>> i heard that osama bin laden is in washington, d.c. >> no, you did not. >> yes, i did. he he was a colleague of mr. bush in the old days. mr. been lawton -- mr. bin laden ever cooperated with iran. >> he said iran will defend itself against any hostilities. >>> and look at these clashes in the streets of athens today. tens of thousands of greeks are protesting harsh new spending cuts aimed at saving that country from bankruptcy. some protesters threw rocks at police, who then responded with tear gas. meantime, a massive strike has paralyzed that country, stopping all flights, trains, and even ferries. the imf and others are giving billions to keep grease from toppling into financial ruin. >>> set to come here on abc 7 news at noon, a disturbing new details on the massive tylenol recall. and some new questions about the teenager taser that the phillies game this week. later today on "oprah," the make over my man crew is back in action. that is [ woman ] with my diabetes... i make my efforts count... so i switched to the freestyle promise® program... a unique program that

is osama bin laden in tehran? >> translator: your question is laughable. >> why? e u.s. government has invaded afghanistan in order to arrest bin laden. they probably know where bin laden is. if they don't know whered bin laden is. that they don't know where bin laden is, why did they invade? is this logical? >> i think you didn't answer my question. is he in tehran or not? >> translator: our position is quite clear. some journalists say bin laden is in iran. these words don't have legal value. our position against terrorism is quite clear. >> is it true or not? >> translator: maybe you know. i do not. >> i'm asking you. you're the president of iran. >> translator: i don't know such a thing. you're asking it very strange. >> i'll ask it a different way. if you did know that osama bin laden is in tehran, would you show him hospitality? >> translator: i heard that osama bin laden was in washington, d.c. >> no, you didn't. >> translator: yes, i did. he's there. he was a previous partner of mr. bush. he was a colleague of his in the old days. mr. bin laden never cooper

we're talking about osama bin laden's political philosophy. he said to me that a book was in that bag. we were in the middle of thi dense pine forest, really far from civilization. i asked him, whose back is that? he mentioned that the bag had been left by a top official. i quickly grabbed my translator, and said we should head back to town. the guy's credibility was unquestionable. it did communicate that he was in these areas, and i think osama bin laden is, too. host: portland, ore.. janet, and our republican line. caller: i was wearing what the effect of the opium trade is on our policy in the middle east, and is there any news on osama bin laden being linked to the opium trade? guest: the opium trade is a great question. it is undoubtedly supporting the afghan taliban fight against american soldiers. i do not know the extent to which the opium trade -- the proceeds of the opium trade are making their way up to the pakistani taliban, and ultimately, to al qaeda. i do not think that osama bin laden, keeping a low prole, i do not think he is

is osama bin laden still a big concern. >> oh we're going to get him. we're going to get osama. we know a lot about lim. he's -- he's a terrible man who thinks that this is just a game and this isn't a game. come out, come out, wherever you are. sucker can hide. >> larry: you must be very pleased with the job that secretary state condoleezza rice is doing? >> i am. i'm -- condi is a fabulous secretary of state. she's a wonderful woman. very smart. keeps me informed. reads the newspapers. >> larry: some folks around the world see america as, frankly, a bit of a bully. >> well, i dare them to come say it to my face. look, larry, i am a uniter, not a divider. no, seriously. i can't divide. not worth a lick. but with condi's help, a wonderful secretary of state. i have learned to adapt to different cultures. now when i'm in russia, i walk like a russian. when i'm in egypt i walk like an egyptian. i'm sensitive now to different customs. and you know what they say? when in rome, do as the romanians do. >> larry: so you believe that we're making progress in the area of foreign policy?

largest air force base so we can move all of our assets out of saudi arabia into iraq to deprive osama bin laden the ability the land of the two holy mosques which is what he calls saudi arabia. and i was so stunned all like to think to say is we haven't caught bin laden yet, and anticipating that response, he said it is a done deal. the decision has been made. we are going to invade iraq. it turned out the associate deputy director, who i was working with, told me he had been informed in march of 2002, a full year before we went into iraq that this decision had been made. the senior officer went on to tell me that we were going to go to the united nations by the end of the year and we were going to pretend we wanted an international coalition. we knew the chinese, the russians and probably the french would oppose us and we were prepared to go along. we were going to wait until the spring and do it in march and that became my job for the next year working with the agency to come up with its response. >> host: and as you point out, that just meant we were taking our off the ball in afghanis

