this tiny country that, because it has osama bin laden and nuclear weapons, is on a world stage with the u.s. and other super powers. the u.s. cannot save afghanistan without dealing with pakistan. the president keeps saying that, every administering says that but they don't really take the action that is needed to change what is happening on the ground in that region. and that is without question going to be the biggest problem he has to deal with. >> schieffer: chip reid out in hawaii, we keep hearing the president is going to shake up the team next year. what's that amount to? >> bob, we've been hearing that for a year-- it never happened. every time somebody leaves, they bring in somebody from the inside. i think they're going to continue to promote from the inside, may bring in outsiders but probably be people who were tested by having been in the clinton administration. and speaking of the clinton administration, you know they like to say they're not going to model the next two years after what bill clinton did after his shellacking in 1994. but on the beach here couple of days

we tried hard to get osama bin laden but not at the expense of subjecting our own people to death or a situation we could not assist them in the process. >> host: and taking something from 100 to 300 aircraft or other moving parts in a small unit into afghanistan. >> guest: exactly, and maybe we have one here brann i.t. you may recall came up where we think he is going to board a civilian airliner and fly to chechnya and we want you to be prepared and have a couple of f-16s on standby that can shoot down this aircraft and our response to that is how do we know he is even on the aircraft and what happens if he's not on the aircraft? you recall at one point we thought we had him in kandahar but if we thought your missiles in kandahar and didn't get him we were going to kill 300 individuals, women and children included without any assurance whatsoever that he was there and one particular case we elected not to do it we found out later we would have missed him by three hours had we done that but we have about 300 people there were killed and we would have been branded as terrorists ourse

we will hear from author and filmmaker and neighbor of osama bin laden next. [ phones ping, buzz ] [ laughs ] that's so dumb. [ laughter ] nice. [ male announcer ] don't be left behind. get it first with at&t. the nation's fastest mobile broadband network. period. rethink possible. >>shepard: this is "studio b" time for the tonight news. president obama meeting early today with top national security advisor to finalize the assessment of the afghanistan war strategy. results are expected day after tomorrow. the progress report comes a year after the president ordered an additional 30,000 troops to afghanistan. at that time, he promised to begin a withdrawal in 18 months. of course today's meeting comes a day after the death of the president's special envoy to afghanistan and pakistan. top u.s. officials in washington and kabul have called the death a tremendous loss to the country. with us now is the terror expect, former neighbor of osama bin laden, and filmmaker, live from san diego. dying words were "you have to end the war in afghanistan." he took a different public tone and he re

we launched the missiles and had been on a range unfortunately we did not get osama bin laden but it wasn't because we didn't try and we did get a number of other terrorists training in the camp at the time so joe did surface for the nation and was there just in case his services were needed. >> host: so he was there as the missiles were flying over and he could have been talked to his counterpart and said it's okay they are not in the7 missiles.7?3 >> guest: exactly. >> host: you have done a lot of leadership and you talk about leadership and also head up a center on leadership at north carolina state. could you talk about how do you identify the leaders, how do you chrome them? is it something they have in a flea? how do you build leaders for the future in the military? >> guest: we have a great system and the military itself but let me go to the leadership. i was fortunate when i retired from the chairman that my all modern wanted to establish a leadership center in my name and basically focus on young people starting at high school level into college and then even have a sick mot

osama bin laden was and were protecting him years ago. they are on both sides of the fed said that simply cannot be for a true ally. host: next is smyrna, tennessee, on our line for democrats. arnold, go ahead. guest: how are you? yes, sir, i was wondering if you have ever heard of a web site called patriotsquestion9/11.com. the web site contains more than 3000 into a highly educated and very intelligent professionals, including half of the 9/11 commission. what this website is about, it is simply asking for a second investigation into 9/11. there are hundreds of college professors who have put their name on this website. hundreds of politicians, including several senators. i think three or four of them are currently sitting senators, and the rest are former. dennis kucinich has put his name on here. ron paul has put his name on this website and walter mondale has put his name on this website. this website is not a bunch of guys, you know, folks running around wearing tinfoil hats, saying that 9/11 needs to be reinvestigated. one other we

