as a successor states are members of the russian orthodox church. which is low ship days she said the numbers have risen from one thousand nine hundred percent to seventy five percent in the last twenty five years. and over forty percent of them do not believe in god or in the so or in the last judgment. they believe in none of these dogmas. to be seen as a believer it's sufficient to call yourself orthodox or russian. government. today's state is very closely connected to the church it's turned to the church and gained additional legitimacy as a result. the church on the other hand supports it and wraps up everything ideologically by saying the regime has been chosen as the patriarch kirill did when he declared putin's appearance and a sense of power to be a divine miracle children. i would say that the relationship between the church mander state today is like a symphony the church has not had so much freedom in its entire history. by this time bloody mary putin who claims he was baptized in secrecy back in the soviet era was firmly in the saddle

after the uprising in greece the orthodox christians in the empire saw themselves as one people with a common language and history as a greek nation that wanted an independent state. it was an example for the other minorities in the ottoman empire and one that had huge explosive power. the empire's enemies were aware of this. under the pretext of wanting to protect christians who were being oppressed in this muslim empire france great britain and russia supported the greek separatists. they all fancied alterman territories in europe and in asia greece was a strategic significance thanks to its central location on the mediterranean particularly for russia which wanted to control shipping routes in the mediterranean sea. yes. that's a bit of an excess now my face is we mustn't forget that the foreign powers in the region were rivals the interests of france great britain and russia were frequently in conflict to have these policies were always teaming up against the third greece was the location where these complex played out in particular with regard to the interests of great britain t

he, like front for her, grew up in an orthodox family. -- it was more at his wife's behest. there was no practice of judaism in his home. -- and thisis wife led to the scandal that led to his resignation -- he and his his wife had950's, extremely lavish lifestyle. s.ey had twin rolls-royce 's wife had one closet of 150 shoes. offered by lbj to be attorney general. his wife said not on my life. he would have had to take such a big salary cut. he took a 90% salary cut to be on the court. his wife was livid. -- he hadeard this thaten two letters to lbj he would not accept an appointed to the court. to the ovalted him office to have a discussion. it was about the vietnam policy that he was an advisor on. he said join me, i'm going to the rose garden. there is an announcement i have to make. on the way over, i'm announced wife, i'mand his going to appointed to the court. there was nothing they could do. his wife was livid and furious. she calls the white house. one of the white house aides said they had never heard anyone talk to lyndon johnson like that. she berated him for half

so if you know anything about orthodox christianity, that is not orthodox. that is heresy. so in his personal life he's moved into a more unitarian position. but it's not an atheist position. he continues to believe that god, the cree year, the natural law, the endow her of rights he continues to believe intervenes in human affairs, and intervenes on the cause of right as witherspoon's sermon points out. the dominion of providence over the passions of men. the dominion of province means that god acts, he interposes in the world, and he has a number of instances where he thinks the british are trying to -- pardon me -- they have an ill will toward the americans and god sort of turns the circumstances in such a way that even their evil intentions turn out for the good of the americans. yes? >> i was just wondering. i work at the jewish museum in new york, and for a while i think it was just a fascsimile of a letter that washington road to the first synagogue for members of the americans and a country that will always protect the religious freedom. just wondering if you knew a

although he grew up in orthodox-jewish home, as a teenager, he was no longer a religiously practicingew and never stepped into a jewish synagogue in his adult life, except to give a talk. in his will, on the nose to his wife and friends, he asked that the traditional jewish prayer of mourning be recited in hebrew by a law clerk who became a distinguished professor at columbia university and he was a son of one of the preeminent orthodox rabbis. frankfurter was an agnostic and was always so impressed by henkin taking the sabbath and he considered him this his only close friend who was a practicing orthodox jew and he said, you know, i came into this world as a jew and i lived most of my life not as a jew, but want to leave as a jew. the rest citation was a link to that tradition. -- the recitation was a link to that tradition. . brian: you say that frankfurter began the 18 jewish clerk. she appointed coleman. david: in became a leader of the american bar and there is an interesting footnote here. in 1959, albert sachs, who recommended law clerks, recommended a credentialed young woman

