efforts to communicate directly with al qaeda and osama bin laden. was hoping you could give us details on this, putting it into context, and to what extent you reason to believe that perhaps these attempts continue today. >> so this right after the al qaeda attacks there were a number of reactions. we talked about the killing capture reaction. i mean, some of the reactions were frankly somewhat hairbrained. one of the things that we read about in the book is shot one time the small, medium pentagon officials, somebody suggested that there was going to be signs of another attack coming from al qaeda. the united states is threatened to bomb baghdad. you can imagine that show the lack of cultural sensitivity to say the very least about the kind of thinking. thankfully that idea never left the room to be put the americans, a small number of intelligence officials and others in the government did was try to open up a conversation with osama bin laden himself, ostensibly to try to set down some lines. obviously we have been attacked by al qaeda. we agree

one of the vehicles had two people and they thought that this was osama bin laden. we caught the two people that were there and it was not osama bin laden and the cia knew that. >> that was the former pakistani president pervez musharraf talking to my colleague there. bracing for a 7 billion, as the planet it's ready to mark the milestone, we will look at how china is pared to cope. gunmen in northeastern kenya have killed four people and then attack near the border of somalia. this is the fourth attack linked to a militant group. >> there is a sense of dread on the streets of nairobi, a city braced for trouble. already this week, two grenade attacks. the authorities are struggling to reassure the public and foreign tourists. >> we have enough men, we have enough capacity. >> here is why that they might be in danger. the army has to stormed across the border into somalia. they are chasing al-shabab, a group linked to al qaeda. no one is sure how far the government will go. this could make the simoleon famine even worse. as for al-shabab, they lost some territory rec

we caught the people and it was not osama bin laden. the cia was wrong. >> the former president of pakistan speaking to my colleague. as you heard, he denied the allegation made in a bbc documentary which we aired a portion of last night. also weighing in was a general attar abbas from the pakistan army. he rejected the idea that some parts of the isi train terrorists. >> officers have been killed by terrorist attacks by al qaeda. putting the blame on isi without verification or non sources is incredible. i think the report speaks for itself. >> you are denying any trading of al qaeda. >> absolutely. there is no question. >> the general is a spokesman for the pakistani army. still to come on tonight's program, bracing for 7 billion. as the planet gets ready to mark the milestone, we look at how china is prepared to cope. gunmen in northeastern kenya have killed the four people during an attack closed the border with somalia, the third incident this week being linked to the militant group from somalia, al shahbab. >> there is a queasy dr

to find osama bin laden to be tried for high treason. shakil afridi is in abbottabad, where bin laden was killed, in an effort to obtain a d.n.a. sample. he was arrested shortly after the military raid in may. >> this is all coming out of the abbottabad commission, a commission set up after the events which led to the killing of osama bin laden. it's a commission not to find out why osama bin laden was in pakistan, but how the americans were able to carry out an attack on pakistani soil without the authorities here knowing. and it is believed that dr. afridi, a doctor in northwest pakistan, began this vaccination campaign, this hepatitis b vaccination campaign, at the behest of the c.i.a., who wanted to get into the compound in which they believed osama bin laden was in. now, it's not believed that he was able to obtain those d.n.a. samples. apparently one nurse was able to get into the compound, but not to take samples. but, even then, the pakistani authorities rounded up a large number of people actually after that raid in which bin la

i use a osama bin laden operation as an example. that was a brilliant military operation which all americans are proud of but what people don't realize is the military carries out operations like that every day in afghanistan and iraq. think about 1980. jimmy carter could not carry out even one operation like that. our military has been changed and trained to capitalize on intelligence on a daily basis. that could not have happened in 2001. suspect nadine and i agree on some things like speaking from a panel rather than a lectern and the scope of free speech. we will disagree about civil liberty. the third thing is the prediction that there would be a civil liberties catastrophe because of the war on terror turned out not to be accurate. people had that fear at the beginning because of the civil liberties we saw in the civil war, world war i and world war ii i infringement on personal liberty and free speech. we didn't see things like that. in the last ten years political speech and political activity blossomed. you don't need to se

