when you are orwell, truth is all that matters.e more critical of your own self and your own side. >> where are we on this road? let's address the issue of truth. we have absolute truth these days that people believe in. some of it is related to what side you are on. you are in a world where you carve out a side and that is where you are. how do you reconcile things that are important to you with what is the truth. >> that is a hard one. for me, the truth must always be tested. that is how you check against fundamentalist thought. you have to be open to challenging your own beliefs and listening to your own side and criticizing your own side when that happens. i believe that there is a much more dangerous front coming from the right right now. my book has been banned in so many states. the kid who found my book and wrote to me and said i no longer want to commit suicide once i read this book and my parents would not let me read it at home and they let me read it in the library. those things seem small to people. that signal is very

so the, the river orwell feeds ipswich. it's much smaller than felixstowe which is at the mouth of the river. so the orwell bridge is rather fantastic. i'm very high, has two columns which go into the river, but you can see that at the base of it. it has this large expanse of concrete and, a sort of solid island base around it. so that any ship coming up to it would, would hit this would be pushed upwards, slow it down and unlikely to damage the bridge. but as i say, the ships there are much smaller than you would get as the one in baltimore. >> and what happened in baltimore was so shocking because quick that it because it was so quick that it just down straight away, just went down straight away, whereas you would have thought it might have tottered for a bit. i mean, the speed of it was really very remarkable. yes. >> they had this continuous structure . really quite a lot of structure. really quite a lot of bndges structure. really quite a lot of bridges would have, would have split structures and they you might lose on

george orwell, fair elections.ll, the author whose words are quoted now more than most, said political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable , and to give murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind . he said the purpose pure wind. he said the purpose of politicians was the defence of politicians was the defence of the in defensible. which bnngs of the in defensible. which brings us to the word genocide , brings us to the word genocide, a word with more explosive power than any ordnance dropped in 1945. apparently coined in 1944 by polish born us jurist raphael lemkin. in specific reference to the nazi extermination of the jewish people. the word genocide literally means the killing of a tribe. last month, the international court of justice deemed as plausible plausible accusations by the government of south africa that the state of israel was perpetrating a genocide upon the captive palestinian people of gaza. and yet and yet, despite that statement by n

hear, they were dumb and deaf, and now they plunged headlong into that very famous english novel, orwell’sa, taste, enjoy, you, of course, they will save you, but it’s a matter of time and losses, and of course, this is different, i was with you , ksenia lebedeva, see you in the next program. the tv news agency presents it in the public domain. we have no secrets from our people. loaf. this is beautiful bread, bread has never been and will never be easy for those who raise it, bread obtained in hot sweat and cold mud, snatched from the bad weather, oh difficult, rolls and loaves are baked so that we do not know the hungry. the consumption of other high-calorie products has been consumed. we appreciate that pork is small. there are numerous attempts on fish and bird. and salt - 9 tons for the day. eight saugas, 10 kalgas. three ancestral enterprises pa perapratsotsy forduktsyi zhivelagadouli, svoy proekt arganizatsiya. similar gardens and gardens, branded stores and direct connections with foreign partners. everything that you wanted to know about the meaning of human existence, for everyon

she was blind from birth, she came blind, blind, to supervise putin's fair, democratic elections , orwellave shot himself. and now not about the farce, but about what is serious and what... it is necessary to talk about much more than this is all that we have already announced, about people, technologies and resources, this is all that is needed to the ukrainian army in order to effectively destroy our common enemy, and these three elements are actually called the key to victory in the davinci wolf battalion, the commander of this battalion, i will remind you, was the hero of ukraine dmytro kotsyubailo, our colleague, natalya stare pravo, spoke. with battalion soldier oleksandr yapchanka. he heads the honor company about finding new people, about values, and about how ukrainians can achieve victory. let's look further together. oleksandr yapchenko was there before the full-scale russian invasion doctor, adviser to the minister of health. in february... 2022, he joined the defense of ukraine, joined the honor company, which is part of the first separate mechanized battalion of vovka davins

