church also accused the old patriarchate of wanting to start a war against the unity of the orthodox christian church and it said that if the ukrainian autocephaly is granted you're going to stop communicating communication of with with consenting ople by doing that one won't hear fact of. fuel doubt or even more because you would effectively have to tie your cut your ties with other churches some of the churches have a have to decide whether to side with you or with constant within that make things even worse first of all we do not need to cut ties with churches if we cut ties with constantinople there are situations in which two churches are not in communion with one another but. are in communion with both of them and this is what is likely to happen but in canonical terms we will have no option because we cannot accept in the. such action on the part of constance in opal we. we'll have to respond in this way and we are already a warrant several times. that this will be one of the consequences of his actions is he supposed to announce his final decision i mean in a formal way i think somewhe

that all christians in the russian federation should belong to the russian orthodox church and if you would say that the roman catholic church in russia. is no longer welcome you should join the russian national church if you are petri what's then it will be a clear intervention into the into the internal life or the church's or if for example prison put in would dictate who should be or who should we lived as bishops this will be the intervention such intervention is an image in the book. now both russia and ukraine trace their history from kievan rus reaches i thing an interesting title because it merges together the concepts of geography and identity and from moscow geography has always been transit and secondary but not so much for constantin opel and kia for consumption opel for example its whole supremacy claim is based on the fact that the orthodox christianity was born in geographic locale and i think the ukrainians advancing a similar argument that. christians christians were there before moscow was even found that and why should than it has it have any demeaning and over us

of for consumption opal for example its whole supremacy claim is based on the fact that the orthodox christianity was born in geographic locale and i think the ukrainians advancing a similar argument that. christians christians were there before moscow was event found that and why should it has it have any demeaning and over us what's your response to that. i should underline that there is ness in the bed in the fully itself the russian orthodox church at some point was a part of the major gate of constantinople then. it became an outer surface church and it didn't ask for their consent to nobble permission i didn't ask for the permission of constantinople because at that time the preacher called constance you know paul was in the union was wrong which according to the russian church was here is so the preacher core of consent in op was a heretic there was no one to ask listen from. by itself there is nothing bad in the it but the problem for the ukraine currently is that it is not the ukrainian orthodox church of the united two crania north of the church will who are in the to safely it is that

meanwhile the orthodox christians are holding a memorial service at their church. was. here they remember the victims of the resistance fighters was a it. was. just they don't want any new heroes here they simply want to practice their faith in peace. or you know. this is the village of. about ten kilometers away. in january one thousand nine hundred six remodelled rise and his men set several buildings on fire here sixteen local residents were killed in the march and i know of khan has reawakened painful memories of those crimes. claudio was four years old at the time of the incident she's frightened by the recent nationalist demonstrations she we all lost that new job there was a woman who was nine months pregnant leon like you know plenty and her body was burning we saw her later the talk of get up she gave us the she was moaning and moaning. it was too late to save her i think about that every day and again and again i see the flames. i'll see the flames until the day i die and there. well means you mom don't go in that was then but afterward we lived peacefully wit

muscular brand of orthodox christianity is very evident. east which the got to get it's pretty obvious from the. piece they used. so i still got thirty it's going to start of the former for best i know aren't. what are so. small rocks or a cough or frequently compared to near a node c.s. they are unashamedly nationalistic and say critics openly intolerant of other faiths. teach st. i see it takes. some time. before mr aslaksen at low level to. address your. sorrow or deploy to deter protesters as church construction sites. but they are a must see. but the opposite slows books. about this which by the put there are six laws book for them but they would put more liberal elements within the church feel uneasy about the patriarchs links to such groups. should go move the observer system in the bush we sleep in the you chris. unchr that you so that english was full just when the concorde. what the question you're still to deal with cesc shows the other two or some of these works of. the chemo guy gets around the local corner of the school get th