everyone wanted osama bin laden dead.all the men and women to go over there and try and find him. what do you remember from getting those orders? >> well, i remember, kyra, that it was very personal for us. keep in mind we were charged with defending this country and when the events went down the way they did in new york, it was like somebody coming into your living room and attacking your family. so we had a very strong sense of revenge and payback and also making things right over there. and when we knew that we had the opportunity to actually corner and put al qaeda away or at least we thought we did, there was a sense that we could end it and end it early. >> you weren't able to find osama bin laden. as we know, it took almost ten years. when you found out that it finally happened, what went through your mind? what did you think about that? this was only a number of months ago. >> it was, you're right. and i think, like all the rest of the country, it was a strange cross between exhilaration and relief that we finally

. >> you were the first person publicly throughout all media to mention the same osama bin laden. why did his name come to mind? >> i'm a private pilot and i knew bin laden had been implicated in that plot to blow up airplanes over the pacific. when airplanes threw into buildings into new york after the first 15 seconds i mentioned his name. >> this has to be deliberate. some of the key suspects that come to mind, osama bin laden. >> what changed for you of a september 11th? >> it all changed on september 11th because it became more about the news and less about everything else. >> after a firefight, they killed osama bin laden and took custody of his body. >> bin laden is dead. multiple sources. osama bin laden is dead. >> the rescue of the first of 33 miners in chile trapped underground for 16 ag nicing days. people are holding vigils, people like lisa, her family. >> barack obama is the next president of the united states. what a ride it has been. >> you can count on fox news channel for the latest in politics and the events from our nation's capital. and we count on team washi

. >> you were the first person publicly throughout all media to mention the same osama bin laden. why did his name come to mind? >> i'm a private pilot and i knew bin laden had been implicated in that plot to blow up airplanes over the pacific. when airplanes threw into buildings into new york after the first 15 seconds i mentioned his name. >> this has to be deliberate. some of the key suspects that come to mind, osama bin laden. >> what changed for you of a september 11th? >> it all changed on september 11th because it became more about the news and less about everything else. >> after a firefight, they killed osama bin laden and took custody of his body. >> bin laden is dead. multiple sources. osama bin laden is dead. >> the rescue of the first of 33 miners in chile trapped underground for 16 ag nicing days. people are holding vigils, people like lisa, her family. >> barack obama is the next president of the united states. what a ride it has been. >> you can count on fox news channel for the latest in politics and the events from our nation's capital. and we count on team washi

just as killing osama bin laden was. during the 2008 presidential campaign, republicans turned their typical anti-democrat soft on crime, soft on terrorism attack against candidate barack obama. they frequently used surrogates like rudy giuliani, new york city's mayor on 9/11, to accuse candidate barack obama of not having either the experience or the desire to fight al qaeda. >> what i do suggest is he doesn't have the experience to handle terrorism. i call it a pre-september 11th mentality that he wants to return to. >> the question is whether this is a man who has what it takes to protect america from osama bin laden, al qaeda and other grave threats in the world. and he has given you no reason to answer in the affirmative. >> the democrats want to go back to a pre-september 11th view of terrorism. what i call being on defense. this is not a realistic approach. time has proven that being on offense is better than being on defense. >> since barack obama was sworn into office in january, 2009, here's how that whole defe

after torture he admitted that al qaeda and osama bin laden were working together. after we went to iraq and found out he was lying they came back to him and asked why he provided that lie that ended up in the security council where secretary colin powell mentioned it in his speech to justify the war in iraq. he said you were torturing me and i gave you what you needed to hear. so i discuss these things in detail and all this stuff has already been declassified by the united states government. the story of the link to the iraq war, the falls link to the iraq war has been declassified by the senate armed services committee for example. >> host: maine, you are on booktv. ali soufan is our guest. >> caller: good afternoon. i look forward to reading your book. could you discuss if you know anything about it, the fbi agents in minneapolis who were trying to tell a man named mallseat who dismissed the warnings? >> guest: this came up in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 but if you look at the issue of mr. masawi he said he wants to know how to the part but not how to land.