because there is only a path, there are surveillance cameras above it, that we regularly mention orwellagain in my head, it really looks like this in practice, that all all all streets, but everything is completely under such a cap of observation? no, it doesn't really look like that, but the occupiers announced that they want to close the video surveillance. anything that is active on territory, well, on our territory , on the occupied territory, and well, they are generally on a roll, as to how and where to limit what, they can simply take and block the roadway, the sidewalk with a fence, put a fence there near there near the city court, that’s it there was a time, and be kind, do what you want, go around as you want, despite the fact that there was quite active traffic there, imagine any street in kyiv or lviv, where it is just across the street. they make a fence and that's it, goodbye, but let me repeat that their goal is to control everything and everyone on the streets and everywhere , they don’t leave it at that, and the last, the last was, the last was a partisan action, when t

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what i consider the very first world problem of having their tweet taken down and comparing it to, orwell's 1984, which i always think of as more, living in a dystopian totalitarian society, like under, you know, kim jong un or something, where your family gets disappeared along with you if you say the wrong thing, people also try to say that things are orwellian because we're changing the meaning of words somehow. justice alito, in an earlier argument, complained that we should be calling what social media platforms do censorship, and that it's orwellian not to do so. and i disagree. the government is the most powerful, kid on the block in this country, and it's the entity that engages in, in in censorship. that's what that word means. >> fascinating. why is this decision, in murphy versus missouri ultimately important for the future? what are the potential outcomes that would affect us all? >> there's such a range of directions that the court could go, going back to my point about the standards still being pretty unclear, were they to go sort of whole hog for the state's position, that co

i'm that george orwell warned us about. i'm not that george orwell warned us about .that sam about. i'm not arguing that sam melia isn't a naughty man with some naughty opinions, but we can all see that the law isn't appued can all see that the law isn't applied fairly. there's a gulf in how people like melia are treated compared with the far left or islamists that's visible from space, and this two tier treatment does far more to stir up racial tensions than anything a few stickers could do . the a few stickers could do. the same week that sam melia was jailed for stickers, george galloway, a man who said equally provocative things , was elected provocative things, was elected to the british parliament by muslims in rochdale . although, muslims in rochdale. although, to be fair, it's not the worst thing muslims have done in rochdale. and just look at how the judge who handed sam his sentence. tom bayliss kc, seen here having a good old virtue signal next to a statue of mandela, let off much worse criminals. tom bayliss gave a man who had sex. images of children as yo

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george orwell's 1984. my guests, james alastor who teaches a course on orwell and garrett conley. a banned book boy erased. a memoir about growing up gay in a fundamentalist arkansas family. a fundamentalist arkans family. edition of "the last word," defendant trump, which starts right now. >>> good evening and welcome to a special friday edition of "the last word," focusing on defendant trump, donald trump has not come up with the magical solution to present letitia james from beginning the process of attaching his assets on monday into order to guarantee the payment of a foreign $64 million civil fraud judgment against donald trump. the merger announced today between donald trump's social media company with a much higher valued company, called the digital world acquisition corporation, can do nothing to change donald trump's financialn capacities on monday. when donald trump hits the deadline for satisfying the judgment against him. if donald trump had $464 million , he could just post it with wi the court as a guarantee that he could cover the judgment if he loses his appeal of

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as orwell predicted forever.i, for one, am simply sick to death of talk of democracy where there is none, talk of freedom of speech and the first amendment, when the primary aim is to silence among much else. i want those petty dictators to come clean once and for all, and just admit what they want, what they have all but achieved , which is the all but achieved, which is the power to tell the rest of us what to do and what to think, while acknowledging there's not a we can do about it. a damn thing we can do about it. except, of course, there always is and always will be something we can do about it. and that's to get up in their faces and tell them precisely where to go and where between the cheeks of that great big bottom. can that great big bottom. they can shove nonsense . i'm joined shove their nonsense. i'm joined this week by barrister , this week by barrister, broadcaster and futurist andrew eborn. andrew how do you not just get to the point where you just get to the point where you just think, just tell

