circles in the senate, about whether there's more room for tax revenue, to break the grover nor quist ortho docks pledge on taxes. so paul ryan represents the gop insurgeancy in the house. but i don't know that there's a mandate there yet. i do know this. i think there's no question in this bright red line between these two campaigns is risky. you're now talking about putting medicare on the table in a way that can advantage the president and which by the way republicans already knew it was coming. now you have in the picture the romney-ryan ticket. you think about a state like florida where that's going to matter. so that's where the risk is. >> democrats are champing at the bit. there's a new book with the middle class, a third of it is devoted to attacking the ryan budget. david, i want to jump to kelly o'donnell, kelly, you've got a little bit more context to how rob portman was informed about the vp selection. >> well, chuck, i've been told rob portman did receive a phone call from governor romney tonight letting him know that he would not be the choice. rob portman will go ahead with