we're talking about osama bin laden's political philosophy. he said to me that a book was in that bag. we were in the middle of this dense pine forest, really far from civilization. i asked him, whose back is that? he mentioned that the bag had been left by a top official. i quickly grabbed my translator, and said we should head back to town. the guy's credibility was unquestionable. it did communicate that he was in these areas, and i think osama bin laden is, too. host: portland, ore.. janet, and our republican line. caller: i was wearing what the effect of the opium trade is on our policy in the middle east, and is there any news on osama bin laden being linked to the opium trade? guest: the opium trade is a great question. it is undoubtedly supporting the afghan taliban fight against american soldiers. i do not know the extent to which the opium trade -- the proceeds of the opium trade are making their way up to the pakistani taliban, and ultimately, to al qaeda. i do not think that osama bin laden, keeping a low profile, i do not think he

>> i heard that osama bin laden is in washington, d.c. washington, d.c. >> no, you didn't. >> yes, i did. he's there. >> you deny cats gorically he's in tehran today? >> rest assured that he's in washington. i think there's a high chance he's there. >> i don't agree, but thank you for your time, mr. president. >> ahmadinejad also insisted that iran will not back down on its nuclear program saying "we know how to defend ourselves." >>> our top political story tonight, signs that sea party candidates may not be the voters' cup of tea. two hard fought primaries yesterday went to mainstream republican candidates. ohio's race yet to be decided. the republican establishment not breathing a sigh of relief just yet. take a listen. >> three big states held primaries last night. those allegedly angry voters could have stormed the polls in droves and thrown out the bums. >> the key republican races, there were two in indiana. the incumbents won. the margin of victory was more narrow, but the tea party movement did not throw the bums out as you said.

teacher because of the time we didn't realize khalid sheikh mohammed was an al qaeda or pledged to osama bin laden abu zubaydah was probably a little bit lower ranking but still within the leadership. we knew that he was the commander of the larger of al qaeda's main trading camps in afghanistan. we knew he was a logistics whiz and by that i mean other al qaeda fighters described him as the hub of the wheel from which all of the spokes go out. he knew everybody. he was the middleman and he knew bin laden. we suspect at that time he may have had something to do with satori 11 attacks. i think in the end she was not directly involved but certainly was aware of al qaeda's operations and he knew the attacks were coming. so we started looking for them. finally, we heard that he was either in faisalabad or in nearby major pakistani city. host katella so you describe faisalabad. it wasn't new york. >> guest: know it was one of the worst places i've ever been in my life and i have been in terrible places around the world. i never felt so far away from home in my life as i did in faisalabad. it is a

george asked him a question about osama bin laden. listen. >> is osama bin laden in tehran?on is laughable. >> why? >> the u.s. government has invaded afghanistan in order to arrest bin laden. they probably know where he is. if they don't know where he is, why did they invade. first they invaded, then they try to find out where he is. is that logical. >> he went on to say in this interview, he heard that he was in d.c., because he had such good relationships with his partner, mr. bush. >> you know, i think it says it all, john, that it's laughable, right? this is the same guy that our president wants to sit down and negotiate with. >> they've not said they would sit down with him. they did say he wanted an engagement with iran. >> i think it's clear that our foreign policy strategy of sending iran once a year happy new year messages have not paid off. the guy is a serious threat to our allies. he wants israel taken off the map. it's tough for me to find anything comical about ahmadinejad, because i think he's such a risk to our allies and citizens in the states. >> you want

. >> in 000, ahmed rashid wrote about the taliban and the rise of osama bin laden. now with the 10th anniversary edition of his book, he looks at what's next on "q&a," tonight on c-span. >> now a look at red carpet arrivals of several celebrities and political figures who attended the white house correspondents determine last night. shortly after the arrival, a look at last night's dinner with featured speakers president obama and nbc's tonight show host jay leno. the white house correspondents association determine took place in washington, d.c., with almost 3,000 journalists, politicians, and celebrities attending the event. this is about 55 minutes. >> there's just three special women in this audience whose love and support i feel every single day. and i'd like to just acknowledge helen ferguson of sterling, virginia, my mother-in-law, nancy chen of portland, oregon, my mother, and my darling wife, meredith, who is the light of my life and with whom i'll be celebrating a 35th anniversary this year. and i would be remiss not to recognize the product of this happy

the second question is, why are we following osama bin laden's playbook? this is a hugely asymmetric war. mohammed with a rusty artillery sharing a few dollars worth of electronics and just one of our responses to that have cost us $40 billion. that is mrap's, one platform in response to that. osama bin laden is on the record as saying they will continue this guerrilla kind of war until they bleed us dry. so two questions please, weiss is not the ultimate exercise in futility and why are we following osama bin laden's playbook? >> congressman congressman in response to the first question i would draw a very sharp between the historical experience of many in afghanistan who were there to conquer, versus our mission in afghanistan which is to enable the development of afghan capacity to exert sovereignty, go over their own, over their own territory. i think your point about pakistan has informed the fact that we have taken a regional strategy. we need to pressure al qaeda and its associates and deny them safe haven on both sides of the border comment that is

