. >> and one of the people that you open with is orwell. and that on the civil war which i am already excited it is super thrilling. like having a double agent and it is fascinating that orwell known for his journalism and you have been a journalist so then here's the moment when they figure out they can do more with fiction so did you have a moment with fiction writers? i don't know so what are your feelings on what you can do? >> yes. but i think that is just fascinating it has to be reasonable and yes those that we think about he had these experiences for what was going on in spain and to be disenchanted of that and came back and in soviet communism and i do think it's marvelous it is incredibly rigorous and disciplined in the way he tried to tell a story in complex detail and nobody read it. and then to say how do i get this across and this is the parable of the child's fairy tale. so that's how he goes back and thinks about as a child's fairy tale. >> so when i was growing up so people of our generation and that his parents was after t

the hunger games with that popular culture and then have that moral message spirit that predates orwell by ten years. >> it is quite similar in some ways. but i think it's enormously appealing and it shocked to see how popular we came out with this one year ago and has distributed 40000 copies since then. fell long before even any graphic novel as a award-winning model comic illustrator. >> to anthem cell in its day quick. >> it did. is popular and the fountainhead. >> who is your co- adapter? >> and did the illustrations down at the san diego comic on one of those benefits of working and branching out because they go to these kinds of conferences but now we are also exhibiting but also have been at comic con. >> and when that utopian society comes from the laughter from the right. >> i guess you have to think about the left and the right. and then and then to tend to look at things in favor of maximum freedom that the government should make most of the choices. and then to have the most minimal government possible. and we are not market on - - anarchist. and then no protection for prop

. >> the person that you open with is orwell. so with the spanish civil war. and they were agents and like we know for his journalism. and you have been a journalist. and then when they figure out with journalism. so i wonder if, i don't know. >> but that idea is the last possible thing and be so terrible at it but so there is a reason why i have a phd in english. [laughter] there are ways we are thinking about and with these experiences and then to be disenchanted of that and then to be really concerned and through stalinism. and that is marvelous trying to be rigorous and disciplined and to tell the story in all complex detail. so he has to go back and think how do i get that across? and that's basically how he told his story to go back and think about the simple most effective way. >> how did you come to that topic quick. >> so the book sales and then i thought it was dreadful but and then with the cold war it with that global disaster in one of my friends at school parents were left after the wall came down so to live the ordinary life so i never thought o

and orwell smoked this is the way germans like their meat and they do like their meat. pleasures need is part of our food our nutrition that's the way it's always been most of the. germans consume almost 60 kilograms of me to gear on average that's considerably higher than the world average of $34.00 kilos. but even in the land of the curry vorst things are changing. consumers are chewing over the idea of going meat looks to back animal rights environmental protection and health take this green food truck at a farmers market in 5 board it's sausages are oddly angular they're made of tofu. and this man is sampling them for professional reasons he's head of sales for the company that makes the tofu. and i think it's a general trend actually based diet is a mega trend more and more people especially young people are getting on the bandwagon but some call it a gret effect and people are questioning their consumption habits and plan proteins are big opportunity and we see that in the rising hunger for tofu will spike. real biggins make up just one percent of the population i

this one leaked a memorandum, secret memorandum talking about something out of a george orwell novel,llege richlic unfairness listen to this. >> in this project veritas video which i did watch last night, imagine that a google image yeary for ceo shows predominantly men. if it were a factually representation of the world, it would be algorithmic unfairness. in some cases it may be appropriate to take no action if the system alkt affects current reality while in other cases it may be desirable to consider how we might help society reach a more equitable state via product intervention. what does that mean? >> when i go to google search and i type in a search for something i hope to get reality. the facts. evidently not. and the information the insider gave us helped us krob the rate was google was really doing as it related to the 2020 elections. >> we should break. i know but she is very misguides. that will not make it better to know all the same people that don't have the same reasons we do we'll be charged with preventing the next trump situation. >> charged with preventing the next

listen, double speak worked well for orwell. it doesn't work in reality this clumsy cover has trump's fingerprints all over it. just lie, deny, then point to the media and cry. but you heard the proof, and today we got more proof of what this president was up to from another diplomat who's loyal to trump but gave damning testimony about the president's intentions. let's bring in someone who heard from ambassador sondland today, heard exactly what mulvaney said. house oversight committee member jamie raskin. you and i lost a friend today and america lost a legend. elijah cummings meant a lot of things to a lot of people, and i hope that now his passing is a remindtory people about what passion of purpose is and what brave leadership is. he was gone too soon, no question about it, jamie, but hopefully his legacy will be a lesson to all of us. >> well, thank you for that. it's hard times and they just got a little bit harder with the loss of our beloved elijah cummings. he has been a role model to everybody in maryland and everybod