he, like frankfurter, grew up in an orthodox family. it was more at his wife's behest.e had a little more interest, but there was no practice of judaism in his home. but what he said here is very revealing. he and his wife -- and this led to the scandal that led to his resignation -- he and his wife in the 1950's, his wife had an especially extremely lavish lifestyle. they had twin olls-royces. his wife had in one closet alone 150 pairs of shoes. he had been offered by lbj to be attorney general. his wife said, not on my life. you can't. he would have had to take such a big salary cut. he took a 90% salary cut to be on the court. his wife was livid. in fact, when she heard this -- he had written two letters to lbj saying he would not accept an appointed to the court. johnson invited him to the oval office to have a discussion. it was about the vietnam policy that he was an advisor on. he said join me, i'm going to the rose garden. there is an announcement i have to make. on the way over, unbenknownst to fortas and his wife, he said i'm appointing you to the supreme cour

many consider themselves orthodox believers but in reality they do not live in an orthodox way. today more than one hundred fifty million people in the u.s.s.r. as a successor states are members of the russian orthodox church. the numbers have risen from nineteen percent to seventy five percent in the last twenty five years. and over forty percent of them do not believe in god or in the so or in the last judgment. they believe in none of these dogmas. to be seen as a believer it's sufficient to call yourself orthodox russian. government. today state is very closely connected to the church it's turned to the church and gained additional legitimacy as a result. the church on the other hand supports it and wraps up everything ideologically by saying the regime has been chosen as the pottery a carol did when he declared putin's appearance and a sense of power to be a divine miracle. i would say that the relationship between the church mander state today is like a symphony the church has not had so much freedom in its entire history. by this time bloody mary putin who claims he was b

but behind the railings the mystical world of orthodox belief was preserved shimmering mysteriously in the depths of the room is the high screen or icon of stacey's. the own distress goes on the pillars and walls go back to the thirteenth century the russians took over not only the faith of the byzantine church but also its images. image that's what i call means. here's one of st john the evangelist the images of the saints were not regarded as fantasy pictures. the arrangement of the figures and stories on the icon of states this was strictly laid down the t.-a of saints apostles and prophets who were venerated as mediators of god's grace and every overdubs believe the knew them by name for they appeared in the same order in every orthodox church. one. sent mary our protectors and into assessing the oldest change of the former principality still standing erected not far from vladimir in eleven fifty six. no way can the form and spatial idea of russian medieval sacred architecture be see more clearly than in this change built in pailin stone its walls today on painted it rises graceful

we're joined with jake, political director for the orthodox union. jake, welcome to chasing news. >> thank you for having me. tell me about the rallies. they are all upset and taken to the streets. what are you doing what you hope to accomplish? >> back in september mayor diblasio route had announcement that he was going to have a free and nutritious lunch to every student in new york city, whether they're in public school or charter school. he made this announcement and then he said i'm suv kosher or hello, and then you are out of luck. >> is that based on cost? they might say well you complaining about? your free lunches, you can accommodate everybody. who should take up the at a cost? >> it is not based on cost. i'll tell you a secret the mayor doesn't want you to know. he is taking advantage of a federal program which allows the entire city, every student to access this program. the same every student is eligible to have a free lunch unless you you kosher. >> the government doesn't like muslims or jews or is there some reason for making it standa

you've got ultra-orthodox, you've got orthodox, you got traditional, you got secular. what four? what are you talking about? - we have at least six, seven, eight. - well, i know you have 22. - but those are big factions. - yeah. and i'm curious how you can from alliances because what i've noticed just on the street and in taxicabs is there are a lot of secular israelis. there are a lot of traditional israelis who have a thing against the ultra-orthodox, who think they don't work, they don't pay taxes, they don't-- they don't serve in the military. they have views on terms of social issues like gay rights that are out of step. so how do you form a coalition where you've got these disparate groups? how do you-- how do you govern? well, by persuasion primarily. we tried a positive approach, carrots as opposed to sticks. get more and more of them going out to the job market. crucial. crucial for reducing poverty. 'cause we found that when both parents work, poverty rates decline. they just plummet. orthodox women now work as much as the general population. this is a country which has

film was blasphemous because it portrayed holy as on the killers the second in love scenes russian orthodox christians even made death threats to the director and lead actor now matilda has arrived in german sentiments and we'll ask the burning question was the film worth all the fuss. so little is the second as he's never been portrayed before. it's eighteen ninety four and the young heir apparent has no desire to ascend the throne . speaking to us. still unmarried he embarks on a tempestuous love affair with a young ballerina. the real tara nicolas the second was executed by bolshevik troops in july one thousand nine hundred eighteen in the wake of the october revolution that marked an end to the monarchy in russia ushering in a new era in two thousand the tsar was declared a saint by the russian orthodox church to be especially devout that makes him untouchable they have strongly denounced the film without having seen it the lead role is played by german actor lars. and going to mcmahon six are the country stars . the producers of the project with a twenty five million euro budget wanted

