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i hear him say osama bin laden. then i look at osama bin laden.der how in the world did i get here from butte, montana. then we're watching. and then guys start to say out loud, say no one was hurt. tell him no one was hurt for our families. no one was hurt. it took a few sentences. >> a small team of americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. no americans were harmed. >> when did you realize that the entire country basically broke out in patriotism? [ crowd singing the national anthem ] >> i don't know who the guy is. but whoever was hanging from the light post in manhattan who had obviously had a few cock tails, he made me realize this is a big deal. when the crowd was chanting "usa" out of the white house. >> it's wild out here. mardi gras, new year's eve. thousands of young people. >> what did your family say when you told them what you did? >> well, i had always told my mother jokingly, even in high school, you don't need to worry about me. i'm here to do something special. and i was just joking, messing wi

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he is the man who killed osama bin laden. >> the space we are looking is the last face that osama bin laden saw on earth. >> if it was light enough i was definitely the last person he saw. >> you trained or targets with his face on it. >> yes. >> what was it like to kill the actual guy? >> it wasn't real. it was another guy in a how is that we shot. it didn't sink in. it didn't sink in for a while. >> has it sunk in now? >> yeah. it has now. i thought about it every day for a number of years. >> i am still trying to figure out if it's the best thing i have ever done or the worst thing? >> how could it be the best? >> we accomplished our mission and i was a big part of it. i was a part of it. >> how could it be the worst? >> i don't know what's going to happen? i have to live with everything. >> before the war on terror and the hunt for osama bin laden took rob to the furthest reaches of the globe the quiet mining town of butte, montana was home. this is where his story begins. >> rob o'neil had a normal childhood. he played basketball for butte machine tan gnaw high school. he did odd

. >> for years the korea h s ths d that they took down osama bin laden and stopped terror plots around the world. they said none of that is true. >> not a single case hold up. >> a slammed echoed by john mccain. >> perpetrators of nine zblechb mcca -- >> mccain the only member of the senate who was tortured himself in vietnam. >> i know from experience that the abuse of prisoners will produce more bad than good intelligence. >> a 6,000 page report costing $40 million misleading congress tpublic, even the white house. when did president bush first learn the grusome details? the report says not until 2006. >> questioning the detainees in this program has given us information that have saved innocent lyes. >> that's in dispute. the detainee stripped naked died of hypothermia. another was water boarded for two and a half weeks 24/7 until he passed out. 9/11 plotter khalid mohammed. >> behind folded, threatened with a gun near his head and the cordless power drill and given forced enemas, all of this hidden from the secretary of state colin poll. >> there are record stating that colin powel

track down osama bin laden, it was found. president obama called it brutal torture. >> the cia set up something very fast without a lot of forethought to what the ramifications might be. >> reporter: ramifications for troops and diplomats now on alert all over the world. >> and the good guys air their dirty laundry. >> it could be used to insight unrest and even attacks on our service members. >> democrats insist this information had to come out. >> the report will carry the message never again. >> reporter: former cia chiefs are defending what happened. >> the standard was what is lawful, effective and appropriate in a time of great extremism in the united states with 3,000 fellow citizens who have been murdered. >> reporter: the report says president bush didn't find out until four years after it started. not so the cia says. >> we briefed the white house legal council in great detail. >> reporter: history now wide open for the world to see and judge. and there is some discussion already at the united nations. at least one

defenders of the program say it helped find osama bin laden, while critics say otherwise. we'll show you both sides of this issue. >>> at this hour we expect to hear whether an appeal in the oscar pistorius case will proceed. also coming up. >> breathe, honey, breathe. >> this is fine. >> blow out. >> how and why is david mckenzie experiencing labor pains? we will explain later in the program. a lot of interesting stories to get to. but first, let's bring you the latest information we have. dianne feinstein says the cia's actions after the 9/11 attacks left a stain on american values and history. the newly released report prompted the fbi to issue a warning now to u.s. law enforcement to be wary of any extremist reaction to the report. a united nations official accused those of being involved as part of a criminal conspiracy and is demanding they be brought to justice. among the tactics revealed in the report, the cia conducted mock executions on at least two detainees. kept some awake for up to 180 hours straight. and stripped others naked, subjecting them to cold tempera