when the soviets withdrew, of course, the whole operation if you like or objective of people like osama binand i think it was at that time that bin laden began to turn from the soft-spoken, self-efacing individual into someone who developed ambitions of becoming more proviinent if you like as a leader of a group that could help muslims anywhere in the world. >> did it surprise you that he was found in pakistan? >> i always thought that he would be somewhere between the two countries. either afghanistan or pakistan. of course, when the americans brought down the taliban and chased bin laden in tora bora, if you remember for several months, he must have made calculations that afghanistan was not as friendly as it used to be before that. >> you must have also seen the close, very close connection in those days between the pakistani military, the isi, your counterpart in a sense, to pakistan's intelligence, and the taliban and what ended up turning into the taliban. so i mean, when i look at the situation now, it seems to me the isi's ties to certain element, certain militant, taliban elements,

he got a little bounce over osama bin laden and that did not last. i don't think there's going to be much of a kill bounce down the road on gaddafi unless people think overall the picture in the middle east has gotten better. the best thing that has probably happened with this presidency are the things hillary clinton has been charged of, oddly

. >> you were the first person publicly throughout all media to mention the same osama bin laden. why did his name come to mind? >> i'm a private pilot and i knew bin laden had been implicated in that plot to blow up airplanes over the pacific. when airplanes threw into buildings into new york after the first 15 seconds i mentioned his name. >> this has to be deliberate. some of the key suspects that come to mind, osama bin laden. >> what changed for you of a september 11th? >> it all changed on september 11th because it became more about the news and less about everything else. >> after a firefight, they killed osama bin laden and took custody of his body. >> bin laden is dead. multiple sources. osama bin laden is dead. >> the rescue of the first of 33 miners in chile trapped underground for 16 ag nicing days. people are holding vigils, people like lisa, her family. >> barack obama is the next president of the united states. what a ride it has been. >> you can count on fox news channel for the latest in politics and the events from our nation's capital. and we count on team washi

he tried to help the cia locate and identify osama bin laden. they are recommending he be charged with treason. you will recall that this was a doctor who allegedly set up a fake vaccination campaign and got two nurses and the nurses went around the town and giving vaccinations to children. the plan was for these nurses to use the syringe or blood samples from the bin laden children and match them with bin laden's sister's dna and bin laden's sister, of course, passing away last year. that plan didn't work. nevertheless, caused a lot of outrage here in pakistan. the question why was the pakistani doctor helping the cia behind pakistani's authorities back? now the commission recommending he be charged with treason. another recommendation, brooke, by the commission coming down tonight is for the three wives of osama bin laden and his daughters to be free to go home. two of the wives from saudi arabia, one from yemen and commission saying they should be free to go home and questioned them and don't need them any longer. not clear if that will happe

visitors will get a peek at the d osama bin >>> fleet week has officially arrived and it is supposed to be bigger and better than ever. >> visitors will actually get a peek at the ship which carried osama bin laden's body. anne makovec on why so many are looking forward to this weekend. and i got to say, it's got to be partially because of the weather. >> reporter: oh, yeah. i mean, just absolute perfect weather. when you see these airshows, there's a lot of concern that maybe they wouldn't be able to fly or you won't be able to see them because of fog and cloud cover. it looks like that is not going to be the case and we're going to see the blue angels flying overhead practicing again in a few minutes at about 12:30 today. meantime, here at fisherman's wharf, you can see we have some of those white tents behind me, a lot of military recruiting tents being set up. we have a military band playing back there. so it is kicking off already. >> it gives you a sense of america, you know? it's just -- when you watch them, you get goosebumps. it's america. >> reporter: that's coming from a n