the monarchy in russia ushering in a new era in two thousand was declared a saint by the russian orthodox church to be especially devout that makes him untouchable they have strongly denounced the film without having seen it the lead role is played by german actor lars iding and going on from a country the country stars. the producers of the project with a twenty five million euro budget wanted idea for the role after seeing him give a guest performance at a theater in moscow he's still not sure why he was chosen. by theo and why did they pick me why is lost i being a from berlin playing nicholas the second goal whilst russians are. at the film's moscow premiere director alexiou to tell appeared relaxed despite a slew of death threats against his actors religious fanatics wanted to prevent the film from being released their protests have sparked months of debate in the press and on the streets. there have been attacks cars and cinemas set on fire. than driven into a movie theatre death threats kept laws i had enough from attending the premier. this and. there have been rewards offered for

well, i think in adam's personal life he moves from being what we would call in orthodox squish -- orthodox christian to be unitarian later in his life. reason to be confident in asserting your religious liberty which is more than mere there is a patriot sermon. we don't have the loyalists. we have john wesley. the founder of methdism, famously is against the american revolution. he thinks it's an unjust war and an unbiblical war. if you go through, as a number of patriot preachers did, old testament and new testament biblical texts, it's more difficult in the new testament to find explicit sanction for resisting civil authority. it's difficult to do. dr. dries balk mentioned rule -- romans 13. and that, one has to make a logical argument out of the text and say, if the ruler is no longer acting, for filling or is her god ordained role of rewarding good and punishing evil. if they have somehow inverted that, then you are justified, they are no longer true and your justified in resisting or rebelling. but that's an ilogical argument. you can't find in the explis st text, that sanctions a reb

the orthodox church as one hundred fifty million members and it wields power across the former republics. condemned by the church as has been open again for the last twenty five years and they're always fully in spite of almost one hundred years of godlessness and the soviet government's attempts to destroy religion sick of it. but the search for meaning and values hasn't led only to a resurgence of religion fame and a radical feminist activist group founded in ukraine is anything but pious topless for freedom they call themselves extremists and of pledge to fight patriarchy in the sexual exploitation of women in all its forms. die is considered yes there is conservatism and there is patriarchy but at the same time our society is ready to accept and create something new something new something different from western european values. but not all the former soviet republics wanted to be different from the west some like the baltic states wanted to become part of it. estonia latvia and lithuania made the greatest efforts to draw away from russia to eventually join the e.u. and nato and beca

josef tefari of the mary's orthodox church located in aurora, colorado. deacon josef was raised in ethiopia and has experienced the daily struggles to many -- to many ethiopians have faced, living in abject poverty and under an oppressive government. deacon josef fled from ethiopia in 1976 and came to the united states as a refugee. he and many of the members of the ethiopian community in my congressional district of have worked diligently to organize and assist those still suffering from repression in their home country. aromo community president of colorado, jamal, has also shared his concerns with me, and both of these gentlemen have no motives other than the concern of the safety and democracy in ethiopia. they continue to fight for democracy in their homeland. unfortunately, stories like this are not uncommon in my district, and i am disappointed that the house has not yet scheduled a floor vote on house resolution 128. i note that on two prior occasions, a vote was tentively scheduled. in both of these instances it's my understanding the vote was po

mccarthy i read scares of the twentieth century where anyone who was thought to be this time not an orthodox christian but a communist was somehow tied in with russia it all goes back to something healthier john mccain and spoke about in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century whereby the western imperialist powers would need to do you russia as a pivot area if they were able if they were going to succeed and they're all to meet desire which is the conquest of asia now this highfalutin some would say historical analysis is the basis of the hatred the way the hatred is expressing itself is in the most crass and most pedestrian most vulgar guttural ways possible where we see people going off were violated no law our t. has not been accused in a court of law of libel which is really the only test for fake news everything else is covered by the first amendment in the us and other similar free speech laws in other countries no one has accused me of doing anything wrong except for the fact that people are watching on t.v. and or t. has an opinion and these opinions go against the corporate