. >> mahmoud ahmadinejad says he may know where osama bin laden may be. he says in d.c.may this in response to a claim that bin laden is living elsewhere. he claims bin laden and george bush were colleagues in the oil business and says mr. bush is harboring him. the white house is not responding to this accusation. >> investigators believe the suspect in a failed car bombing bought a gun to the bill months ago. michael bloomberg once terrorists suspected of being banned from buying guns. the task force began investigating faisal shahzad ins 2004. after becoming a u.s. citizen he moved his family back to pakistan. he has admitted he underwent bomb-making training. >>> the government issued a new requirement for airlines to check the no-fly list within two hours of changes. a check, the name of the bombing suspect, faisal shahzad, but the airline did not notice the notification that there was an addition to the no-fly list. authorities pull him off the jetliner and arrested him. >> conditions are cooling down, but they remain quite comfortable this evening. doug hill is he

the second question is, why are we following osama bin laden's playbook? this is a hugely asymmetric war. mohammed with a rusty artillery sharing a few dollars worth of electronics and just one of our responses to that have cost us $40 billion. that is mrap's, one platform in response to that. osama bin laden is on the record as saying they will continue this guerrilla kind of war until they bleed us dry. so two questions please, weiss is not the ultimate exercise in futility and why are we following osama bin laden's playbook? >> congressman congressman in response to the first question i would draw a very sharp between the historical experience of many in afghanistan who were there to conquer, versus our mission in afghanistan which is to enable the development of afghan capacity to exert sovereignty, go over their own, over their own territory. i think your point about pakistan has informed the fact that we have taken a regional strategy. we need to pressure al qaeda and its associates and deny them safe haven on both sides of the border comment that is

at the highest levels, but i believe that somewhere in this government are people who know where osama bin and al qaeda is, where mullah omar and the leadership of the afghan taliban is. and we expect more cooperation to help us bring to justice, capture or kill, those who attacked us on 9/11. >> pelley: but we're not getting that cooperation. >> clinton: well, we are. >> pelley: the question is why is this administration not pressuring pakistan to give up osama bin laden, his deputy, ayman al zawahiri. >> clinton: i have to stand up for the efforts the pakistani government is taking. they have done a very significant move toward going after the terrorists within their own country. >> pelley: even in light of the times square bomber, you are comfortable with the cooperation you are getting from the pakistani government? >> clinton: well, now, i didn't say that. i've said we've gotten more cooperation, and it's been a real sea change in the commitment we've seen from the pakistani government. we want more, we expect more. we've made it very clear that, if, heaven forbid, that an attack like

. >> we're not talking osama bin laden here. >> reporter: ripped from the headlines became became synonymhnd order. the scripts had to be a constant. >> we agreed to have her adjudicated legally insane. and then we make her our star witness. >> there is a kind of intelligence and integrity and there is really pushing to deem with important things. >> reporter: that is part of what kept sam waterson around for 17 seasons. >> that's exactly what an entertainment show with a brain ought to be doing. >> reporter: and "law & order" did. in its own basic style. >> you think i killed my son? >> reporter: for 20 seasons. >> looks like he was a business major. >> reporter: television as we know it changed. i don't think any television though after us will reach this milestone. >> reporter: the end of an era in more ways than one. mark barger, nbc news. ♪ >> because the cancellation of "law & order" came as a surprise to the writers, folks at nbc say it's possible that there could be an official sendoff episode or even a movie. >> they can always come up with one more, can't they? the reunion show.

