see it on both sides. i see a rejection of reason on both sides and it's very hard to find any kind of center here. you know, you look at democrats, for example. they were all pretty much prepared to reject kavanaugh no matter what even if he was a complete quoi boy. they were going to reject him no matter what. >> republicans don't care if the charges are true, they're still going to push for him because he wi

>>> and protesters confront senator orrin hatch over brett kavanaugh.response, grow up. >>> and a former supreme court justice speaks out, why he says kavanaugh should not be confirmed. the reporter who spoke to justice john paul stevens is my guest. let's go "outfront." >>> good evening, everyone, i'm kate bolduan in for erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, the vote is set, just

senators lindsey graham, john cornyn, orrin hatch, mike lee, ted cruz, ben sasse, jeff flake, mike crapom tillis, and john kennedy. [applause] pres. trump: thank you also to rob portman, sitting right here. [applause] pres. trump: and finally, we are indebted to senator susan collins, for her brave and eloquent speech, and her declaration that when passions are most inflamed, fairness is most in jeopardy. how true, how true. how true. [applause] pres. trump: brett kavanaugh is a man of outstanding intellect, a brilliant scholar, and his credentials are unsurpassed. a graduate of both yale college and yale law school, he has taught at harvard, at yale and georgetown. he spent 26 years of public service, and just like justice gorsuch, he clerked for justice kennedy. for the last 12 years, brett was a judge on the d.c. circuit court of appeals, widely regarded as our nations -- as our nation's second-highest court. during his tenure, he authored over 300 opinions, distinguished by their masterful and impartial reasoning. known as a judge's judge, he is a fair-minded, unbiased, and evenhande

orrin hatch told reporters the president might have to do just that.joining us now is tim o'brien. i thought we were going to listen to orrin hatch, but we're going to listen to you guys. his investigations into donald trump's financials were cited in "the new york times" report. and josh barro, both are msnbc contributors. these are big stories that digs into a few interesting issues, one of which, tim, there are all sorts of different things floating around about how rich donald trump is or how successful he is. given what the truth is if he inherited anywhere close to this kind of money or took transfers from his parents to this sort of money, he should be a lot wealthier where he is right now. >> garbage. he relied on his father to get started in the business, and he routinely relied on his father to piggy bank the problems when he wasn't doing as well. to stave off personal bankruptcy, which was accurate, he told me i gave you my word, i never borrowed money for estate. i printed that in my book, we went to court, he sued me for liable. he had to

i commend to you, by the way, a very intriguing brief i happened to run across by senator orrin hatch and it urges the court to take a second look at dual sovereignty. i'm sorry, i'm talking in code. double jeopardy. you can't charge the same person with the same crime. double jeopardy. this is a basic right under the bill of rights. but, anyway, orrin hatch, the canopy under which he writes this brief, is the overcriminalization of federal law. there's been such a vastover criminalization, as he sees it, federalizing of criminal law that the court should take a second look at the doctrine it created. there is nothing in the constitution that says there shall be dual sovereignty. it's a natural conclusion emerging from our federal structure. makes sense, right? you got a u.s. attorney, you got a district attorney. with respect to the duty of the president, you're so thoughtful in raising that question, because i do take the provocative position that it was wrong ethically for president bill clinton to side with three fraud artists, jim and susan mcdougall and jim tucker. but his law f

. -- utah's senate debate to fill the seat of orrin hatch. live on c-span 2 at 8:00, gonzalezaker debates j . here on c-span at 10:00 p.m., arizona's second congressional district debate. c-span, your primary source for campaign 2018. mayor and strategist and the fabric -- liz mair. as far as republicans go this time around, what is the message you would send to them as they reach out to potential voters? guest: if i were them, what i would try to focus on as much as humanly possible, especially because a lot of people are focusing on suburban women voters and trying to keep them in the republican cap, -- camp, -- if iity is we have were republicans, what i would be talking about is i would be talking about what was the indication of tax cuts? for most people, i think that was positive. with my own employees, when i calculate what their paychecks are, these are not people who are like 1%-ers. they are bringing more home and focusing on that can be beneficial in some places. the other thing i would focus on is trying to talk about how broken t