film was blasphemous because it portrayed holy as on the killers the second in love scenes russian orthodox christians even made death threats to the director and lead actor now matilda has arrived in german sentiments and we ask the burning question was the film worth all the fuss to. our littlest the second as he's never been portrayed before. it's eighteen ninety four and the young heir apparent has no desire to ascend the throne as part of last week and we're. still unmarried he embarks on a tempestuous love affair with a young ballerina. the real tara nicolas the second was executed by bolshevik troops in july one thousand nine hundred eighteen in the wake of the october revolution that marked an end to the monarchy in russia ushering in a new era in two thousand the tsar was declared a saint by the russian orthodox church to be especially devout that makes him untouchable they have strongly denounced the film without having seen it the lead role is played by german actor lars iding and going to die mcmansion exile the country does. the producers of the project with a twenty five milli

now this is a lawsuit in as the school board dominated eight out of nine members who are orthodox jews where their kids go largely to private schools and they are being sued saying the at-large system of electing these guys is disenfranchising black and latino families who make up most of the be blick school students. ashley johnson has the full story. ashley? reporter: the new york civil liberties yun has filed a lawsuit in east ramapo, new york, challenging the method for eling members of the board of education. the majority of the school board are orthodox jewish parents whose children attend private schools. the method to the ability to elect candidates of their choice. the new york stiff civil liberties union says the board favors private education versus public. in 2014, 200 teachers were utthe district. the suit says the cuts lead to a precipitous decline in school equality. >> the lack of resources. books, textbooks, for example. you know, can you not expect a child to be able to learn if, you know, their materials in which they are using to learn are not readily available. bla

grace and every overdubs believe the knew them by name for they appeared in the same order in every orthodox church. her. sent mary our protectors and into assessing the oldest change of the former principality still standing erected not far from vladimir in eleven fifty six. no way can the form and spatial idea of russian medieval sacred architecture be seen more clearly than in this change built in pale limestone its walls today on painted it rises gracefully above its square ground. perfect symmetry this architectural jewel with its delicate blind arcades and facade old moments managed to come through the mongol devastations miraculously unscathed legend maintains that the protective veil of the madonna lay over the church dedicated to her in the meadows on the banks of the river no. past and present pictures from the town of soused today. the intell is deceptive today those who can't grow their own food with some left over to sell at the market have hardly enough to live on. in the old days it wasn't just sunflower seeds and a few home grown vegetables that was sold against this magnific

was just the latest demonstration against a recent court decision to lift an exemption for ultra orthodox jews allowing them to skip israel's mandatory army draft several members of the religious minority have been arrested and jailed as a result including eleven students sentenced this week to a ninety day prison term failing to report to medically service serving in the military has long been a controversial topic for ultra orthodox jews they argue that their religious studies are more important. of our top stories this hour i'll be back at the top of the hour with more. r.t. america was required to register as a foreign agent i have prominent media outlets and civil liberties groups largely silent also making sense of saudi and lebanese politics and about american football . i'm after a time here we're going underground just twenty four hours away from m.p.'s checking their pockets and going through the books as they announce the details of last month's political donations coming up in the show we are asking wiki leaks lawyer if despite denials the u.k. crown prosecution service on the

at least twenty two ultra-orthodox jews have been arrested in israel after protesting the jailing of eleven men of the community accused of dodging military service. yes. this was just the latest demonstration against a recent court decision to lift an exemption for ultra or for job docs to use allowing them to skip israel's mandatory army draft several members of the religious minority have been arrested and jailed as a result including eleven students sentenced this week to a ninety day prison term for failing to report to military service serving in the military has long been a controversial topic for ultra orthodox jews they argue that their religious studies a more important. now to round up all of our top stories this hour you can find us all over social media so make sure you check us out i'll be back at the top of the hour with more news so do stay with us. cryptocurrency doesn't really need to replace the u.s. dollar plays the euro it just needs to survive while those behemoths collapse under their own weight and that's when the top and it's going to go sometimes. she'll be