the second question is why are we following osama bin laden's cycle? this is a hugely asymmetric war. mohammed with a rusty shall and electronics and just one of our responses has cost $40 billion, that is just one platform in response to that. osama bin laden is on the record saying they will continue this guerrilla war until they bleed dustin right. two questions. why is this not the ultimate exercise in its utility and why are we following osama bin laden's playbook? >> congressman, in response to the first question i would draw a sharp distinction between the historical experience of many in afghanistan who are there to conquer versus our mission in afghanistan which is to enable the development of afghan capacity to exert sovereignty over their own a territory. i think the point about pakistan has informed the fact we've taken a regional strategy. we need to pressure al qaeda and its associates and divide them safe haven on both sides of the border and that is exactly what our strategy is designed to do. support for the television in afghanistan i

so let's bring it back, the whole thing back to osama bin laden and clinton. not bush. host: we mentioned earlier that some looking at links with the taliban in western pakistan are suggesting retaliation might be a possible motive because of the increased use of u.s. runs. here is the leader -- because of the drones. here is what the writer is reporting. the next telephone call is from east newmarket, md., charlene. caller: i wanted to point out the similarity between the car bomb and the timothy mcveigh bomb. how he built the bomb was shown two weeks ago on a tv show. i think this guy is just a copycat. tried to force the connection with the taliban in pakistan, probably to increase our war effort there. but i think this guy is an independent actor, a copycat. host: in "the washington post" this morning -- for obama, weekly tutorials in terrorism. it is often on a tuesday. obama heads to a white house room to explore terrorism- related subjects in depth. next is the phone call from philadelphia, sheila, on the democrats' line. caller: i just cannot believe all the que

osama bin laden said there is no difference between the people why in new york on 9/11 and american soldiersthere are all the same. they're all guilty. we are all part of the western scientists hegemonic plot. this is preposterous. those people did not deserve that. there was not anything that this country did. if you want to change the middle east. if you want to take a plane and crashed into somewhere don't crash it into our buildings. i know where you can go. we are not your enemy. you attack americans commander going to pay a price. now we are there, and we are not leaving. >> host: a book i can recommend. the book that will make people think. want to thank you for taking time to chat with me. >> guest: it has been a pleasure. thanks a lot. ..

. >> that was in reference to osama bin laden. so those and a couple of other things that america's top law enforcer has said, like planning to try the 9-11 suspects near ground zero. that's caused the administration to back pedal at times and spin a little bit. is holder becoming a liability? bob and cal thomas, both of these guys write a great column for usa today and we're always happy to see you. thank you for being here. be honest with me, please, how badly did you cringe when you heard eric holder admit that he had merely glanced at the ten page arizona immigration law? come on. >> i'll answer that question, but can i say this about this previous story? can peter king whine any more? i mean, i've never seen a guy that whines more than congressman king. he's unbelievable. >> congressman king is always very gracious with his time with us and while i have those two -- >> as long as i get in front of the camera before he does, it's a dangerous place. >> back to eric holder. come on. >> going back to holder, the attorney general

. >> osama bin laden releasing tapes blaming the united states on global warming.n the united states blames the united states for global warming. i think he wants to quit al qaeda and join al gore. president has been promoting alternative energy. texas state university generates electricity when you exercise and generate power by exercising. you thought americans with hiring a lot of illegal aliens before. manuel, keep peddling. president obama threw out the first pitch at the washington nationals game against the philadelphia phillies. biden got kicked out for cursing the umpire. the pitch was not a good pitch, but to be fair, you are used to softball. i'm going to get fired again. i tell you something. a lot of critics felt that president bush did a better job getting the ball over the plate. but on the other hand, president obama can talk. so i think it balances. [laughter] >> as you know, president obama and the first lady, very much committed to education. in fact, here's their latest program. >> president obama says that a good education is everything to a ch

he also mocked osama bin laden in a historic piece.sage to all american infidels. prepare to die in a sea of holy fire. you will be punished for your decadent ways on the first day of radaman. wait. wait a minute. did i just say -- what did i say? radaman? blah blah blah. ramadan. radaman. what is that? yeah, maybe dennis radaman is going to punish you with his crazy hair. no. what is that? right, right. yeah, no. okay. okay. all right. let's go again. >> larry: do you get any flack on that? >> we didn't get any flack. i think probably the difference there is that bin laden is not a deity. >> larry: making fun of him. >> it struck us as kind of funny this very extreme situation set in this very mundane setting. he's got to keep doing takes and he can't not laugh. >> larry: did you ever get letters from the fcc? >> we have had a few what are called letters of inquiry i'm sure -- i don't know. i don't know if you've ever had any run-ins with the -- >> larry: a few in the past. what did you say and why did you say it? >> with ours, i thin