1,700 american soldiers have lost their lives that they fought to destroy al qaeda and hunt down osama bin laden, 1,000 more have come home with very serious lifelong injuries. when i'm at home in california and talk with veterans and their families, i can see how much our soldiers have sacrificed. i want to offer my sincere thanks and appreciation to all the men and women in uniform who have carried out their duty in afghanistan. as the anniversary approaches, i am thinking particularly of the army captain john hawlis of california in my congressional district. he was killed in action in southern afghanistan on august 25, 2009. i was honored to have provided him a congressional nomination to the west point academy.

the important thing is the united states has indicated ever since osama bin laden was taken down that they can run down and find and shoot and kill using drones or airstrikes and incredible number of al- qaeda leaders. it's astonishing -- they must have gotten a huge volume of intel from bin laden's computers or somewhere else

. >> you were the first person publicly throughout all media to mention the same osama bin laden. why did his name come to mind? >> i'm a private pilot and i knew bin laden had been implicated in that plot to blow up airplanes over the pacific. when airplanes threw into buildings into new york after the first 15 seconds i mentioned his name. >> this has to be deliberate. some of the key suspects that come to mind, osama bin laden. >> what changed for you of a september 11th? >> it all changed on september 11th because it became more about the news and less about everything else. >> after a firefight, they killed osama bin laden and took custody of his body. >> bin laden is dead. multiple sources. osama bin laden is dead. >> the rescue of the first of 33 miners in chile trapped underground for 16 ag nicing days. people are holding vigils, people like lisa, her family. >> barack obama is the next president of the united states. what a ride it has been. >> you can count on fox news channel for the latest in politics and the events from our nation's capital. and we count on team washi

obama administration is trying to keep pictures of osama bin laden taken after his death from being seenions. stay with us. there's only one bottle left ! i've got to tell susie ! the vending machine on elm is almost empty. i'm on it, boss. new pony sorry ! we are open for business. let's reroute greg to fresno. growing businesses use machine-to-machine technology from verizon wireless. susie ! the nding machine... already filled. cool bike. because the busine with the best technologyules. >> welcome back everybody. the obama administration is fighting a freedom of information request. seeking the release of photos of osama bin laden after he was kill saying terrorist could use those pictures as propaganda tools. liz her thoughts with us. hi, liz. >> good afternoon, uma. this is certainly a first amendment issue although that is not the way the obama administration is treating it. the justice department went to court last week and said that the 52 videotapes and pictures taken on the raids that killed osama bin laden should remain classified. now using as evidence of why they should rema

so, between, i'll use the osama bin laden operations as an example. that was a brilliant military operation in which i think all americans were proud. what people don't realize is that the military now carries out operations like that every day. in afghanistan. and iraq. think about just 1980. jimmy carter could not carry out even one operation like that. our military has been changed and trained to be able to capitalize on intelligence almost immediately on a daily basis and that's something that could not have happened in 2001. >> the third lesson -- i suspect this is where -- nadine, i think, and i agree on some things like speaking from a panel rather than a lectern, and we're going disagree about civil liberties. i think the third thing is that the predictions there would be this civil liberties catastrophe because of the war on terrorism turned out not to be accurate. i think people could reasonably have that fear at the beginning because of the civil liberties problems we have seen in past wars, the civil war, world war i and world war ii, saw

so again, i will use the osama bin laden operation as an example. that was a brilliant military option in which i think all americans are proud. but people don't realize i believe is the military now carries out operations like that everyday. >> watch this and other programs online on booktv.org. >> next, john grisham accepts the harper lee prize for fiction. after accepting the award, the author speaks about being a lawyer and the rule that saw place in contemporary fiction with a panel at the national press club in washington d.c. this is a little over an hour. >> well, everybody got quite so i guess we can begin. good afternoon. as seen at the university of alabama law school, and please stay to welcome all of you to the non-drill celebration and presentation of the harper lee prize for legal fiction. now, harper lee of monroeville, alabama attended our law school in the 1940s and published "to kill a mockingbird" in 1960. the book illuminated the responsibility of lawyers to fight injustice and empower them to represent the wrongly accused. sinc