russian aggression and support for the war, we doubt it, because we know that the two minds that orwellrote about, it is absolutely in the genetic code of these bio-organisms, we will talk about what is done on the contact line now by the co-founder of the deep state map, from which we always start the morning with oksanov, roman pohoriliy is in touch with our studio, sir roman, congratulations, congratulations, glory. glory to the heroes, but i want to start with this area, with which we just literally talked all around mariyanka, our defender just commented to us, and i see that the russians are throwing their caps up, shouting that in the eastern outskirts of novomykhaivka, they are already sitting somewhere there, eastern part of the village, they give the desired reality, does it really look like that there, because i will show that in some areas of the front in this direction, the last two days have somehow been calm and they are preparing for some new offensive, that's what they tell us our, er, well, they are constantly regrouping there, because the attacks are continuous, accor

that is orwell. for me, for these kind of things like telephones or telegraphs or voluntary communication or the next big machine, those type of private communications have to be able to exist somewhere. there has to be some sort of way were we can allow people to communicate. >> is that because of the modern public square? some say there is a distinction between public and private and that is driving his analysis as to when and under what circumstances this kind of regulation can be done. are you rejecting that because you're suggesting that they merge in the situation given the nature of communications? >> i'm not. i will try again to be artful because it's complicated. i think about the common carrier as a useful tool for discourse. we note there is a hard line to draw. it's hard to tell the difference between fair and miami herald. it will get down to the granular level but it's hard to tell. it needs to have some direction of where to draw the lines. common law and carriages that compass. >> are

glory to the heroes, we have been tracking paradoxical things since the very morning, about which orwelln did not want to write about how russians will fight russians on russian territory, and this is within the framework of the russian-ukrainian war. we see that the fighters of the siberian battalion are declaring that they have already entered another settlement, horkovsky, this is near bilhorod, that is, we can to hope that these will not be local operations, but we have to estimate whether it can be deployed in an entire area, well, in fact , yes, sooner or later we should come to this, because the first measures, so to speak , of those unknown green guys... yes, because on the territory of russia, because actually the situation is very interesting in the sense that we continue to re-export to russia that hybrid toolkit that russia has used against us since 2014, well, actually there in different ways moments continues to use until now, and here is the fact that on our side and to a certain extent in our strategic course, so to speak, these citizens of the russian federation are acti

apparently, humanity chose not the ideas of kropotkin, but the designs of orwell, that is, the creationce and control. however, the alternative, a society of absolute freedom and the triumph of social darwinism, also looks unattractive. gaite is convincing evidence of this, bright, but not durable. it is unlikely that the state will ever be revived here in one form or another. although, of course, it cannot not be reborn. the earth will remain, and a certain number of people on it too. oleg romanov, around the planet. you are watching a program around the planet on belarus one and belarus 24. a new drama in the history of the pear. barbie doll, which was sculpted in the likeness of the wife of charles ii. the consumer did not like it. it would seem that nothing is foreshadowed. the first copy of the toy solemnly sent into the hands of the queen consort. the creators copy all the details and even the famous bracelet from camila. but instead of the wow effect, the royal addition to the barbie family faces old. and her beloved man ken create an image of an ideal life, and margot robbie, wh

hear, they were dumb and deaf, and now they plunged headlong into that very famous english novel , orwell’ste it, enjoy, you, of course, will be saved, but it’s a matter of time and losses, and of course, this is different, i was with you, ksenia lebedeva, see you in the next program. in the next few minutes we will only talk about sports. hello. let's start with hockey. capital dynamo vs moscow dynamo and the sixth game of the series 1.8 finals of the gagarin cup. today in the spotlight. enos opened the scoring in the fifth minute. jeashvili restored parity in the second period. and in the third period of the game, ilyenko put the guests ahead, jordan weal put an end to the confrontation with a 3:1 score. 4:2 in the series muscovites are stronger. the belarusians fought, but we're talking today. dynamo, thank you for the season. metallurg defeats youth in the second match of the 1/4 finals of the president's cup at the chizhovka arena . after losing the first game 1:4 , today they were stronger than 3:1. the series goes to zhlobin. vitebsk lost to brest 4:5 in overtime today, and the serie