he didn't come from a theological background, nor does osama bin ladin who's an engineer. >> larry: we're with maazid in london. we have breaking news from susan candiotti in new york, what's up? >> reporter: we learned more about the accused bomber. the accused suspect made a dry run the night before the attempted attack. >> larry: i heard this before. >> what happened was, he drove his white isuzu down to the times square area and parked it several blocks away. and when he drove into times square in the pathfinder, he selected a street at random, pulled over. when the car started to fill with smoke, he got out of the car and then made a colossal mistake, because he realized he left the keys to his supposed getaway car in the pathfinder. he then had to make up another plan and ran to a train station instead and took a train back north to his home in connecticut. >> larry: thank you, susan candiotti on the scene in new york. we'll be right back. first this. [ female announcer ] switch to swiffer wetjet, and you'll dump your old mop. but don't worry. he'll find someone else. ♪ who's that l

may have spent time in an area known as a hot bed of radical islam, that's one of the places where osama bin laden himself received training many, many years ago. >> randall live in new york city, thank you for that. >>> tonight, students at the university of virginia are remembering yeardley love. her boyfriend, 22-year-old george huguely who was also a lacrosse player is charged with first-degree murder. peggy fox is on the campus to tell us more. >> here, student council members are planning a candle light vigil tonight to take place here at the ampitheater. people have been reflecting on the nature between the relationship of yeardley love and george huguely. >> the women center says the murder of four year student, yeardley love allegedly by her exboyfriend, four year student, george huguely is giving uva's community a painful education in domestic violence. >> no one saw it coming. >> the two lacrosse players relationship ended. huguely told them he kicked her bedroom door in, grabbed her, and slammed her head against the wall repeatedly. she was found dead. her face bruised so badly h

and your point that maybe some of them knew something about where osama bin laden exactly was, i think is a fair point. on afghanistan, i didn't get everything you said, but i am inclined to agree i think we had to go in income and assets of the time, one's mullah omar, they wouldn't give them up, he asked for evidence that bin laden was behind it. i think we went ahead and did it come and going after the al qaeda in afghanistan was exactly right. was the right thing to do. on hitler stuff and all the rest of it, look, hitler is and even banned. but i think as i said, i think 100 million people died, or 50 to 109 people died in the war in some of the greatest horrors happened, and all of europe, all of hitler's so-called eastern europe ended up under stalin for 50 years. you read the book, i don't know how you call that a good war. is dedicated to four of my mother's brothers, all of whom fought in that war. when i was a little kid these were our heroes. my brothers here is that i mean, when you are three to seven years old and you're all going to a silver star, and i was a very -- i t

[laughter] >> osama bin laden now releasing tapes blaming the united states for global warming.has run out of ideas. even the united states blames the united states for global warming. i think he wants to quit al qaeda and join al gore. president obama has been promoting alternative energy. texas state university has developed exercise equipment that operates electricity when you exercise in the hope that people will generate enough power from their home by exercising. you thought americans were hiring a lot of illegal aliens before snr manuel, keep peddling. last month, president obama threw out the first pitch at the nationals but biden got kicked off for cursing the umpire. the pitch was not a good pitch. but to be fair, you had just come from an interview and i think you were used to softball. i'm going to get fired again. i tell you something. a lot of critics felt that president bush did a better job of getting the ball over the plate. that's what they said. but on the other hand, president obama can talk. so i think it balances. [laughter] >> as you know, president obama

foreign combatant and picked up off the battlefield, i don't expect a private to be raised -- reading osama binaden his miranda rights. or the christmas day bomber should not have parental rights given to him. he was not an american citizen. the new york times bomber -- the times square bomber is a citizen and so was appropriate to give him his miranda rights. i personally hope if he is convicted, he is also accused of treason. we need to give the government more options to take someone who has demonstrated that they are in league with a foreign terrorist organization, to be tried in military tribunal and send to guantanamo. >> if you jumped in on mine, i'm quantitate 10 seconds to get the information -- you get the permission from the times square suspect before you give him the miranda rights. you reverse that and you're losing the opportunity to get valuable opportunity. >> we have to take a break right now. we will be right back. we're back at the museum of tolerance in west los angeles with a three republican candidates vying for the seat currently held by senator barbara boxer. we continu

there was an audio report from osama bin laden that sounded very desperate.ed to be the base grievance. of a sudden, he was tking about climate change, corruption on wall street. the grievances have expanded, so long as the recruitment is down a little bit. host: you mentioned the john kerry-dick lugar bill. g. culp i think the cynicism and skepticism toward american policy, the bill was intended to support civilian institutions at the expense of just giving money to the army anthat in the pakistani government deal with it. yet, when this bill came out, because there were elements that tried to give up the civilian government influence overhe army's promotion process, the pakistani people were up in arms that the u.s. was trying to influence the policy. host: louisville, ky. republican line. caller: i was wondering if you could differentiate between the pakistani taliban and the afghan taliban. what binds them together? is it religious ideology or political ideology? if you hear so much about each one, and what are tir relationships and their differences? gue