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their own of muscular brand of orthodox christianity is very evident. it's. just the thought of it it's pretty. obvious they used to. so i still got that i need of the best i know aren't. sorel cough or frequently compared to near no one sees they are unashamedly nationalistic and say critics openly intolerant of other faiths. st. i see it. before mr aslaksen at low level the. address you. saw. or deployed to deter protesters as church construction sites. or see it. but the opposite slows book. about this which by the put the office laws book david david david brooks more liberal elements within the church feel uneasy about the patriarchs links to such groups. should go movement observer system when the bush recently launched the i mean they you. this is just new in the computer. world the question your. shows the other two are some of the swish of. the chemo kind it's a crown the harvest their. values who criticize wrong doing from within the church can face chilling consequences. the new kid scheme ministry is russia's oldest. when a former monk mikhail bot

think about how radically different approach towards understanding of man is that even say an orthodox christian view of man which is basically grounded in unity. at the same time, the doctrine of original sin. the idea that we are bent by selfishness in need of love and forgiveness but checked on pride and power. in contrast therapeutic model comes more from the idea that we are inherently good. we need to be liberated from societal constraints and free to self actualize . is the therapeutic model compatible with the sustaining of liberal democracy? if so, how and if not, what can we do? >> so the decline for the shared religious moral horizon is related to the rise of the therapeutic function so the fundamental text in this line of literature is a book in the late 60s,the rise of the therapeutic society and that's what he said . he said that previously you went to a priest or a pastor for counseling about anxiety that you had about your parents, about your job, the way you dealt with your neighbors and with the decline of formal religion playing that kind of role, people then turned to psychoa

about how radically different that approach towards understanding of man is than even say an orthodox christian view of man, which is basically grounded in dignity, stamped on us, at the same time, the doctrine of original sin, the idea that we are bent by selfishness, in need of both love and forgiveness but checks on pride and power. in contrast, the therapeutic model as you spelled out in your book kind of comes more from your soul, the idea that actually we're inherently good, we need to be liberated from societal constraints and free to self-actualize. is the therapeutic model compatible with a sustaining of liberal democracy? if so, how? if not, what then do we do? [laughter] >> so the decline of the shared religious moral horizon is related to the rise of the therapeutic model. so, you know, the fundamental text in this line of literature is the book in the late 60s "the rise of the therapeutic society". that's what he said. he said that, you know, previously you went to a priest or a pastor, you know, for counselling about anxieties that you had about your marriage, about your job, abou

means to be muslim serb means to be orthodox and creationist speak christian. before the war it didn't matter what religion you were. i. must leave them to look at the extra fifty fifty. years you have which i give you. and. if there is a grand jury prize present at my house i think. this is a fairly good from current understanding. i . am not a bit but if this is the barracks have building. they should make it into a museum. i didn't burst out of fighting here during the war she was the dividing line. must. have been you know was. the marathon starts at this point in time in her love so now it's not about division it's about unity. feel free. thank. you. if your eyes were sparkling with coke it's the first time i've seen you like this since we arrived in beirut and it was in. the. u.k. in the last with over forty thousand people who believe in the message of peace. who believe in making a difference so all sports. the cook is another. name which i think the transformation is being fueled from many different directions. we have a lot is changing. but people are

means to be muslim serb means to be orthodox and creationists be christian. before the war it didn't matter what religion you were. leaving children. this is the eternal sixty six. years you have to. do. it. and there is a grand jury prize presented by last i think. this is a film i can see from parents and understanding to assume and. i . meant. that if this is the barracks have building. you know should make it into a museum. there was a lot of fighting here during the war it was the dividing line. that you know was. the marathon starts at this point it's good. so now it's not about division it's about unity. feel fear. fear. thank. you. your eyes sparkling with hope it's the first time i've seen you like this since we arrived in beirut and it was a still need. of that. you came to my life with over forty thousand people who believe in the message of peace . who believe in making a difference who supports. to cook is another really what i think the transformation is being fueled from many different directions that we have a lot is changing more people are v

it roughly ten percent of the population is christian mainly adherence of the coptic orthodox church and many feel oppressed by the muslim majority even on the football field. a training session like any other in alexandria obstacles sprints and dribbles. most of these young players are coptic christians. yes we offers these youngsters the chance to train a chance that's not easy to come by here in egypt. but we still have no idea i tried it three clubs and it's not like anybody told me i had to leave but i was treated very badly even when people heard my name they would be raised eyebrows and exchanged glances because my name is different i didn't feel comfortable i left. the players here are very critical of the clubs who they say discriminate against non muslim players. and i mean i've been diary gives his boys some tips the twenty two year old lives for football but he's own career was over before it had even begun. his former club wanted him to give up his christian sounding name rather than do that he gave up playing football and founded the jets we academy instead. we can cut t