there's a tradition of those who have taken orthodox christian viewpoints to fight against injustice, stand against sl slavery, to support gay people, to support justice in this world. what you have is a hoax. it can take on the semblance of religion. all she thinks christian values and i pray for her, somebody ten commandments and somebody against gay people. the reality is you're looking at the continual manifestation of slave master religion that was used in all kinds of ways to justify wrong. you're looking at the manifestation of the spiritual mobilization campaign. big money put a lot of money behind it. you're looking at the same kind of religion that said that segregation was christian. that was the same kind of language they told poor whites if you fought in the civil war and died it was actually a blessing kind of death. it has been -- what we're dealing with is the audience that's been cultivated for years and particularly around this roy moore piece for the a massive hoax. the problem is it's a true christian thought would not have supported roy moore before all of this. t

destroyed destroyed in many ways i mean i'm thinking of the orthodox church ok lot of people don't understand how much russian survived because of the pursuit of utopia in an ideology or. culture was destroyed but. an alternative was put in place yes i mean there was we're still here ok it was a return it was a reconstruction of culture a culture. which wasn't wasn't completely part of me which actually persists in these times and i i personally i don't believe in utopias and i don't think that communism is the answer to day to the problems today but i personally don't want to live in a world where we stop fighting to create a better world that's a really good point and i want to just a quote here perhaps you'll recognize real quick because i think it's time. people no longer obsess over the accumulation with things we've limited hunger want the need for possessions we've grown out of our infancy that's the famous communist explorer and commander john carr of the starship enterprise. we need star fleet in for a flag here gentlemen were brought out of time absolutely fascinating discussion i w

protestant lutheran churches have been closed along with many belonging to the majority russian orthodox faith. an air of celebration at a normal sunday service the last one before this evangelical lutheran congregation in moscow officially gets its church back. lutherans are religious minority here in russia most in the community have german roots their ancestors came to russia centuries ago on the invitation of the czars who promised land and religious freedom but later the soviet government persecuted lutherans and seize church property including this cathedral. the community led by archbishop. has been using it again since the fall of the soviet union but so far it has remained russian government property. it's like someone started living in europe and it's not yours anymore. you turn up the whole time you have the feeling that it isn't just. at any point it could end up in government hands or rather hands. but now it's ours it feels like home again. so. in the officially atheist soviet union many churches were repurposed from nine hundred thirty seven this cathedral was used as a mo

. >> are you orthodox catholic?uestion at a con confirmation hearing and basically said if you are too orthodox in your religious belief maybe you don't have the ability to serve on the nation's highest court but now trump is raising raising raising raising the ante and has been confirmed to appellate court bimpleg. now on the list for the higher court and i think in part the democrats gave her such a hard time because they feel she may be elevated. >> trump is taunting the democrats about this. what you also see is the justices that made the list are also very young, most of them are in their 30's, early 40's, bret is 52 and that also goes well for the binge. >> the rule of thumb you don't want somebody to serve 40 years, mid-50 seems to be the cutoff. unfortunately for those of us we must give up aspirations to serve. >> you can't have everything. [laughter] >> let's extend this point. there are a lot of people who have problems with donald trump personally during election it was expected that he couldn't possibly

they had no illusions they can achieve their purpose by -- easterns, jews, orthodox. they had no illusions they could achieve their purpose by staying isolated in the world. they believed that a durable peace depended on the united states forging a relationship with other nations. foraps we should thank them their service, too. sadly the moral equivalent of war is more elusive now then when james was playing. it is a grim judgment and a short judgment. james wrote, history is a path of blood -- history is a bath of blood. only were we recognize that an arm ourselves can we be able someday to change it. thank you. [applause] >> again, ladies and gentlemen, michael kazin is going to take questions. there are some lovely and well let microphones on either side of these stage. i have heard some really delightful discussions. i know that there might be wonderful questions at hand. >> thank you for a very fine talk. lots of good and useful stuff. i might suggest that you -- i'm not sure i: can hear you. >> closer to the mic. you for a fine talk. if you might consider adding

thank you time now for some of the other stories making news around the world israel's ultra-orthodox health minister has resigned after a dispute over the sabbath the jewish day of rest yacov let's not call the government's approval of saturday railway maintenance work a desecration of the sabbath but his party will find now staying prime minister binyamin netanyahu is fragile coalition. a monitoring group says at least fifty seven people have been killed in airstrikes by russian and government forces in syria russia said its bombers hit targets linked with the islamist state the syrian military pounded sites in rebel held eastern ghouta near damascus this despite the area falling within a so-called deescalation zone. twenty two people were injured when a dance floor collapsed and screams canary islands most of those hurt suffered broken bones and bruises when part of the floor fell into the building's basement police have launched an investigation into the incident. of ok no on the international island of bali has had a series of eruptions mt sent ash and steam six thousand meters i