the war in afghanistan began after the ruling taliban refused to hand over nine eleven mastermind osama bin ladin retired army general stanley mcchrystal says the u.s. began the occupation with a frighteningly simplistic view and still have no idea how to end the conflict successfully meantime in the war zone american bases are still expanding providing it's full time personnel with all the comforts of home jason mattera have visited by far. if the united states is drawing its troops from afghanistan what is its largest base getting bigger with us live forces over in the taliban of late two thousand and one bugbear field is little more than a flight to correct runway since then the former soviet base in the plains north of the afghan capital has grown into a small city but still do over twenty five thousand full time personal fleets of military cargo aircraft in the theaters to cause traffic jams that expansion is no way it is by scores of contractors u.s. military engineers are constructing new housing and storage facilities to make room for even more babies work after sending an extra thi

bin laden was holed up in abbott a bad, he was becoming more active n a way more dangerous than osama bin. >> in some ways. i still think bin laden served a key role as the central figure, the central strategist for al qaeda and the broader network. but more and more you heard american officials talking about the danger rising from yemen, this affiliate in yemen, in particular anwar awlaki's role in it. i think brian is right, i think his main attraction and main asset for the broader network was his ability to attract western ears. and i think importantly to keep in mind that he and a couple of others within the group in al qaeda had begun to examine the field, to see that what could be most effective was not just big scale attacks of the kind that we've seen in the past from al qaeda but to inspire individuals to attack the united states and others in small ways. to do what they called an operation hemorrhage to kill with a thousand cuts. and so that started to be a way that awlaki was reshaping the strategic battle space. and i think that's important to keep in mind because you have no

the initial intent was crystal clear to catch or kill osama bin laden no strings attached period but from the outset of the operation has gotten the wrong turn and today ten years later it's painfully obvious that it has to gain aerated into their mission creep be very open ended commitment and no graceful exit in sight for the united states forces or peace and security for the afghan people w. bush administration. has ignored the key principle keep it simple stupid advocated by the u.s. special operations command and undermined. their efforts in their pay to stay any afghan. tribal belt. otherwise. today we would have celebrated the tenth anniversary of the mission accomplished. it was artie's military contributor there colonel ugandan herself with his assessment of the war's progress from the afghan capital. to a touch of american. target. this to. a ship the food to you. less movement. on a mission to bring peace and stability to the war. but ten years known as it only left him more dangerous. the echo of occupy wall street protests have reached the american capital attending the

>> he was a man who was a saudi cleric who had been very influential osama bin laden's life. and he had issued against t first fatwa against the united states for deploying troops in saudi arabia after saddam hussein invaded kuwait in 1990. >> rose: he also made osama bin laden crazy because he said the saudis should defend themselves and he would help them and it was sack ril lidges you to invite the american army to defend. >> and theshake was the one who took this public position and that's the moment this that osama bin laden, who's been a de facto ally of the united states in afghanistan for a decade... >>ose: as part of the mujahadeen. >> that's right: turned against the united states and sheikh salman elodai became his hero and when the saudi government arrested the shake, that's when osama bin laden issued fatwas and started calling himself an emir, a sheikh, a religious person, someone to stand in. yes criticized the government and said he had no alternative because the government picked up shake alodia. and the shei, after a period of being in prison turned against

after the death of osama bin laden, the boys are even more motivated. to battle the infidel. >> pakistan has corroborated with the united states in its war against terrorism. but the islamic nation now also faces a worsening terror threat from within. nhk world, islamabad. >> that wraps up our bulletin. >>> newsline is the latest place to fwo to for the latest on japan. two unique perspectives from the fallout of the earthquake and tsunami. nuclear watch brings you the information on the impact of the fukushima daiichi crisis and the road ahead examines japan's efforts to recover and rebuild. don't miss "nuclear watch" and "the road ahead" on newsline. >>> a job is something many people in northeastern japan would love to have right about now. the march 11 earthquake and tsunami left tens of thousands unemployed. but we are learning some businesses have a hard time getting workers or former staff members to return. that's a problem. it is one of the hardest hit areas in northeastern japan. the fishing inus try alone accounts for nearly half of its econo