these women confronting orrin hatch. >> don't you wave your hand at me. i waved my hand at you. >> when you grow up -- >> when i grow up! >> reporter: all day senators filing into a room for classified briefings getting a look at the classified findings. two crucial republicans seemed satisfied with the report. susan collins saying it appears to be a thorough investigation. and jeff flake who originally called for the investigation saying it offered no additional corroborating information to back up sexual misconduct allegations against kavanaugh. but heidi heitkamp already announced her decision. >> i will be voting no on judge kavanaugh. >> for goodness sake, this is the united states of america. nobody is supposed to be guilty until proven innocent. in this country. >> so why don't we document water and see if he floats? enough. enough already. let's vote. >> reporter: democrats slamming the five-day investigation as intentionally restricted and incomplete. >> democrats agreed that the investigation scope should be limited. we do not agree that the whi

did you see orrin hatch? the video of orrin hatch dealing with them screaming in his face.grow up, he said. she was appalled. she said, how do you speak to a woman that way. i was like, yes! you have to fight back. >> thank you, donald trump. >> who do we have to thank? it isnow you know because a big part of it. who is the one person who taught us how to fight back? >> that is what i've been saying for two weeks on tv. that the reason why the establishment republicans have not been able to win a national election since 2004 is because they lacked the courage and the will and the conviction to fight back. we are in a culture war. this is a battle between the private sector and the public sector. donald trump came in with the private sector and he was unapologetically proud. he was unapologetically a man who knew what he wanted and wanted to go get it. he was unapologetically wanting to help every single man, woman, and child in this country. but it was all in contrast to the public sector. and we are fighting that today. the more republicans stand up for themselves and figh

but anyway, orrin hatch, the canopy under which he writes this brief is the over criminalization of federal law. there's been such a vast over criminalization as he sees it, federalizing of criminal law that should belong to the states that the court should take a second look at the doctrine it created. there's nothing in the constitution that says there shall be dual sovereignty. it's a natural conclusion emerging from our federal structure, makes sense, right? you have u.s. attorney. you have the district attorney. with respect to the duty of the president, you are so thoughtful and raising the question because i do take the provocative position that it was wrong ethically for president bill clinton to side with three fraud artists, jim and susan mcdougal, and jim guy tucker. but his law firm was actively involved in working against a federal prosecution. to be that raises tensions with the idea the faithful execution of the laws pick a think the president just have to as a matter of ethics and ultimate sort of ultra constitutional responsibility to say a step aside. i can't have my those

. >> i've run across by orrin hatch, an amicus brief and looking at dual sovereignty. i'm sorry i'm talking in code. double-jeopardy, you can't charge the people with the same crime. a basic right under the bill of rights. but, anyway, orrin hatch, the canopy underwhich he writes this brief is the overcriminalization of federal law and there's been such a vast over criminallizing that it should belong to the states that the court should take a second look at the doctrine it created. there's nothing in the constitution that says there shall be dual sovereignty, it's a natural conclusion emerging from our federal structure. makes sense, right? you've got a u.s. attorney, you've got a direct attorney. with respect to the duty of the preside president, you're so thoughtful in raising that question, because i do take the provocative position that it was wrong ethically for president bill clinton to side with three fraud artists, jim and susan mcdougall and tucker. but his law firm was actively involved in working against a federal prosecution. to me, that raises tensions wi

: anger and desperation on capitol hill during an ugly confrontation between republican senator orrin hatchro women, a scene playing out over and over. >> what is wrong with you? >> reporter: as protesters launch their final attempt to swing votes against supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh. >> shame on you! shame on you! >> reporter: it has become one of the most polarizing nominations in our history. >> brett and mark came into the bedroom and locked the door behind them. >> reporter: testimony that pitted christine blasey ford -- >> i was pushed onto the bed and brett got on top of me -- >> reporter: against the man she says sexual assaulted her as a teenager. >> i've never sexual assaulted anyone, not in high school, not in college, not ever. >> reporter: but the protests and the fbi investigations seem to have little impact on the partisan divide. after a critical vote in the senate today -- >> ms. collins? >> reporter: it's all but certain kavanaugh will become the next u.s. supreme court justice. >> how do you think kavanaugh will make us feel? >> reporter: today all eyes on republ