. >> osama bin laden releasing tapes blaming the united states on global warming. the united states blames the united states for global warming. i think he wants to quit al qaeda and join al gore. president has been promoting alternative energy. texas state university generates electricity when you exercise and generate power by exercising. you thought americans with hiring a lot of illegal aliens before. manuel, keep peddling. president obama threw out the first pitch at the washington nationals game against the philadelphia phillies. biden got kicked out for cursing the umpire. the pitch was not a good pitch, but to be fair, you are used to softball. i'm going to get fired again. i tell you something. a lot of critics felt that president bush did a better job getting the ball over the plate. but on the other hand, president obama can talk. so i think it balances. [laughter] >> as you know, president obama and the first lady, very much committed to education. in fact, here's their latest program. >> president obama says that a good education is everything to a chi

in 1998 saddam hussein declared war on america -- osama bin laden declared war on america but we didn't pay attention to it. hass it going to take for our leaders to understand that radical islamic terrorists want to murder our people? law enforcement in new york, federal, state and city have done an incredible job in a short amount of time to apprehend the times square terrorist, despite dangerous political games being played by some officials. in spite of politics, our lawmen acted swiftly, efficiently and effectively in the capture of this terrorist. but new york city mayor told the media, quote, if i had to guess 25 cents, this would be homegrown, maybe a mentally deranged person, someone with a political agenda that doesn't like the health care bill. or something. now, isn't that helpful? the times square terrorist, faisal shahzad, was not a tea party going taxpayer, opposed to obamacare. there's no excuse for this reckless smear of the majority of americans who oppose the government takeover of health care. it's irresponsible to play political games with national security. and eve

if you put five on one side and five on the other, i would be on the side that it matters to have osama bin. if we knock him out tomorrow, would al-qaeda fall apart? no. would it matter if we took he and his deputies out of the question? i think it would be a major important step. host: james, independent line, you were on with michael sheehan. caller: as formally with the anti-terrorism division of the new york police department, i wonder, in terms of the tremendous amount of money and legacy cost that i see wasted toward the industry of protecting us from domestic terrorism, i see the police checking trucks on the roads. all the truckers who i know say the police have absolutely no idea what they're looking for. it is all a straight. when i see police cars sitting on the bridges of new york, the police are usually sitting there reading the books for the next police exams, or reading the newspaper. is this all a charade? how much of the percentage of anti-terrorism money is being spent on such strcharades? guest: i've never been a huge fan of action such as spot checks and stopping of vehi

every nook and cranny, every rook, and we can report that osama bin laden is not here. it was the interview. the president. >> in the greater state of washington? >> just the confines. but it was reported by the president that he's here in washington. thank you for laughing. >> let's hope you don't find him here. >> i'm pretty confident. i'm pretty confident of that. >> i don't know. there's some strange looking people out here in the cafeteria. [laughter] >> on pakistan, can you be a little bit more specific on the conversation that ambassador mitchell and holbrooke had? >> in what respective? the investigation is obviously ongoing. the fbi and just disdepartment are in the lead. pakistan is taking its own steps. and we expect we'd do more as more information is yielded through this investigation. so i think, you know, we have full and complete cooperation from pakistan. we are hardened by that. and we will move forward step by step as we go through this and try to determine, you know, who else might be implicated. >> yeah, but what did they talk about? >> i mean. >> d

if you put five on one side and five on the other, i would be on the side that it matters to have osama binladen. if we knock him out tomorrow, would al-qaeda fall apart? no. would it matter if we took he and his deputies out of the question? i think it would be a major important step. host: james, independent line, you were on with michael sheehan. caller: as formally with the anti-terrorism division of the new york police department, i wonder, in terms of the tremendous amount of money and legacy cost that i see wasted toward the industry of protecting us from domestic terrorism, i see the police checking trucks on the roads. all the truckers who i know say the police have absolutely no idea what they're looking for. it is all a straight. when i see police cars sitting on the bridges of new york, the police are usually sitting there reading the books for the next police exams, or reading the newspaper. is this all a charade? how much of the percentage of anti-terrorism money is being spent on such strcharades? guest: i've never been a huge fan of action such as spot checks and stopping of