israel's ultra-orthodox health minister has resigned after a dispute over the the jewish day of rest. called the government's approval of saturday railway maintenance work a desecration of the sabbath but his party will for now stay in prime minister's benyamin netanyahu is fragile coalition. a monitoring group says at least fifty seven people have been killed in airstrikes by russian and government forces in syria russia said its bombers hit targets linked with the islamic state group the syrian military pounded sites in rebel held eastern area near damascus this despite the area falling within a so-called deescalation zone. let's look at all the sports action now and we begin with the bundesliga where hamburg secured some much needed points with a surprise win over hoffenheim oftentimes got off to a nightmare start when they conceded an own goal after just six minutes philip cost stitch then made a made it to kneel in the second half and give you a new young sealed the win for humbug with another goal just before the final whistle three meal was how it ended. and it was a spectacula

israel's ultra-orthodox health minister has resigned after a dispute over the sabbath the jewish day of rest. colds the government's approval of saturday railway maintenance work a desecration of the sabbath but his party will for now stay in prime minister benjamin netanyahu is fragile coalition. pope francis is set to visit me on mar and bangladesh on monday the plight of the range of muslims is expected to loom large over his six day trip hundreds of thousands have fled to bangladesh in the wake of alleged persecution from the myanmar army on thursday the two countries agreed to begin returning the refugees within two months but many were then just say they don't want to go back. fatima the two and does what she can to keep her flimsy shed clean life is hard as a refugee and the memories of what she saw in me and my whole entire continuum. here she demonstrates how me and my troops and legibly through door hinge your children into fire. number one. but now after an agreement between bangladesh and me and my hundreds of thousands of bro he could be headed home in the next two month

as orthodox prayer merges with the sense of burning incense, you can almost feel yourself being liftedis one place where heaven meets hell, it is here, for this is known as the church on the blood. people were murdered here. the victims now elevated to saints, tsar nicholas ii and his family. in a house where the church now stands, they and their most loyal servants were executed. the bolsheviks shot and bayonetted them. it was a bloody and brutal end to russia's last tsar. having murdered the tsar, the bolsheviks tried to conceal their crime and bury all memory of the monarchy. but they failed. it took 60 years, but eventually, deep in this forest near yekaterinburg, a discovery was made. found here, what were believed to be the remains of emperor nicholas ii and his family. in 1998, russia's government confirmed the authenticity. and nicholas, his wife, alexandra, three of their children, and four of their staff, were laid to rest. later, more bones were found in the same forests, believed to be the tsar‘s missing son and daughter. the church, though, has not recognised the remains,

as orthodox prayer merges with the sense of burning in incense, you can almost do yourself being liftedven meets hell, it is here. this is known of the church of the blood. people were murdered here. tsar nicklaus the second and his family. in a church, they and their most loyal servants were executed. the bolsheviks shot and been —— stabbed them. it was a brutal and to the last tsar. having murdered the tsar, they tried to bury all memory of the monarchy. but they failed. it took 60 years, but eventually, deep in this forest, a discovery was made. found here were what were believed to be the remains of emperor nicholas ii and his family. in 1998, the government of russia confirmed the authenticity. and nicholas, his wife, their children, and four staff, were laid to rest. later, more bones were found in the same forests, believed to be the missing son and daughter of the tsar. the church has not recognised the remains, though, by that made the changing. -- but that may. we have new technology. there isa may. we have new technology. there is a strong chance the church will recognise the

so we're finding this -- finding out it's fairly orthodox, as tragic as that sounds. i'm also from the videos there, i'm seeing an be a external security camera at the church that might show an area in front of the church where he stood. i who really like to see if that camera was going on. i'm more enlightened how the attack went down that he went in and had a lot of time in it. the early accounts he was actually outside the building firing in, make no sense with the 223 because it's not really going to do much once you fire through walls. >> and also not only with went in, but had the ballistic vest on, wearing all black and put on a mask that had a white skull on the front of it. what's your takeaway right now. >> the black mask thing is new information. i hadn't heard that before. that shows the level of what this guy was trying to carry out. i think when it's said and done having been involved in a lot of complex investigations, and i don't mean to downplay this, but it's probably going to come down to more or less a domestic scenario. >> art -- >> i found it int