will we get osama bin laden? my answer is yes we will get him. is just a matter of time but with all the intelligence we have focused on him he is just got to make one mistake. he is very good the way he operates. >> host: can you talk about the one time he thought he really had an opportunity to get bin laden and he called the services of your great vice chair, and joseph olson? >> guest: we thought at one time we had a chance to get him because he was occasionally at some of the training camps in afghanistan. and in order to do that we were going to have to fire missiles that would go through the airspace. they launched tomahawk missiles coming out of either submarines or ships at sea but they would have to fly across pakistan. our concern was if the pakistanis picked up on these missile flying through their airspace with their radar, they might think it was india launching a nuclear attack and they might respond accordingly. i asked vice chairman ross and if he would use his friendship with the army chief of staff and fly into pakistan and hav

so at the end of the day, some government secret services have certain agendas around having osama bin kind of image there. - a boogeyman. - exactly, but in my view, i don't think serious people think that he's still alive. - very interesting. you got my attention there. but let's end, stéphan, on entrepreneurship. what would you say to entrepreneurs out there? not everybody is in the same situation, but if you had to give kind of a précis--you know, ten commandments--what to do if they're still in trouble, what would you tell them? - well, i think the first thing, the aspect of being possibility thinkers is number one. the second one, i think, is what i call becoming a "q4 leader". you know, when you're a public company, q4 is always the "must get done" kind of quarter, and i think today, everyone needs to be a q4 leader every single quarter, and all your team needs to be very focused on that. three, the passion. i think passion as an entrepreneur is remembering why we started this business as entrepreneurs, why we went through so many crises when each time we were told it was impossi

they're giving osama bin laden and his network shelter, but osama bin laden is running his own network. if and when osama bin laden and the taliban are removed the problem will not disappear. >> warner: it had not. by early 2009, holbrook now appointed to have the diplomatic effort in afghanistan and pakistan spoke of the challenges facing the obama administration as it tried to chart a new way forward there. you're saying it's too early at this point for the obama administration to define how it sees victory in afghanistan? >> well, first of all, the victory is is defined in purely military terms is not achievable. i cannot stress that too highly. i think it will more difficult than iraq. it's already longer than iraq. it's the second longest military engagement in american history. no one should expect a quick success here. >> warner: five weeks later holbrook and general david petraeus explained the president's new dual focus on afghanistan and pakistan. >> the critical issue here is to integrate our afghan policy and our pakistan policy which have essentially been stove piped to re

osama bin ladins first assistant. spent two-years in gann tan know bay in cuba and he's running large camp and just down that the united states, 212 mash units. what's going on is they're agenda is to get people to be dependent and indoctrinate the violent islam. unfortunately we're a nonprofit in the states if we go into the camps or talk with anybody there we're affiliating with a terrorist organization and shut down by the, irs so we created a viral incubator for terrorists similar to what happened in afghanistan in 99. i showed this on capitol hill and they told me this was a classified photo. i took this beside the road here and you know, just to - i think this is news that should be broadcast all over. that the international community, pakistan government, nobody cares about the education of those children. one dollar per month child instead we're sending 9 $20,000 tomahawk cruise my siels when the cost of one we could build 50 schools and over a generation to educate 10,000 children. do you think that photo sho

. >>> dicen que este personaje es más peligroso que osama bin laden. >>> y la amenaza cambió, también estadounidenses enfrentaron cargos de terrorismo, estados unidos no es el único objetivo, un artefacto explosivo apareció en roma, la policía dijo que no tenía detonador, el gran susto se une a una preocupación mundial. 12 hombres fuerron arrestados en inglaterra. las autoridades toman medidas pero reconocen que no pueden estar en todas partes. >>> tenemos que cooperar y ayudar a los policías en todo lo que sea identificación de personas sospecsas. >>> la temporada de fiesta resulta atractiva para los terroristas, y hoy se avacuo el edificio de naciones unidas, al final resultó un desborde de agua residuales. estu es lo que tengo por ahora. >>> gracias, lourdes. y enseguida el jefe diego le pide a los reporteros que abandonen su casa. el presidente chávez amenaza con un despliegue militar. y un saludo de navidad de uno de los soldados americanos. >>> quiero ♪(música) >>> en méxico el ex candidato diego fernández dijo que lo que los secuestraron fue por dinero y razones ideologicas, y