three of his predecessors say they did work and helped foil terror attacks and even find and kill osama bin laden himself. former vice president dick cheney calls the report a bunch of hooey. he said that before it was released or had a chance to read it. the reaction not purely partisan. some democrats say the report is biased. some republicans, you heard john mccain on the floor yesterday, defending the report. >> let's check jim acosta at the white house in the briefing room where that briefing is set to take place. what are you hearing, jim. what are we expecting to hear here today? >> good morning, john and michaela. the white house press secretary josh ernest, they scheduled an unusually early briefing this morning. but they're saying that purely for logistical reasons but we are going to hear josh ernest take these questions head on about this torture report that was released by the senate intelligence committee chair yesterday dianne feinstein. we shall point out ernest took questions about this on air force one during a press gaggle with reporters but that was off camera. this will

here is o'neil describing the moment he shot osama bin laden. >> why did you shoot osama bin laden? >> in the face three times. >> did he stagger at all? >>> he just dropped. >> how long from the second you saw him until he was laying dead? >> it was less than a security. probably half a second. he was a threat. >> o'neil has not commented on the investigation. >> a major splot plot twist for sony. we have the latest on the hollywood drama. what is sony saying? >> they say they never gave up on releasing the i"the intervie the first place and are excited about the release. they are showing the movie at the largest theater chains. it drew widespread criticism including from president obama. but now the movie is being released to independent theaters like a florida drive in. >> i think it is terrible the way sony pictures handled it saying they wouldn't do it and that's the one thing i agree the president came along and said everybody should show it and not be afraid. that's what we are doing. >> one of the film's stars james franco is praising sony on instagram. the people and the pr

he says they acted within the law and says information from detainees helped track down osama bin ladenculhane reports. >> reporter: in unprecedents news conference, a sign of just how much pressure the cia feels. their director invited the media to their head quarters to try to explain the torture that happened at secret prisons like this one. 119 men held. 26 of those were innocent. >> in a limited number of cases agency officers used interrogation techniques that had not been authorized, were abhorrent and rightly should be repute 80ed by all. >> reporter: but because of the 500 plus page report we know what the cia bosses authorized. confinement in a wooden box with insects. one man held like this for a total of 11 days. water boarding, sleep did he depravation team them awake for a week, forcing them to stands naked with arms held found days. the cia insists the people who were tortured gave critical information that helped find osama bin laden and thwart attacks, but they haven't crediting the enhanced techniques for that now. >> the cause and effect relationship between the appli

good amount of misinformation used in 2011 to credit the use of these methods with the death of osama bin laden and there is, i fear, misinformation being used today to prevent the release of this report disputing its findings and warning about the security consequences of their public

and, indeed, this is how osama bin laden was tracked down ultimately is through cell phone tapping according to the reports. so i'm not as sensitive to this argument that this is the only

including reports that osama bin laden was trying to acquire nuclear weapon.ys after 9/11 president bush authorized the detention and interrogation program. the cia admits at the time it had very little if any experience housing and interrogating detainees. in essence agents were learning on the fly. ten months after 9/11 hai)t then-attorney general john a ashcr ashcroft approved of facial slaps, sleep deprivation, use of diapers and waterboarding. here's cia director john brennan. >> there were no easy answers. and whatever your views are on eits, our nation and in particular this agency did a lot of things right during this difficult time to keep this country strong and secure. >> brennan has acknowledged that some officers used interrogation techniques that had not been authorized and that some officers were not held accountable. but the biggest point of contention is whether eits were effective. keep in mind that former cia officials have gone on the record saying that relationship-building techniques with detainees were not working and it was well-known t

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studying asked him if the arab world had it's own super man, students told him al quaida leaders osama bin laden were their heros. so he gave them his comic books for free. i asked them the same question, and that's when they are talking about my comic books. there's a huge need for heros. >> including this one based on a real life jordanian daneian women's counter for error itch unit. >> this is powerful and important story to fight the narrative of ma soldierny in the middle east. >> he speaks openly about the power of these books, sometimes at great risk. a few years ago, extremists attacked him, but he says he will keep creating new characters and he says in episodes are on the way. the cartoons have received tens of thousands of hits on youtube. the other artist told me that most of his comic books are in arabic, but he is working on getting them translated into english. >> an alternative initiative that can be really powerful. >> yeah, roxanne that, appreciate it. thank you, ohio place add moratorium, it ends in january, and when that happened ohio lawmakers want to keep details of e