osama bin laden poses a direct threat. if we kill him he would be a martyr.igger question is will it anger more people than the degree to make us safe . >> that is a question. does it anger more people by going after the guy and is this guy so important to go after. >> based on the information that is available. it is a question that i can't answer . we don't know his position in al qaeda and the arabian peninsula. he is linked to a couple of terrorist plots. you mentioned al-hashan and shahzad attempt. we don't know his role. it is difficult to ark sess if he played the role of someone in the grapped stands or played an active role in urntaken that shooting . >> there is another -- also reports that he counciled the 9/11 hijackers is a dangerous, dangerous, man. >> thank you. >> if lawmakers approve elena kagan on the bench. moms underrepresented on the court. fair and balanced is next. >> and arizona's immigration law . how can you challenge it? >> people who espouse a version of islam. >> are you uncomfortable attributing that to radical islam. >> i don't

attacked on 9/11 by al qaeda, who was given safe harbor by the taliban and they refused to turn over osama bin laden. we gave logistical support to the anti-taliban forces and more than a light and spirit they pushed the taliban out. we made a wrong turn. we should have used our leverage to form some type of governance to prevent the anti- taliban forces into some type of governance that fit the political cost of the country. instead, we pushed them aside. they got the government that wanted and now we are defending that. it is what it is. i think we have to see it through to some reasonable level. i think this is not the direction the country should go and i think we should support factions in their region that share our strategic interest in respect of the government's of that given country. host: does that mean not supporting karzai in certain regions? guest: now that we are there, we have to see it through. i think we have to support the political process. i think we are there and i think we have to support this process through. going forward, we have to rethink this out and this whole not

predator droens in places like pakistan -- drones in places like pakistan, for example if we killed osama binaden tomorrow morning is that not in danger of the president of the united states? is that a good trade-off? i think that we get into dangerous areas when we start unmanned warfare. it looks like we are setting the stage for retaliation. host: to lead editorial today -- host: the lead editorial today in "the new york times" today, "exploding personnel costs will increasingly crowd out financing for new weapons." guest: that is very true. the military has a wonderful medical care system. they get raises every year. it seems to me that the secretary is right when he says that we have to start cutting these human costs. host: they conclude with this, "mr. gates is an old hand in washington. but if there's any doubt about what he is up against, the house subcommittee reminded him last week. they added $400 million to the $9,000,000,000.2010 request for missile defenses -- they added $400 million to the $9 billion request for missiles for the 2011 budget. -- budget." barry, good morning. ca

without american involvement there, the reason we're there is that the taliban did not hand over osama binaden nine years ago. you know, that is a very slim reason to be fighting there. it is really all about the drug's there and a platform to attack pakistan. and to create all kinds of problems. host: let's go to twitter where we have a message. this call is from wisconsin, sue. on the line for democrats. caller: good morning. i have a comment about else. i think that if we left afghanistan and got the heck out heckiraq, broadcom our troops home who are dying for nothing, then we would have less terrorism over there because we would not be out of they're terrorizing everyone -- if we got the heck out of iray and afghanistan and brought our troops home. host: it says a by president karzai that we greatly value and want to strengthen the strategic partnership. we have traveled for together. but the international effort in afghanistan still has miles to go. we're not yet delivering security to large portions of the country. what do you think about that? caller: i don't know if karzai is to b

but when we're fighting elsewhere and trying to shut off the skate for osama bin laden, widowrecountedff on local, tribal people who allowed him to escape. the issue was a deliberate choice. why? maybe it was easier to sell to the american public, or was it because there were over- confident in the ability of the forces? there was much debate. it was not the issue that the force was not capable. it was large and capable. it was a matter of how to use the force. that is where bush and rumsfeld have come in for legitimate criticism. host: texas. caller: i'm in the district of ron paul. he says we're spending all this money on wars going broke and these are not for america, but for israel. host: we will leave it there. guest: it raises a great point --defense is not what is draining the federal economy, at less than one-fifth of the economy. the argument that somehow defenses bankrupt in america is simply not true. host: james, the heritage foundation, a defense expert. he is also director of the center for foreign and policy studies. bernard is a senior fellow at the american security pr