it is not osama bin laden only. there is lashkar-e-taiba, many number of terrorist organization exist things which now has links with organized crime. because there is no way that a person can travel or send money without the symbiotic relationship between organized crime and terrorism. and that is the heart of the problem. by pakistani politicians will never allow a counterterrorism force because there are links there. if you go to karachi, why should the mqm oral the people's party about counterterrorism force there? because when a counter is a -- counterterrorism force operates there they will go after their strongholds. they will go after the weapons that are there. they will go after their bases, their sources of supply and logistics. obviously the counterterrorism force does not create any -- in karachi and in pakistan today. now, you know i do agree we have had a tremendous year. obviously india is a great impression and i think they must have a admired

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street if the united states wasn't propping up on while a lockie of the sort of second coming of osama bin laden i think it's goes to show how little we've learned from the boogeyman days of bush and cheney and how our own policies in danger us more in many cases that his policies on the surface american leaders are motivated by the fear of one day receiving a parcel bomb but some say disaster has other layers of motivation you're not going to make the technology of a letter bomb go away by attacking what you think is al-qaeda in yemen you're just going to make it move to another place u.s. government is basically very much into a marketing campaign to make these things look like the government is being effective in light of modern u.s. wars and their coverage in the media we've learned that the objective pros and cons of waging a military campaign can be mutate whenever fear comes into the picture and fear can justify almost anything going to check on our t. washington d.c. . now you can get more now on that story and other stories on our web site that's at dot com let's take a quick look

. >> reporter: if osama bin laden, wherever he is, needed a to-do list, he's got one now, courtesy of wikileaks: a secret state department cable listing sites around the world vital to u.s. national security and public health. >> i mean, leaking a list that purports to lay out critical infrastructure is like painting a target on the companies or the entities which are listed. >> reporter: former secretary of homeland security michael chertoff was once responsible for what's called the national infrastructure protection plan. the list of overseas facilities goes on for four single-spaced pages covering the globe, from mines in africa that produce critical minerals to labs in europe that manufacture life- saving drugs. want to find the most critical gas facility in the world? according to the document, it's the nadym gas pipeline junction in russia. how about a critical irreplaceable source of power in portions of northeast u.s.? just google "hydroquebec" in canada or maybe the plant in preston, england, that makes parts critical to the f-35 joint strike fighter. >> some of the infrastr

eric holder says he puts him on the list right up there with osama bin laden. >> nicole, does the united states have any idea what to be looking out for? >> reporter: well, i can tell you that a very small dose of these poisons is lethal. 250 milligrams. michael chertoff came out and we heard from experts saying the initial stages of this kind of poisoning look like food p oisoning, very similar. so they believe that's important for the public to know. >> nicole collins reporting live from washington. >> thank you. >>> well, the s.e.c. is now investigating why mark hurd was forced out of his position as hewlett pack ward's ceo. "the wall street journal" reports the ceo is looking into his expense reports and claims that he gave inside information about the company's acquisition of electronic data systems in 2008. those claims came from and were later retracted by the woman who said hurd sexually harassed her. >>> toyota will pay a record fine to settle an investigation into how it handled safety problems with millions of vehicles. the world's largest automaker has agreed to a nearly $ 32

factions in the south, and moreover, if you want to, you should provide that telephone number for osama bin laden. [laughter] >> this gentleman over here. >> this is for them again. any indication of aqim connected cells or individual inside europe engaging in lower level distribution on a consistent basis? >> frankly, there is a lot. a few weeks ago, a few days ago, there is an american citizen arrested in barcelona for doing some stuff for aqim. again, there is no membership card. we're not talking about the scandinavian political party either. that is fussy and hard, that connection that can be for sure is who has contacted to, and to intelligence thinks. but in many ways, the old name of the group in europe in the 1990's is still more or less there. there is still remaining at work, more central than the guys who had been freed, and some of these guys can have connections. that is moving, but by definition they are there. they were in canada a few years ago. in the u.s., actually, i do not know. you have an algerian community in the u.s., so maybe that is also here. that does not mean t