the great george orwell, you may remember him.some great books animal farm in europe 1984 he explained it's almost universally felt when you call eight country democrat were praising it consequently every kind of regime it is eight democracy and fear they might do stop using the word if it was tied down to any one meeting. in other words democracy is used to conceal it to urinate. we see it in china, russia, other parts the people's republican, that sort of thing. the person who uses them has their own private definition but allows to think he means something quite different. so simply put the abuser of words is a demagogue who is knowingly aligned by creating a false narrative. i'll give you a few examples for joe biden. joe biden is accusing donald trump of wanting to destroy social security and medicare. in 1984, in 1987, 2007, and 2009 as a senator and beyond as a candidate joe biden's call for either the slashing of spending in social security and medicare and the veterans administration freezing spending or complete overhaul

discuss one of the most banned books of all time and one that is frighteningly relevant, george orwell's 1984. my guest, james mcallister and garrett conley, an author. tomorrow morning 10:00 a.m. eastern. of hea rt. you didn't wear a versace dress if you didn't want to be seen. >>> gianni versace was not for the faint of heart. you do not wear a versace address if you did not want to be seen. >> gianni versace was a true original . >> life always

it reminds me when i was in the classroom teaching george orwell, we live in orwelian america today,leagues at fox business or fox, the mainstream media otherwise they do filter what we know, what we learned and it's all the more important for americans to really be dialed in, sort of like what cheryl said, just a minute ago. not just about national elections but about local election as well. that's really where we're going to be able to take back this country. maria: i know. the local election as we just discussed, they're being threatened by illegal voting. you know, i mean, look, now we know what the point of this wide open border is. look at all of the stories where you've got efforts to have illegals vote and then look at merrick garland, the ag, saying he's going to vow to fight voter id laws. why? >> well, the whole point as you and i have talked about for the last few years is to reorder america. by that, to allow these 10 million illegal aliens not just to vote in our elections but to live off the dole of our generous safety net programs, on your back, my back, the backs of

a lot of our readers have read george orwell's book, 1984 and that's about a dictatorship and they try drain scary and dangerous words of their meaning and they say things like freedom is slavery and war is peace. and ignorance is strength, and the other thing is, he's trying to say these things not only to telegraph what he might do but so that in the fall if let's say joe biden's campaign does as it's already begun to do say, you elect donald trump, you will lose your democracy. donald trump can muddy the word of democracy, that threat will not be very great, same things with things like bloodbath or suspending the constitution or pinning the pentagon under his political enemies, if he says this enough, i don't think he's that shrewd but he's got shrewd people around him, you muddy this and you throw these words into the air, by the fall, when it should be one issue, biden and democracy or trump and dictatorship, this is one way of muddying it up a >> michael, one of the failures i've seen, it takes two sides for democracy to end, you have to have the people who want to end democracy

. >> trump over the weekend doing his best george orwell trying to turn the tables on his own autocratic plans by claiming joe biden is a threat to democracy. meanwhile, the self-professed billionaire apparently doesn't have enough cash to secure a bond in his civil fraud case. >>> also tonight, the family of a liberal icon was furious that an award given in her name is be handed to the likes of elon musk and rupert murdoch, and tonight there's an update on this story. plus, nikole hannah-jones at the table tonight on how the right has hijacked the term color blindedness, not to advance racial progress but rather to reverse it. >>> but we begin tonight with a sad and terrifying reality that we face in america. namely that a mad man is running for president. and too many people are pretending that that is not the case. americans seem to be numb to the ramblings of a man who quotes adolf hitler approvingly, vows to terminate the constitution, and open migrant internment camps on u.s. soil and who is promising to throw the doors open to the d.c. federal prison and release thousands of viole

