there's another former governor i ran into in arkansas a few times, orval faubus. mike huckabee founds like orval faubus. >> mike huckabee is on the wrong side of history. >> what does that mean for what he's actually able to do? i mean his statement was very bombastic more so than most but in terms of what he's able to do in terms of what does it mean -- >> he's appealing to the worst instincts of some people. i don't want to condemn the whole right of the republican party there are some very good voters out there who really think this is the wrong thing to do. but you don't make this us versus them. >> there is one of these fascinating subprimaries taking place right now within the primary itself and it consists of those candidates who are vying for the support of cultural conservatives. and this ruling is an opportunity for them to stand out. >> how do you do it? >> by recognizing or -- >> you've seen today how the assumption is by being really aggressively at the court. >> interesting test for the republican candidates. as we get closer the election is not till