here is o'neal describing the moment he shot osama bin laden. >> where did you shoot osama bin laden? three times. >> did he stagger at all? >> he fell by the left side of the bed. >> how long from the second you saw him until he was laying dead at your feet? >> it was less than seconds. probably half a second. >> o'neal has yet to comnt on the investigation. just in time to christmas the georgia national guard is returning home from afghanistan. family and friends turning out for a ceremony at a local school. many of the soldiers coming back to their young children. >> he wasn't crawling when daddy left. i think it would be special if i could get noah to walk to daddy. >> that he did. this is the first time in 13 years all georgia national guard units are home for the holidays. those are your headlines. >> thanks so much. we will have some holiday greetings from our troops overseas. >> great news. >> absolutely. an american pastor held in an iranian jail for years because he's a christian. his wife just received an emotional letter from him, and what it says will touch your heart on

techniques provided information that was useful and was used in the ultimate operation to go against osama bin laden. again, i'm not going to attribute that to the use. >> top officials fighting that the firestorm created by the torture report. bush-era attorney michael mucasey claimed the techniques did not violate the law. while cia director michael hayden argued that rectal feeding was not an interrogation technique at all. >> jake, i'm not a doctor and neither are you. what i'm told is this is one of the ways that the body is rehydrated. these were medical procedures. to give you a sense. >> do you really defend that? >> i'm defending history. to give you a sense of how the report was put together. this activity, which was done five times, each time for the health of the detainee, not part of the interrogation program and not designed to soften him up. >> the statute says you can't under law cause intentionally cause somebody severe physical pain or suffering. it is not defined. severe mental pain. >> it gave them a lot of wiggle room. >> it has to last beyond what's transient. what the ci

enhanced interrogation, played a role in combination with other streams of intelligence in finding osama bin laden. so if john brennan and the cia say this right now, you say what? >> well, listen, i agree with bill harlow. the cia obviously has a position on this. they're not making things up. but what we really need to do is see the interrogation reports and compare them with all the other documentation. it may turn out that the cia is right. but right now, this has become too partisan. we're not getting at the truth. and i think it would behoove the cia to make its case just as it's made its case that it didn't go off on this program of enhanced interrogation on its own. it was ordered from the top, approved by the senate and the house. and it should point out why it believes that enhanced interrogation led to the murder of bin laden. >> peter, button this up for us. you're the historian and the scholar. you've gone through the senate intelligence committee report, the minority report, the cia report, but you've also spent more than a decade studying all of this. >> well, hopefully, conve

techniques helped lead the agency to man named abu ahmed al kuwaiti. >> the facilitator who served as osama bin laden's personal currier, and the man who led the navy s.e.a.l.s to bin laden himself. >> reporter: this interrogation, depicted in "zero dark thirty" is believed to be a detainee who the cia says told them he was bin laden courier after. >> the cia says that information, quote, fundamentally changed our assessment of the courier's potential importance to our hunt for bin laden. the intelligence committee and the cia are also sparring over the importance of another detainee named hassan gul, who also gave the cia information on bin laden's courier. the intelligence committee says, quote, the most accurate information was provided by a cia detainee who had not yet been subjected to the cia's enhanced interrogation tech next. the cia and its former deputy director john mclaughlin say gul gave up a very critical piece of intelligence about the courier after his interrogation. >> takes us pretty far by saying this guy delivered a letter from bin laden to the operations chief, abu faraj al

the intelligence report is saying that they did provide valuable intelligence in the hunt for osama bin ladin. strong words condemning this senate report. let's get details and reactions from our responds going you through the report. jim acosta is getting reaction and dana bash is up on capitol hill. evan, it's hundreds and hundreds of pages. people are going to be spending team getting the details. give us a couple of the main highlights. >> wolf, the big question is, did this program stop plots against the united states? did it -- was it effective in preventing terrorism against this country? and the biggest finding from this report, wolf, is that the program was ineffective, that it was more brutal than the cia ever told the americans, ever told the congress, that it was poorly managed. the cia didn't really know what it was doing in managing this program and lost track of detainees for a period and that it misled the congress and white house department and president bush himself did not get briefed fully on this program, wolf, until 2006, according to the senate report, which is a

did torture really lead to osama bin laden? >>> an abc news exclusive tonight. the iconic and respected model now coming forward in the bill cosby case. revealing why she stayed silent all this time, the most famous accuser yet. >>> and the nfl star, the horrific accident, fracturing his back. tonight, his first message. >>> good evening, as we come on the air in the west tonight. and we begin here with the breaking news. several states being slammed by this historic storm. homes falling into the ocean, wind gusts nearing 150 miles per hour. these homes destroyed, falling in. those images from washington state at this hour. a car submerged in water right there in northern california. another car crushed by a tree in san jose. and we couldn't help but to miss this image from a driver headed over the golden gate bridge there. the windshield nearly blinlded by the rain. abc's senior meteorologist rob marciano leading us off in san bruno, california tonight. rob? >> reporter: david, california needs the rain, but not this much today. surreal scenes like the ones beh