it is one that is frightening -- frighteningly relevant, george orwell's 1984.al scientist, and the author of the band look, boy erased, a memoir about growing up gay in a fundamentalist family. it is time for a special edition of the last word, hosted by lawrence. and that starts now. ♪ >>> good evening, and welcome to a special friday edition of the last word, focusing on defendant trump. donald trump has not come up

when i first had that injury, my orthopedic surgeon, famous orwell, let's see how active over the yearsmportant for any stability in the knee. and we're still trying to figure out how we operate more successful league, how we train women to reduce these injuries. and there are so many different injuries that female athletes can have. and the ways that we need to encourage women, for example, to strength train at a land better, how to jump better that specific to their bodies is really an area of under-researched and under a tension. one specific example of that is also we think9 about concussions in football players. and i think it's fantastic that we want to protect the brains of of football players with new helmets and new protect of precautions. that's essential. but one of the things in reading my book was researching my book was learning how women suffer more consequences long term consequences from concussions, from but also this sions and domestic violence patients. i had no idea about this by taking care of thousands of women, but one inmen in the unis the victim of severe physi

i consider the very first world problem of having their tweet taken down and comparing it to uh- orwellwhich i always think of as more living in a dystopian totalitarian society. like under , you know, kim jong un or something, where your family gets disappeared along with you if you say the wrong thing. i i don't know how they will rule. i think there is a possibility that they will rule for the states, but i think it's pretty clear the states are not going to get everything they want here. >> most of the justices today seem convinced that government officials should at least be able to try to persuade companies, media, tech or otherwise not to post certain things. so long as it's without threat of punishment. youtube content creators will now be required to label videos that use artificial intelligence. they will have to share this information on a checklist before uploading the content. it's part of the social media company's effort to be transparent with users about misleading videos. creators could face consequences if they repeatedly don't add that ai disclosure to your voice. >>

i mean, is that just like, as orwell says, that the struggle is constantly to see the thing that is rightont of us? keith: yes, it's a huge blind spot in american drug policy. you can talk about drugs for hours, and people will mention fentanyl and meth and cocaine, which are, of course, very important drugs to think about, and they do a lot of harm, but no one will bring up alcohol. and, afterwards, they may all get a drink together and not even think, we're using a drug right now. and that's partly what the risk of alcohol comes from, is that those who use it don't think of themselves as using a drug and, therefore, they don't worry about it as much as they should. william: one of the things, back into the cdc's data, while more men died of alcohol-related deaths, the death rate increased for women quite dramatically. why do you think that is? keith: very tragic to see the increase among women's deaths. and, also, it's enraging to know where it comes from. so, about 25 years ago, the alcohol industry observed that women were getting more education, more disposable income, but they weren

is that as orwell says, the struggle is constantly to see the thing in front of us?a huge blind spot in american drug policy. you can talk about drugs for hours and people will mention fentanyl and meth and cocaine, and they do a lot of harm, but no one will bring up alcohol. at the end afterwards they may get a drink together. that is what the risk of alcohol comes from, those who use it don't of themselves as using a drug and therefore they don't worry about it as much as they should. william: one of the things, back into the cdc's data, while more men died of alcohol-related deaths, the death rate increased for women quite dramatically. why do you think that is? keith: very tragic to see this increase among women debt, and it is -- deaths, and it is enraging to know where it comes from. 25 years ago the alcohol industry realized women were getting more disposable income but were nondrinking as much. they released female focused advertising, creating mommy wine culture. it worked broadly speaking. we saw an increase in women stricking, -- in women's drinking. biolo

this thing was sprawling, breathtaking, orwell ya january. so that -- orwellian.monday at the supreme court. i'm still hopeful the supreme court will see is it the same way the lower courts did when they issued these very important rulings previously. my amendment would say we're going to prohibit in the budget any funds going to any agency that's trying to suppress people's first amendment rights and trying to do an end run around the constitution working with private parties, social media company. larry: and, senator, just to go through this, so a lot of this was covid. if the social medias were saying or allowing people to say negative things about covid, closing schools, shutting down businesses, wearing masks, the government would come in and push them around a, effectively censorship. but, senator, it's not only covid. this was hunter biden's laptop. this was the russian hoax stuff that they threw at trump all during his first term. this was -- and even today the cia and the fbi, i mean, you're going to go deep. this will have deep-rooted impact if you can g