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one of the greatest threats to our democracy, like george orwell's predictions, people start not being distinguish between truth and lies democracy suffers. this is a president that sends hours and hours at night tweeting out lie after lie after lie elevating lies and bigotry from other folks and the news media talks about it, give it oxygen. enough is enough, let's get back to truth, let's get back to fax, let's get back to science and unifying our country and not allowing the media to degrade the character of someone like joe biden or anyone on that stage. >> reporter: something not policy related, the spin room debut of you and your girlfriend. i think we could get a shot. >> a night when your girlfriend overshadows you. go to coreybooker.com and win a chance to have dinner with the two of us. >> reporter: shannon, a lot going on over here 150 feet away but we have a lot covered. >> peter doocy does it all. don't think you will ever get away with anything because he talks media coverage and relationships with the candidates. our thanks to you, good to see you. now for some other new

this is like george orwell was predicting.le start not being able to distinguish between truth and lies, democracy suffers. this is a president then spends hours and hours at night tweeting out lie after lie. elevating lies and bigotry from other folks and elevating. do you know the news media does? they talk about it and give it oxygen. enough is enough. let's get back to truth and facts and science and get back to unifying our country and not allowing demeaning character of joe biden or anybody on that stage. i have worked with just about everybody on that stage. really quick, something not policy related. it's the spin room debut of you and your girlfriend. >> the spin room debut. i think we can get a shot. >> this is very nice to have a night where your girlfriend rightfully overshadows you. i will say, go to cory booker.com and win a chance to have dinner with the two of us. [laughter] >> a lot going on over here. a hundred and 50 feet from you. we have a lot covered there. >> peter doocy does it all. do not let you think

the fire broke out along orwell road yesterday afternoon.irefight hers a tough time getting to the flames because they were burning in a marshy area. it blacked out 105 acres before crews could get it under control and didn't threaten any structures, though. >>> in los angeles evacuation orders are lifted in the pacific palisades under control. neighbors were fighting the fire with garden hoses. crews stayed on thecene to make sure the 40 acre fire did not reignite. >>> happening today in the east bay oakland starts a two-week cleaning operation at a controversial homeless camp. >> sky 7 was over the site yesterday. the city says it's become a fire danger. people are being asked to move to the opposite side of the lot while city workers removed hazardous materials including wooden structures, propane tanks and trash. they will let residents return and will create a new fire lane pathway so emergency vehicles can get in and out. >>> tests measuring toxins at the nustar energy plant sent smoke particles into nearby neighborhoods. the health of

george orwell wrote in 1984, party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears, it was their final most essential command, unquote. a philosophy that is the apparent white house strategy for this scandal or as president trump once put it -- >> just remember what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what is happening. >> actually, it is. and today the first crack in the republican veneer of solidarity with president trump, republican senator mitt romney of utah saying, quote, the president's brazen and unprecedented appeal to china and to ukraine to investigate joe biden is wrong and appalling, unquote. cnn's kaitlan collins is at the white house. and kaitlan, there is now a republican senator who is saying that he heard of this quid pro quo and confronted president trump about it? >> reporter: republican senator ron johnson telling the "wall street journal" that the u.s. ambassador to the european union told him that the status of that military aid for ukraine was tied to the investigations that the president wanted to see the country carry out. now that significant f

. >> remember, please, the george orwell's novel "1984" opens with the clock striking 13. keep that in mind as you hear this. earlier on this network a decorated four-star u.s. army general and former ground division commander in the gulf war said flatly, "our country has never operated this way." >> how does donald trump give that speech when 100 isis fighters are now in locations unknown to the u.s. government? >> there's an orwellian fantasy quality to what's coming out of the white house. obviously the kurds are fleeing by the tens of thousands. by the way, those isis fighters, 10,000 of them, if assad gets to them first he's going to kill them. if the turkish army gets to them first, and the kurds eventually will let them go, they'll be freed to revive the isis insurrection. it's hard to know what's going on inside the u.s. government. the security process is gone. it's broken. this is mr. trump home alone, impulsively making decisions. >> here for our lead-off discussion on a wednesday night, jonathan lemire, white house reporter for the associated press. eugene robi

tech companies, or helping build the surveillance state and the social credit system that would make orwellblush in terms of levels of surveillance, and some essay they bear no moral no more responsibility, i think we really need to expose this and we think it. >> what do we d aut, given this, agenda with the terrible human rights abuses happening right now against the uighurs? you mention the hong kong protesters. what will be able to do about that? >> that's again where, when america doesn't make its priority human rights, individual freedom of liberty, freedom of expression, we lose our moral force. the fact that many countries, muslim majority, signed that letter supporting the chinese policy against the uighurs is pure economic intimidation. it is extraordinarily disappointing that this administration has not spoken up. of. on the other hand, i think about senator rubio. i think a lot about my republican colleagues. they have remained stalwart in speaking up about american values, and 98% of what i went through today, maybe not the trump parts, but the other 95% i think most of my repu