means to be muslim serve means to be orthodox and question me speak christian. before the war it didn't matter what religion you were. i thought. you must leave them to look at the polls it's just sixty six down. here if you have which was you know i. can't bear the grand jury prize presented by half i think. i think this is a true from current understanding to assume and. i. meant. that if this is the barack have building. they should make it into music. yeah. there was a lot of fighting here during the war it was the dividing line. i have been you know was. the marathon starts at this point in the game in how much so now it's not about division it's about unity. for. thank you. thank you. your eyes sparkling with coke it's the first time i've seen you like this since we arrived in beirut and i was in. the. u.k. market with over four thousand people who believe in the message of peace. who believe in making a difference through sports. the cook is another name which i think the transformation is being fueled from many different directions that we have a lot is

means to be muslim serb means to be orthodox and question me speak christian. before the war it didn't matter what religion you were. i. just leave them to look at the poll results from fifty six down. here if you have which was you know. i. can't bear the grand jury prize presented by last i think i. i this is a film i get from some very understanding to assume and. i. say. that if this is the barack have building. yet i should make it into music. yeah. there was a lot of fighting here during the war it was the dividing line. you know was. the marathon starts at this point in the game in how you look so now it's not about eventually it's about unity. thank. i. know your eyes sparkling with coke it's the first time i've seen you like this since we arrived in beirut and he was in. the and. he came to my lips over forty thousand people who believe in the message of things . who believe in making a difference school sports. do cool kids on the phone for the most you. i think the transformation is being fueled from many different directions. a lot is changing. peop

from social order leaving social order to be on its own and warned as sociologist he was not christian, orthodox religious believer. of any sort, he was jewish of some time but he warned he said result of will be disastrous and we don't have time to work through what he said results would be and exposition was helpful and then the second -- in one more thing about raef he argued that when you remove sacred order or attempt to remove it in positive shaping influence on cultural institutions, and cultural products that those institutions and products in people would become what he calls deaf work. instruments of deaf indicates society instead of life and vitality. second person that i want to mention is canadian philosopher charles taylor and this is one of his books i think most important one secular age. i don't necessarily recommend that you read it unless you have migraine pills -- and you can see how big it is. i don't recommend reading in bed at night if you doze off mid-sentence you might be crushed to death. so i've read it for you for time being and let me mention briefly what taylor has

christian rules. every week a staggering one thousand new orthodox churches are either built or restored in russian. many welcome this increase including president putin seen here opening a new church with patriarch kirill the primate of moscow and all russia. but not everyone is happy. you have kenny lebedev is part of a group of parents who oppose the churches illegal seizure and why frequent utilization of a mosque a park in order to build a new church not that it will not. reach it. what it is it is not much and it shouldn't surprise you. to be sure michaelmas i said you the receipt. that you would need it but he actually not but is ready. for you on your. most sundays he and dozens of other locals gather to share their position. i. put it openly questions such developments carries a risk as any discovered in november two thousand and sixteen. his home along with eleven others was stormed by police often. as in much time raids across the capital. it's going to be a novel novel what is to the north what if you will of the bridge of being my nation when you are going to go because many of the boys

spectrum of how should i say -- repentant kgb operatives becoming fervent christians is more than amusing. furthermore, the orthodox church is a kgb front varied it has been for years peered if you look at this and if you look at the church attendance in russia, it is not very impressive. it's 3-4%. all of the stuff about russia being a christian religious country, it's not propaganda but the reality is different. however here, we have all these probes, mainly on the right. remember the photograph of flynn with the woman sitting there, that was jill stein. democrats will tell you that it may have cost a lot of votes. it may have been a factor peered beyond that, we know that flynn, manafort, the nra, we know that the republican national committee -- they hacked into the republican national committee and various senators peered they've attacked democrats and the clinton campaign and they attack 30 state election commissions. what they're doing now is matter of public record but it is clear there doing it because the intelligence committee has said it. and it's going on here it as part of their cyber activities, they