. >> now , in 1941, george orwell >> now, in 1941, george orwell famously wrote, england is perhaps these intellectuals are ashamed of their own nationality. in his essay the lion and the unicorn . essay the lion and the unicorn. that's true today, isn't it? the very same notion is true today. we see it in academia. we see it in in the higher echelons of the media. we see it in the church. we see it in the home office. why? why has that taken hold this way? >> i simply don't understand it. it's utterly irrational . i mean, it's utterly irrational. i mean, george orwell also said, you know, a left wing intellectual would far rather be caught, stealing a poor box than to stealing from a poor box than to be seen standing for the national anthem. you know, that's the attitude of these people don't believe in people who don't believe in nafions. people who don't believe in nations . actually, they have nations. actually, they have this airy fairy of this airy fairy idea of internationalism , which has internationalism, which has actually caused more misery around world in last few around the

so i do on a regular basis, you know, when, when george orwell, who you mentioned, wrote 1984, a lot he was talking about stalin's russia, the soviet union. he was actually talking about his own experiences in the british information research department. and he was saying back then that britain in 1948 was at risk of becoming totalitarian like russia. >> and i'm afraid he called it 1984 because his publisher thought 1948 would be too frightening. on that happy note, thank you very much, nima. well, with me now is my panel, former brexit party mep and joana jaflue brexit party mep and joana jarjue rees—mogg, and the author and broadcaster amy nicole turner. amy, let me come to you first. you this report first. do you think this report is valuable contribution to is a valuable contribution to the and that do need the debate and that we do need more protections for people who feel intimidated freedom of feel intimidated by freedom of speech , can i just pick up on speech, can i just pick up on a bit of nonsense? he just said that he said the left are the ones are trying to clamp ones tha

you know what' wha's calles jimo that george orwell, who first talked about newspeak which is this controlled language, he was actually talking about colonizers what they werehis doing to the people they colonized. excehis is literally the peoplie that take great exception with anyone that was a colonizer usinewas a cog teche of colonizers. >> really? is that who theyreally?ha to be associated with? >> yeah. do you agree with dr v. drew on that point that went over my head? >> i disagret -- te. i'll say this, greg. i understood the point. ghter] i'm proud to say i'm pro colonizer. i colonizer. i know. and i was feeling young at heart. but spoinizer.eeling y al that cat. cat. >> what is your take on this? the story. you just continuur oe is as lon as the media asks about it. i keep trying to figure out todahe tryt why, do they actuale with the question? whthy are they doing this?wh >> i don't know why they're doing this, but it's certainlg this by a good way for nothing to ever get solved. i thint people agree.t th i mean, i love the fact that he actually said, you know,e i'm going to disrespe

i want to talk about orwell a my reaction coming to this case was similar to yours.ese are companies that have thr own rights. don't generally think of censorship as something from private people. it's the government. here's how i came around on this and maybe it will persuade you orbe i said this is something further up the food chain than that ordinary level of discourse. this is just the type of infrastrucre necessary to have any kind of discourse at all. that's like going bactohe telegraph. this isn't the level of discourse where they make our arguments built onth the infrastructure we need to have any rt if we say we want to have that type of infrastructure not to have censorship on it, that woulme we would have to have a massively increased federal government because it would have to control infrastructure. now you can't scminate based on this kind of infrastructure of how thingrkats well. for me, for these kind of things like telephones or telegphor voluntary communication or the next big machine, those type of. there has to be some sort of way were we can all

