the orting industry associations to him and a jury ordered him to pay $675000. >> $22,500 for each songdownloaded. john: that is not right says this author against intellectual property. >> from copying and learning and sharing. >> without it global say in produce less. >> that is actually not true today we have piracy that is widespread and most people don't make a dime from their works. you know the danger to the people that want to get their name out there is not piracy piracy is a compliment. john: i should be allowed to pirate movies off the internet payment. >> i think that's the wrong term dislike stealing is wrong term. when you copy information you're not taking anything from anyone, you are copying ideas. policy is what people used to do when they would take things. >> the wall for wall street was downloaded illegally more than any other movie in 2014. other films making the list include frozen and robocop gravity and the hobbit. >> is not being stolen, it's been copied. >> i think this is why the copyrights are a bad idea. they expire after 17 years roughly. >> let's make thi