spectacle of how should i say it, repentant kgb operatives becoming fervent christians is more than amusing. furthermore, the orthodox church is, itself, a kgp front. it has been for years. as anybody who studies this knows. . moreover, if you look at the figures of church attendance in russia, they're not very impressive. i think thit was 3% to 4% was t last one. all this stuff about russia being a christian religious country, it's nice propaganda but the reality is rather different. however, here, we've seen all these probes mainly at the right. they were to the left like jill stein. remember the photograph of flynn with putin in a din e tner, the woman sitting there is jill stein. democrats will tell you stein may, of course, have a lot of votes in the three states, wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania. i don't remember how many she got but may have had a factor. now, beyond that, we know about flynn, know about manafort, know about the nra, know about the center for national interests. we know they tried to hack into the republican national committee and variation senatou. they attack eed democratic national committ

lot of eastern europeans and slavic workers at the ford plant, and orthodox christmas falls on a different day than western christianchristmas, so hundreds of workers didn't show up for work at the ford plant and ford fired them all. he fired them all. and the message was, everybody has to be there at the same time, leave at the same time, operate under the same rules. there are uniforms in that picture. a lot of chinese companies use uniforms. foxconn is headed by a charismatic founder who came out of the taiwanese military, discipline-based system and i think they feel that you need to mold people to what was called the regularities of complex automation. will they succeed in it? always succeed. fordlandia didn't succeed but sometimes they do. and often they succeed because people are full of necessity, these factories are built in places where there aren't a lot of opportunities, where living standards are low, and this may not be a pleasant or accommodating regime but it may improve people's living standards. >> great presentation. i was going to bring up the fordlandia case. prof. freeman: it was written by gre

tone of welcome to worlds apart the christian history is full of kids and send it looks like maybe another one coming that's three hundred million strong global orthodox community may soon be forced to take sides as the patriarchy is up against the national poll and must go wrangle over the fate of the faithful in your brain because it already has the point of no return to discuss that i'm now in joined by richard paul at the hilarious how to foreign relations at the russian orthodox church get an answer it's good to talk to thank you very much for a time just a few days ago the constant an announced in pretty stark terms its decision to eventually ground the suffering to the ukrainian church whatever it might be we'll discuss it now and i say to the ukrainian church keeping him. and that it is probably primarily a political process because if it were the politicians the state dept lobbied for that what do you make of this very tight association between state and religious affairs first of all i think they should explain what really means because not everyone would understand how to sell fully in course of the tradition means independence the orthodox

christian europe and the new figure of where you are so rich. that walls already on the table which directs that's discrimination and the large and the laissez shun mostly ukrainian orthodox church one side. effects if that will presuppose that the ukrainian norse in the church should change its name and that it should be a name to the russian orthodox church in the ukraine it is something like put singly in. hilo. when they join the n.c. in future this. in twenty forty you know bloody revolution to correct the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it you know lawyer a pretty meaningless book video neighborly is an idea spilling into the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty fourteen and those who took part had invested over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and cost. chris and democratic. colleague at. least. until this time. i got stuck i said to my destiny to get money in. their lives to build a school. i mean into him a ride on a mission a highway nine. look what was on the hood of these look i. do

hello and welcome to worlds apart the christian history is full of kids in the senate looks like maybe another one coming that's three hundred million strong global orthodox community may soon be forced to take sides of the patriarchy to constantinople and moscow wrangle over the fate of baseball in your brain has already passed that point of no return to discuss that i'm now i'm joined by metropolitan hilarie on how to foreign relations at the russian orthodox church here and announce it's good to talk to thank you very much for your time just a few days ago constantinople patch arcade and in pretty stark terms its decision to eventually ground the sufferer to the ukrainian church whatever it might be revealed discuss it now and i say to the ukrainian church keeping in mind that it is public primarily a political process but because of the politicians the state lobbied for that what do you make of this very tight association between state and religious affairs first of all i think they should explain what it means because not everyone would understand how to sell for the course of the tradition means independence the orthodox church unlike the roman cath