i'll tell you what orwell in his grave what george orwell in his grave must be spinning thinking why talk more about this and what's going happen. and what's going to happen. we've a comedian because he we've got a comedian because he comes cheap and it is of course, leo kearse leo, thank you very much for your company. >> good to be here. i've just got to correct you on one thing. the scottish police didn't bring this it was the snp this through. it was the snp humza in particular. he humza yousaf in particular. he was justice minister when the bill formulated . the bill was formulated. the scottish police federation have actually out against this actually spoken out against this bill because they say it moves from criminalising deeds to criminalising thought. and that's that's a huge issue . i that's that's a huge issue. i mean, this bill is so vaguely worded, basically, if anybody perceives anybody else as stirring up hatred based on, based on somebody's protected characteristics, which are, which are gender identity, race, age, things like that, then they can they can they can be

tolkien and george orwell are far right texts. >> $- >> they cannot define it accurately. you agree withd those other far right? >> i don't know the others, but look, i well, what do you do you think murray far think douglas murray is far right? went to see douglas right? no, i went to see douglas murray at a synagogue a couple of weekends ago to talk about murray at a synagogue a couple of vissueids ago to talk about murray at a synagogue a couple of vissue of ago to talk about murray at a synagogue a couple of vissue of israel, talk about murray at a synagogue a couple of vissue of israel, butk about murray at a synagogue a couple of vissue of israel, but you're! the issue of israel, but you're trying downplay the very trying to downplay the very serious i'm sorry, serious problem, and i'm sorry, but other week. only but only the other week. only the a far a white the other week, a far a white extremist was sentenced for threatening to kill 50 mps. only a ago, you had another a few years ago, you had another example group of example of proscribed group of far trying far right racists t

. >> staying in the people's democratic republic of scotland now, francis orwell and kafka continued rights. >> this is utterly heartbreaking. anyway, orwellian police scotland, police scotland blacklist blacklists of hate incidents threatens people's job prospects as the information can be handed to potential employers , and this is called a non—crime hate incident. so you could be involved in an incident where you don't get a criminal record, where you have not even been notified that you've got a non—crime hate incident. but you may think to yourself, do you know what? maybe i want to train to be a teacher. or maybe i want to be a teacher. or maybe i want to go into some kind of caring profession. they will then do an advance security check on you, which which well which will which might well bnng which will which might well bring non—crime hate bring up a non—crime hate incident, which means you wouldn't said job, i bet even. >> and i've just thought of one thing because i remember, some years ago when my children were young and you occasionally they would for parents to would as

discuss one of the most banned books of all time and one that is frighteningly relevant, george orwell's 1984. my guest, james mcallister and garrett conley, an author. tomorrow morning 10:00 a.m. eastern. of hea rt. you didn't wear a versace dress if you didn't want to be seen. >>> gianni versace was not for the faint of heart. you do not wear a versace address if you did not want to be seen. >> gianni versace was a true original . >> life always came with fireworks. >> i don't think there was a model that was not in love with him. >> he was on top of a mountain. >> andrew cunanan lusted for a taste of that world. >> versace seemed to personify a lot of what he wanted to be. >> oh i like that, i would want that. >> what was he willing to do to get it? he looked at me and said, you have no idea what i am capable of. >> there was a rug, there was a body outside. >> he killed a guy for his truck. >> cunanan really became the prime suspect. by that time, he was far away. >> it seemed like we were always when that behind him. >> andrew just walked up behind him and shot him. >> a lot of thin

it's almost like, well, almost like orwell said. fascists are much better with propaganda. >> it's easier, lying. >> they throw things against the wall. the trump camp said in the past, steve bannon has said, they'll throw so much stuff at the wall, they'll numb america. that's what they do every day. >> joe, it's hard for me to listen to this conversation. it's just so offensive for someone to tell me what it means to be a good jew. >> i know. >> it is just so beyond the pale. let me say that. let's put that aside for a second, if possible. i think there is an interesting kernel in this. what does it mean to be pro-israel? this association of pro-israel with bibi netanyahu or current israeli government policy, that's not what it means to be pro-israel. governments have been known for time in memorial to do things often against their own country's self-interest. we have done things in the united states. people opposed the iraq war, vietnam, you name it. doesn't mean you're anti-american. it means you have questions about the wisdom