they are buying for the seat of senator orrin hatch who is retiring. the candidates discussed trade tariffs, gun laws, the supreme court confirmation process and president trump. the cook political report lists this race as solid republican. ♪ [applause] >> good evening and welcome to a debate between the two major party candidates running for utah's open seat and the united states senate. i name is bruce lindsey and it is my pleasure to moderate this evenings debate sponsored by the utah debate commission. this event held by on october 9 is part of the utah debate commission work of educating voters and to encourage the civil exchange of ideas. candidates that rahm and jenny wilson aren't with us on the campus of southern utah university at cedar city. they are competing for the use senate seat court held by orrin hatch who was is not seeking reelection. during this debate councilwoman wilson and governor romney will be responded to questions i will ask as was question submitter of utah debate commission website. we will also be taking questions from

we saw orrin hatch approached by women.p -- >> you grow up. >> how dare you talk to women that way. ainsley: she pulls the woman card, how dare you talk to a woman that way. meanwhile she is the one in his face. >> isn't it sad, ainsley. what we've lost is any kind of you know, manner. ainsley: civility. >> civilized conduct. this is so beyond the pale. this is has nothing to do with brett kavanaugh with what he did as junior in georgetown prep. this has to do with this war, this culture war that is going on. i think that this is a matter, you saw the president and response to the president. oh, i don't remember her -- yeah he did this to me. i don't remember where it was. i don't remember when it was. but i know, i think going forward there will be the resurrection of due process for people accused of these hideous acts but more importantly focusing on the court. everyone has to understand, this was about politics from the beginning. brian: i understand. >> assume here and dianne feinstein they had a fill in the blank tact

investigatio these women confronting utah republican orrin hatch. >> don't you wave your han at me. i waived my hand at you. >> will you grow up? >> you gro up. >> reporter: all day senators filing into a secure room reserved for classified briefings. getting their first look at the fbi's findings that will likely determine kavanaugh's fate. two crucial republican senators seemed satisfied with the report. susan collinsea saying it a to be a very thorough investigation and >> jefjeff flag who called for the investition saying it offered no corroboration. saying heidi heitkamp is announcing her decision. >> i will be voting no on judge kavanalih. >> repns saying the findings vindicate kavanaugh. >> for goodness sake this is the united states of america. i nobody supposed to be guilty until proven innocent. inhis country. >> so why don't we dunk him in water and s if he floats? enough, enough already. let's vote. y> reporter: democrats slamming the five investigation as intentionally restricted and co lete. >> democrats agreed that the investigatn scope should be limited. we do not ag

so you've got orrin hatch there not surprisingly saying that he doesn't see anything wrong with the u.s. president i mean the message there is that republicans don't see any need to find common ground and he's saying that with less than two weeks before the midterm elections that can't bode well for unity and the unity that the president has been espousing to disease and can it. yeah you nailed it that this all smacks a little bit still after today. political calculus there is no way and basically that this country in its political discourse in its divisiveness in this in the deep deep deep split it experiences politically and between democrats and republicans conservatives and liberals on both sides that this country unifies and as you just see the republicans and the g.o.p. as well as president trump they in the last few weeks used the that kevin or kevin o. was successfully made and confirmed as a supreme court justice to rally up their base the president use the caravan of immigrants or refugees might say from the mall and. on their way to through mexico and soon it looks like at th

i will read you something tha senator orrin hatch, republican on the judiciary committee, wrote in "the wall street journal" today, "we are seeing arguments like the following guest even if judge kavanaugh i innocent and what he said at the hearing is disqualified. this is a rich. the hearing occurred in the first place only because of democratic duplicity." how do you respond? sen. coons: it is always appropriate to question if someone has the right judicial temperament if they have the urunme, aggressive, and clearly partisan outburst that judge kavanaugh had -- it was not an outburst, it was a planned, written, and fiercely delivered addressed directed at the democrats on the judiciary committee last week. katty:e i've spoken to s your democratic colleagues in the center who areoncerned that this is hurting democrats, that they are seeing thefr poll number particularly democrats like claire mccaskill, who are running in conservative states, seeing their approval ratings being hurt, thancthere is a c of a republican backlash, republican motivator because of this whole kavanaugh cocase