said an american member of al qaeda, radical cleric anwar al awlaki, may be a greater threat than osama bin laden himself. al awlaki, holder said, is a clear and present danger. >> he'stremely dangerous man. he has shown a desire to harm the united states. >> reporter: the u.s. suspects al awlaki, had a recent scheme to blow up cargo planes. >> he's a person, an american citizen, familiar with this country. and he brings a dimension because of that american familiarity that others do not. >> reporter: and where would you rank him? or can you rank him? >> he's on the same list with bin laden. he's up there. one, two, three, four. i don't know. he's on the list of people that worry me the most. >> reporter: does the u.s. have a presence, in terms of al awlaki, dead, prosecuted or captured? >> we want to neutralize him. we'll do whatever we can to do that. >> reporter: al awlaki also allegedly encouraged the ft. hood gunman. his teachings and writings have been discovered on computers. one of the things that struck me is how many people have been radicalized online. >> the ability to go into y

. >> larry: osama bin laden is still at large. why? >> because we haven't caught him. don't know where he is. he is somewhere i'm reasonably sure -- >> larry: he is living? >> i have no reason to believe he is not living but you can't prove it. every six months or a year out comes a tape that suggests he's still living. but he has proven himself to be a master at hiding himself. people think it's easy to find somebody who is making every effort not to be found. i faced this in a number of situations with all of our satellites, with all of our electronic means, with all of our spies. still, people are able to hide from us for an extended period of time. couldn't catch manuel noriega right away in panama. i couldn't catch mr. adede in somalia right away. it's not easy to find somebody who knows how you're looking for them. >> larry: somebody that tall? >> somebody that tall. well, we haven't found him. it's been ten years now. we still haven't found him. and he is still a force. but here is an important point. he's not walking around giving television interviews and he i

number five, someone posing as osama bin laden. not falling for that.m steven colbert in honor of oil soaked birds tweets are now gurgles. cobert had the number one slot. justin bibler may be the winner within made the top 10 and two others are about him. >> festivus miracle. inmate in a jail in california had jerry seinfeld to thank. as you may know the sitcom seinfeld popular rised a made up holiday called festivus. an inmate in a jail in california wanted healthier kosher meals behind bars. how did he justify the special treatment? he said festivus was part of his religion and demanded a certain diet. the state of california caught on to the scam. as for the prisoner apparently from lie -- liberia held by ice and facing deportation. maybe they have festivus in liberia. >> this is the definition of poor sportsman ship. a basketball player has been suspended from school for attacking a ref over a call he did not like. the player was tkhreupbl rent on several levels. first he -- was belligerent on several levels. he pushed a player, pushed a ref and thr

when we first interviewed him, he said he loved osama bin laden and that the september 11th attacks weree, saying he never encouraged anyone. do you believe him? judge for yourself. and they call him the prince of pork, what's surprising is this republican will be the new chairman of the congressional committee that decides how tax dollars are spent, even some republicans are saying it sends a very mixed message. we'll tell you who the congressman is. keeping them honest, those stories and more at top of the hour. >> larry: must upset the tea party. anderson cooper, with us at 10:00 eastern and 7:00 pacific. back right after this. until one day, my daughter showed me a designer handbag. and like that, we had a new side to our business. [ male announcer ] when businesses see an opportunity, the hartford is there. protecting their employees and property and helping them prepare for the future. nice boots. nice bag. [ male announcer ] see how the hartford helps businesses at achievewhatsahead.com. whoa! that achy cold needs alka-seltzer plus! it rushes multiple cold fighters, plus a powerfu

our networks were scooped with a sympathetic zedroga bill story by the same network that osama bin ladenix tapes to. this is insane. i would like to see one of these senators have the balls to explain why somehow getting a tax extension for wealthy americans is more important than serving ground zero workers. >> we need to get the issue addressed for the firefighters and the 9/11 victims. there is a deadline, january 1, we have to get this done, taxes go up on january 1. >> yes, there are only two sure things in life, death and taxes. apparently the only one this cat cares about is taxes. >> letters to santa, asking not for toys but for basics. how you can help, next. of an effervescent packed in a liquid-gel for all over relief! hiyah! dude! hi, may i help you? >>> christmas is just over a week away and for many of us, that means getting together with family and friends and of course the exchanging of gifts. as it was immortalized in the great christmas classic "miracle on 34th street" it also means the post office is getting an enormous amount of mail to santa claus. due in large part

