uh, orson welles was saying, "screw all of this. i'm going to reinvent movies."nd, well, they got rid of him. and then, you know, with the nouvelle vague and then with bertolucci finally... this has now taken root in hollywood which is why hollywood is so anxious and confused at the moment because they know they have to give money to spike lee and to quentin tarantino and they don't like that fact. eventually they can co-opt them, hopefully. or make money off of them and hold their nose while they do it. uh, now the question i'm trying to ask is are these guys really mavericks or has hollywood style... is there no more hollywood style? or is perhaps the very notion of hollywood style fluid enough, elastic enough to be able to incorporate some of... that's what i think's happened. the umbrella's getting wider and i think hollywood is ready to move a bit outside its realm. i don't really agree that executives hold their nose because these are younger guys. they're sort of hip or fancy themselves sort of hip and they like to have dinner with quentin tarantino. if th

she says that before she met you, shared friends described you as like the hillbilly orson welles. fantastic phrase. how do you feel about being called the hillbilly oarson welles. >> i guess if she means my mind or my body. but, no, i mean that's pretty cool. actually the person who coined that phrase for me was robert duval. >> was it really? >> yeah. so i think she picked up on that from him. but, sure, i'd rather be called that than a lot of other things. >> she says that she went to a theater alone full of strangers, engrossed in sling blade. i just want to play a clip from that movie and say what she said about it because it was really interesting. >> my mother, she jumped up and hollered what did you kill j.c. for, what did you kill j.c. for? i don't rec on my mother minded what jesse was doing to her. i reckon that made me madder than what jesse made it. some folks call it a sling blade, i call it a kaiser blade. then i hit my mother upside the head with it. killed her. >> utterly compelling performance there. i remember watching it. but she watched it alone, like i say, in

. >> orson welles said don't give people what you think they want. give them something that they never thought possible. >> which is exactly what apple did. >> you're a stanford guy and there is that great book "built to last." clock builders versus time keepers. the change at apple, do you look optimistically at the furor was it a cult of personality? >> i think product plans are like apple, they're probably set 18 months in advance? so for the next year i think it's kind of office that iphone should be 4 g lpg by now. with all the wonderful innovation and coolness, it's kind of embarrassing, iphone is 3 g. i have a samsung, they are both 4 g and much better system. so they better be. i think it's logical that you build an seven-inch ipad because the ten -inch--i use a seven-inch tablet and my calculation it's the largest taplet i can use that when i fall asleep and it falls on my face, it doesn't hurt me. a ten-inch would hurt you. >> didn't steve fight against that? >> he did. >> from our perspective of the first time, they violateed the jobs rule