words president bush inextricably linked the conflict in the public's mind with the fate of one man, osama binladen. in reality the statement was mr. maddock as it seemed at the time. although president bush -- authorizing operations designed to capture and kill bin laden he was not the first u.s. president to do so. in response the august 1998 african embassy bombing president clinton's sided cruise missiles at a qaeda training camps to kill bin laden and authorize the use of lethal force if necessary to capture the saudi terrorist. moreover bin laden was not the first individual singled out as a strategic objective a u.s. military campaign. on may 3, 1886 more than a century before 25 million-dollar reward would be offered for information on bin laden's whereabouts. the u.s. house of representatives introduced a joint resolution quote authorizing the president to offer an award of $25,000 for the killing or capture of geronimo. 30 years later in response to poncho via's raid across the mexican border into columbus new mexico in march 1916, president woodrow wilson announced quote, a force wi

author of osama bin laden's legacy, he writes and lectures on mideast issues, welcome back to the show. >> thank you. >> you wrote in the atlantic on friday, about the killing of the cleric are and what mean or doesn't mean one thing you are saying, these victories, and they are victories, the killing of osama bin laden and him are victories but don't mean al qaeda 's defeat is imminent why not? >> we have under estimated the resill gypsy of the network the point -- resill yenisei of the network when you lock at a network and what a loss of a critical leader does to it impact is not that great you have people waiting in the wings to replace them now he was particularly important to al qaeda, the yemen branch of the organization he was unique in the fact that he spoke english flew wently he had a unique appeal appearing in a dozen terror plots this doesn't mean the network will collapse there will be someone who steps in to fill his role. >>> has al qaeda intentionally set themselves up in this way where they are come part mentallized and diffused so when one of these people is struck d

laden the united states had its own reasons it was fighting not only against osama bin laden but against the pakistan military in fact we don't really know what happened with osama bin laden presumably he's dead. why this video has gone viral it's possible that it's just gone viral but. moammar gadhafi would be alive today for one reason except for one reason and that is the nato intervention the nato bombing of sirte the nato bombing of cities in complete defiance of their own resolution resolution nine hundred seventy three that said that they were entering libya just to protect civilians it's been clear from the outset that they're killing civilians killing anybody who stands in the way of the real objective of the operation which is to carry out regime change ok and now that the leader of the of libya is not the n t c the recognized so authority there some of them were actually off the loyalists and there have been questions raised about their past the nation's can they be trusted to leave the country forward. well i just want to put it into perspective again i don't think th

osama bin laden has been killed.nitation, public health, all have improved, but, still, afghanistan is a nation of fear. the capital kabul is seen by some critics as a broken city. introducing us to an afghan man eager to get out. >> reporter: likeout. >> reporter: like americans remember where they were on 9/11, afghans remember when the first american bombs fell. >> both of the bombs just hit taliban's air defense system on the top of the hill. >> good afternoon. on my orders, the united states military has begun strikes against al qaeda terrorist training camps and military installations of the taliban regime in afghanistan. >> my family and i were out sitting right in this room and we have just done with the dinner and afterwards of the dinner we just heard a big blast. >> reporter: a decade ago he was 16. his family running to the basement. >> by the time we heard the explosion we all just run out of the house and we just -- we just came here. we were -- >> reporter: they stayed put through the bombing. the tali

so again, i will use the osama bin laden operation as an example. there was a brilliant military operation which all americans were proud but what people don't realize i believe is the military now carries out operations like that every day in afghanistan and iraq. think about just 1980, jimmy carter could not carry out even one operation. our military has been changed and trained to capitalize on intelligence almost immediately on a daily basis and that is something that could not happen in 2001. this is something nadine and i may agree on some things like speaking on the panel rather than the lectern and the scope of the free speech we are going to disagree on the civil liberties. the third thing is the predictions there would be a civil liberties catastrophe because the war on terrorism turned out not to be accurate. i think people could have that fear at the beginning because the civil liberties problem we have seen in the civil war, world war i and world war ii salles infringement of personal liberty and free speech we didn't see things like th