christian commission, they did distribute a number of scriptures that were catholics scriptures. they did that in certain regiments. they often failed to draw a hard line in the sand. they solicited those from orthodox organizations, evangelical groups, starting with their ministers for positions of delegates. the lehman i talked about, they expected to be from those congregations. during times of war, especially this war, there were no hard and fast lines drawn. something i didn't mention much, but it is important to remind us all that the christian commission, even though its primary focus was the boys in blue, they would go into hospitals where the confederate wounded were lying in agony and administer them. after the war, there were testimonials provided by confederate soldiers saying "we want to thank the members of the christian commission for administering to us." they were from the opposing side, yet were treated as christian brethren. if it weren't for the administration, they would have passed away. i have come across a number of those testimonials. some letters with signatures. these lines were blurred during times of war. the christian commission was focused on the spiritual good of the

buzzing in means to be muslim serb means to be orthodox and question me speak christian. before the war it didn't matter what religion you were. i. just leave them to look at the polls would say sixty six tell me. here's your host which was you know. that the grand jury prize presented by class i i i this is a film i could see from some parents and understanding to assume and. i. was going to. let me say. that if this is the barack have building. they should make it into music. yeah. there was a lot of fighting here during the war it was the dividing line. i have been you know was. the marathon starts at this point in the game in how much so now it's not about eventually it's about unity. for. thank. you. for. your honesty sparking with hope it's the first time i've seen you like this since we arrived in beirut and it was in. the. u.k. in the box with over forty thousand people who've been in the message of peace. who believe in making a difference through sports. the cook is another. name which i think the transformation is being fueled from many different directions tha

means to be muslim serve means to be orthodox and question me speak christian. before the war it didn't matter what religion you were. i. just leave them to look and see what's your sixty six down. here is you have to get you know. that exact area right present that i lost i think i this is a film i get from parents and understanding to assume and. i. was going to. let me say. that if this is the barack have building. they should make it into music. yeah. there was a lot of fighting here during the war it was the dividing line. you know was. the marathon starts at this point in the game in how much so now it's not about division it's about unity. for. thank. you. if you're on this list bucking with hope it's the first time i've seen you like this since we arrived in beirut and he was in. the. u.k. in the mosques of over forty thousand people who bring in the message of peace. who believe in making a difference through sports. the cook is another. name which i think the transformation is being fueled from many different directions. we have a lot is changing. but

orthodox protestant church was actually welcome to apply for service. the commission did not solicit assistance from unitarians, for example, roman catholics, and others considered outside the fold of evangelical christianity. of the approximately 5000 delegates, only a handful where women. they made a tremendous impact. often the early and chaotic stages of its existence, the commission would have delegates to serve various traits of time, making allowances for different schedules. as the war dragged on, the beach delegates found at least six weeks in the field. which thehe year in commission began its benevolent operations, the organization sent 356 delegates to the field. by the close, 4859. structured -- instructed them to view all military regulations and abstain from casting aspersions upon the authorities, military, medical, and clerical. the group was aware of infractions of the rules may lead to cruel relations with officers, surgeons, and chaplains that could jeopardize this work. cruel relations did prevail for a time. major general howard, often referred to as the christian general, was a supporter of the christian commission. he delivered a public address in which he find the "system of the ar

christianity among many of the kgb or fsb personnel. does this have anything to do with the possible schism between the eastern orthodox church which is basically centered in the ukraine? can you say something about that please? >> the orthodox church, that has been all over the state and it's also been an arm of the secret police going back in many cases. there's no privacy in the confessional, for example. the church was obliged to inform on people telling them of the seditious activity. as an arm of the russian state is that it is an arm of the empire. there has been this trend if you go through the entire ukrainian history and try to look at the ukrainian history of objectively without polemics on either side or on the many sides of all these issues, the russian orthodox church tried to assert that it is the main church and the ukraine's orthodox church is subordinate to it. and that therefore the russian orthodox church and by implication therefore the russian state have hegemony or leadership in ukraine and that they are the church you should orient yourself towards area -- towards. now, they have tried to play effortme with redoubled und