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administration there were leading democrats who criticized the president, the cia, for being unable to find osama bint we're not hearing that kind of criticism of president obama for not being able to track down this assange guy. apparently ought to contact "time" magazine. they were able to find him and do an interview with him. >> sean: it's funny, because we've got this wikileaks guy, apparently in the uk, and apparently he's harder to find -- as hard to find as bin laden. >> it's unbelievable. this guy has done incalculable damage to our security and our allies. why is he able that he's able to run loose? we don't know. >> this is the third time that this man has leaked material, valuable national security material. why did it take until now for the administration to all of a sudden be outraged? they should be out there talking to our allies from -- >> they have been outraged. secretary clinton made it clear that she remains outraged. i don't think you can blame the administration for this. >> i don't think they've done everything they can. >> the most passing thing is this private first class br

don't have the right to build mosques because she is opposed, like we're all opposed, to the sins of osama bin i don't like her equating us with him. that's wrong. >> so if someone is watching this program, you basically are wanting to say, what? >> i want to tell her that we would like some dialogue with her. that two years goes really fast. if she can't represent us in two years we'll find someone who can. we have a right to have our voice heard in washington, d.c., she's taken the responsibility of doing that and she represents all of the people. her district is not a jigsaw puzzle where she can pick pieces and discard the rest. she's accountable to us now and she needs to recognize that fact and give us the respect that we deserve. >> i appreciate you being on and let us know if you get a call back. thank you. >> thank you. >> up next, the unforgettable disturbing scene from earlier this week, a gunman opening fire point blank range at the school board meeting. tonight i talk with the hero who kept this story from being more tragic than it already was. mike jones, who stopped the shooter,

factions in the south, and moreover, if you want to, you should provide that telephone number for osama binen. [laughter] >> this gentleman over here. >> this is for them again. any indication of aqim connected cells or individual inside europe engaging in lower level distribution on a consistent basis? >> frankly, there is a lot. a few weeks ago, a few days ago, there is an american citizen arrested in barcelona for doing some stuff for aqim. again, there is no membership card. we're not talking about the scandinavian political party either. that is fussy and hard, that connection that can be for sure is who has contacted to, and to intelligence thinks. but in many ways, the old name of the group in europe in the 1990's is still more or less there. there is still remaining at work, more central than the guys who had been freed, and some of these guys can have connections. that is moving, but by definition they are there. they were in canada a few years ago. in the u.s., actually, i do not know. you have an algerian community in the u.s., so maybe that is also here. that does not mean that

when we first interviewed him, he said he loved osama bin laden and that the september 11th attacks were a different tune, saying he never encouraged anyone. do you believe him? judge for yourself. and they call him the prince of pork, what's surprising is this republican will be the new chairman of the congressional committee that decides how tax dollars are spent, even some republicans are saying it sends a very mixed message. we'll tell you who the congressman is. keeping them honest, those stories and more at top of the hour. >> larry: must upset the tea party. anderson cooper, with us at 10:00 eastern and 7:00 pacific. back right after this. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] here's hoping you find something special in your driveway this holiday. ♪ [ santa ] ho ho ho! [ male announcer ] get an exceptional offer on the mercedes-benz you've always wanted at the winter event going on now. and stay connected with three years of mbrace service complimentary. and stay connected three. two. one. ♪ don't cha wish your work phone was hot like me?... ♪ the droid pro by motorola knows you need business

osama bin laden we know came to the israel/palestine late. 1998. it wasn't an issue for him before that. in the same way, sometimes israel/palestine can be a political football for those trying to garner their local interest. >> host: blond american woman along "the 10th parallel." >> guest: it was -- dirty secret, it's easier to be a woman than a man. most violence is random. if somebody comes up to your car with their ak-47 and they look in, there's a woman, you get 15 seconds of grace period. a little bit of shock goes a long way. that doesn't mean that many of my female colleagues haven't been mistreated. kidnapping a woman is expensive, it's religious suspect, you need a woman to watch her, a separate space. so in those small ways, which are really the most important, i was given some safety. >> host: did somebody walk up to your car with an ak-47? >> guest: there was an episode -- yes. automatic fire in somalia. there was an episode that i was attached by something called the nigerian taliban. i don't write about it in the book, because the b

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