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passed the hong kong bill orwell trump veto it?e if he will veto it. he is talking about a phase a deal that has been signed and the chinese have given nothing when negotiations were closed. chinese feel like they do not need to give him anything because he is not going to expand tariffs or make their lives more difficult. he wants a deal but does not want to look weak. can he sell it? he is going to take a lot of hits domestically because china is the one foreign policy issue where you have strong bipartisan agreement in a harder line direction. we did not see that last night on the democratic stage because no one asked a question on china in three hours, which is kind of astonishing. this is not an easy one for trump to get right. we: we under -- francine: understand from the trump administration they want to phase a mini deal. can china sign up to that? ian: they will, but they will not give anything further. trump will have to accept there will not be a new legal structure around intellectual property protections. they have to

it with its so-called affordable clean energy rule, which is a name fanciful enough to make george orwellblush. the first thing to understand about the so-called affordable clean energy rule is that it is a do-nothing rule exactly as the polluters wish. e.p.a. admits its own rule would do virtually zero to reduce carbon pollution. it requires zero emissions reductions at natural gas-fired power plants. and it would allow coal-fired power plants to make minor efficiency improvements and then run for longer hours. that could actually lead to an increase in carbon pollution. this rule is designed to fool people into thinking the trump administration is obeying the clean air act, but no one should be fooled. from the get-go the trump administration made clear it didn't care about cutting carbon pollution, fighting climate change, or protecting the environment or public health. it cared about obeying the fossil fuel industry, not the law. within weeks of taking office, trump's swampy cabinet rolled out the red carpet for coal baron bob murray who had an action plan for the administration. here

this is like george orwell. host: in connecticut this morning.lking about acting white house chief of staff mick mulvaney. he is president trump's third chief of staff after reince priebus and john kelly. some reports out over the weekend that he may not be president trump's last chief of staff. from cnn over the weekend acting white house chief of staff mick mulvaney faces pressure to oust him after the white house faces the impeachment inquiry. top aides including president trump's son-in-law and advisor jared kushner were seeking replacements for the top job before nancy pelosi announced she would move ahead with her impeachment inquiry. the story noticing that the previously unreported efforts did not come to fruition but underscored the weakness of before hisposition headline generating performance in the white house briefing room last week. you can see the story from cnn out over the weekend from yesterday. david in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, democrat. caller: on mick mulvaney. with mick mulvaney i findliani, these guys them so funny they go

they're doing what orwell right what people do when they fish to submit themselves to an authoritarianader. it's remarkable sitting here in washington, i'm from britain, an ally of the united states. knowing what america has been to allies, to see that its word means nothing under this president. >> it's painful. >> we shouldn't let this moment go. it's remarkable. >> you brought up senator mitt romney and his powerful words yesterday. let's play them right flou. >> the announcement today is being portrayed as a victory. it is far from a victory. this is a matter of american honor and promise. so too is the principle that we stand by our allies, that we do not abandon our friends. the decision to abandon the kurds violates one of our most sacred duties. it strikes at american honor. what we have done to the kurds will stand as a bloodstain in the annals of american history. was there no chance for diplomacy? are we so weak canned inept plattically that turk politically that turkey forced the hand of the united states of america? turkey? >> mike barnicle, what's so jarring about that sp

for -- some people feel that cognitive security isn't a good name because it sounds a little too orwell orwellin. it's an ngo that sponsors these sharing organizations. there should be something out there pretty soon. and thank you for being hard on the tech companies. i used to work at twitter and i don't anymore. and i'm kind of curious, in the announcement about this event, there were going to be representatives from twitter and facebook here and then i haven't heard anything about that. so i was wondering if there were? >> yeah. i think there may be in the room. are there in the room, twitter and facebook? i don't know if they want to announce themselves. yes, there are. and we had hoped they might take part in the panel, but they are here, they have been listening and, you know, we didn't have questions specifically addressed to them. i'm sure if you want to buttonhole them after this meeting -- >> come on, twitter. you all have so much to say. twitter is not talking. >> my question is why not participate? >> nice job, extwitter. >> i want to hear and learn from the experts in the