. >> in 2000, he wrote about the taliban and the rise of osama bin laden. with the 10th anniversary edition of his book, he looks at what is next. sunday night on c-span. >> sunday, on both tv -- on booktv, pat buchanan on conservative ideology and today's political climate. he will take your calls and e- mails. three hours with pat buchanan. sunday, noon, c-span2. >> iranian leader ahmadinejad is that -- is scheduled to speak monday on a conference on nuclear proliferation. find key moments from his past speeches at d.c.'s ban video library. every program since 1987. watch what you want when you want. >> "washington journal" continues. host: joining us now is andrew conneen. also joining us is daniel larsen. they're both teachers at adlai stevenson high school. if i am in a key government student, what am i doing this weekend? guest: we are here to cram for the exam. this is the first step in a lifestyle of civic participation. we are building a new participation of the voters. host: tell us about the exam. guest: almost 2000 students on monday will be tak

these are the people that gave safe haven to osama bin laden for -- from 1991 to 1996. president obama must empower secretary clinton and ambassador wright to take control of this faltering policy. time is running out. lives hang in the balance. a stalemate policy in sudan is not an option. president obama must act. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from new york rise? >> to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. arcuri: thank you, madam speaker. improving our rail infrastructure isn't just about getting people and goods here from there faster and more efficiently. it's the heart of regional economic development, connecting communities, businesses, consumers and producers to foster the kind of economic growth and job creation we as a nation need. our short line railroads are just at the center of this, but because the tax extenders act of 2009 has not been enacted into law, they have been unable to plan vital maintenance

is not something i was not informed but i was aware that and it is similar maybe they knew where osama bin laden was and i think it is a fair point*. with afghanistan i did i get everything that you said but i do think we did have to go win once they would not give him up, i think to that with al qaeda in afghanistan is exactly right. hitler is an evil man 100 million people died in the war and some of the greatest scorers happen in day and up under stalin 40 or 50 years. i don't know how you call that a good war if it is dedicated to four of my mother's brothers who fought in the war they were our heroes your uncle wins the silver star. i thought it was a wonderful would venture in the more you read about it you read the war and suffering of so many people these brits are not bad people why in heaven's name panic? let me say this. read the chapter on the war guarantee. i could not find a historian or contemporary figure except churchill himself initially thought the war guarantee was a good idea. within the week churchill said wait a minute this does not mean we have to go to war for dan

for all we know on you cut osama bin laden could be voting. please note that not a handful of organized gotcha republicans are going to control this legislature. the speaker pro tempore: are there further one-minute requests? the chair lays before the house the following personal requests. the clerk: leave of be a requested for ms. jackson lee of texas for today and for the balance of the week. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the request is honored. for what purpose does the gentleman from texas rise? mr. poe: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent that today following legislative business and any special orders heretofore entered into the following members may be permitted to address the house, revise and extend their remarks and include therein extraneous material. mr. mcclintock for today for five minutes. myself, mr. poe, for may 27 for five minutes. and mr. jones for may 27 for five minutes. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. for what purpose does the gentleman from texas rise? >> mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent th

. >> in 2000, he wrote about the rise of the taliban and osama bin laden. >> we are alive now at the university of michigan in ann arbor. president obama is to address the graduating class at the university of michigan. the president of the university, mary sue coleman , is speaking now before the introduction of president obama. you're watching live coverage, here on c-span. [applause] >> it is taken the lessons learned here, again at our beck, to the most challenged school different -- school districts in the country. if this is a class as work to rebuild haiti, support military veterans, collect surplus supplies for those without, and safeguard our natural environment. four of the five graduates have taken part in community service. some of you today are wearing red cords that recognize the depth of your engagement. michigan students have stepped forward to give more than 35,000 days of service in one year. [applause] >> mr. president, this has placed the university of michigan on the president's higher education on a roll with distinction, but we can, a

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. >> in 2000, he wrote about the began and the rise of osama bin laden. now with the 10th anniversary addition ofs book, he looks at what is next. "q & a," sunday night on c-span. >> a c-span voy library video fact. there are 6,000 references to abraham lincoln in our video library. you will find lots of interesting programs on line. and for a contemporary perspective in print, there is c-span's book, abraham lincoln, now in paper back at your favorite book seller. >> next, a congressional hearing on mining and work place safety and the big branch west virginia coal mine explosion that killed 27 workers. first, remarks from tom har ken of iowa. there is 3:15. [inaudible conversations] >> the senate committee on health education and labor will please come to order. the topic of today's hearing couldn't be more timely or more important in the wake of the west virginia coal mine disaster the refinery explosion and course washington where seven workers died. a disaster that killed six people of the connecticut gas power plant and just last week a blast from t