>> well, to some extent, that's the bottom line of all of this, did this help get osama bin laden? brennan spoke again, as michelle.ed out, while some of the detainees were subjected to enhanced interrogation, like khalid sheikh mohammed, eventually offered up key evidence to giving up osama bin laden. it's not clear if the enhanced interrogation led them to offer that intelligence. listen to what he said. >> the detainees who were subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques provided information that was useful and was used in the ultimate operation to go against bin laden. again, i am not going to attribute that to the use of the eits. i'm just going to state, as a matter of fact, the information that they provided was used. >> so he's refusing to decline but certainly leaving the door open. senator dianne feinstein, head of the senate intelligence committee, throughout brennan's presentation call a tweet storm, fact-checking him in realtime, in her view, on her twitter account. let's go to this point about bin laden. the senator says in her tweet that her study definitively pr

lead the agency to a man named abu achmed al kuwaiti. >> the al qaeda facilitator who served as osama bine man who led cia intelligence analysts and the navy seals to bin laden himself. >> reporter: this interrogation depicted in the hollywood blockbuster "zero dark 30" is believed to be that of amar al-balucci who told them al kuwaiti was spin laden's courier after interrogation. >> what's the target? where was the last time you saw bin laden? >> the cia says that information "fundamentally changed our assessment of the currier's potential hunt for bin laden." the intelligence committee and the cia are sparring over the importance of another detainee named hassan gul who gave information on bin laden's courier. the intelligence committee says "the most accurate information on abu ahmad al kuwaiti was provided by by a detainee who has not yet been subjected to the enhanced interrogation techniques." the cia say ghul gave it up after interrogation. >> it takes us pretty far by saying this guy delivered a letter from bin laden to the operations chief. that sort of nails the fact that he's i

former cia directors say their program helped lead to the kill of obama helped lead to the killing of osama bin laden. they suspect the bin laden was trying to blow up a nuclear weapon, adding it was like a ticking bomb scenario every day. many top republicans accuse feinstein of unleashing a political attack. >> it is clear this appears to be an attempt to rewrite history by the democrats to bash the bush administration. >> reporter: one gop senator, john mccain, a former prisoner of war, defended the report saying cor tour does not work. >> i know from personal experience that the abuse of prisoners produces more bad than good intelligence. >> reporter: the president was careful not to call the harsh interrogation tactics crimes and so far the justice department has given no indication it plans to prosecute any former cia officials for what happened, and asked whether the president still stands by his claim the harsh tactics amounted to torture, white house press secretary josh earnest told reporters yes. car carol? >> jim acosta reporting live from the white house this morning. >>> i think i

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of the man who killed osama bin laden. he man who killed osama bin laden." >> what issues are important to you? >> the economy. >> what they think of washington. >> you name a politician you trust? >> no. >> probably not. >> not off the top of my head. >> what they see for the future of this country on a hugs bee special " -- huckabee special "the next" generation. >> we are talking to the next generation of americans tonight. you know, all during this time i discovered i used to go to high schools. i get in front of a high school audience and i say how many of you are interested in politics and government. not a single hand would go up in the crowd. i would say boy that's good to hear. i am so glad you don't care about government and politics. when i said that they tuned in a little bit. i would say here is the reason i am glad you don't care about it. we have been figuring out most car accidents happen with male drives under the age of 25 and we figured we could save a lot of money and a lot of heartache if we raised the

. >> did the cia's torture techniques help catcher -- capture terrorists, including osama bin laden? question that white house homeland security adviser skirted on tuesday. >> there is a question and there are debates about efficacy. i think one thing that is true is some of these things are inherently not knowable. >> but the review did have an answer. after 6 million pages, it said the investigation did not help capture bin laden or save lives. the director of the cia counterattacked tuesday, saying torture did "help their plans." clicks what they have not shown any real or detailed way -- >> what they have not shown in any real detailed way that the torture techniques were relevant. >> he said they were necessary to gain leverage. >> what can i offer someone when the various groups say you cannot do anything other than raise your voice certainly at a terrorist you have captured? and you will not do waterboarding or anything else. what is the point of capturing them? you might as well have done a drone strike in the first place. >> this cia issued a rebuttal of the report, saying t

you know osama bin laden, benard lewis, mideast exhibit told president bush, osama bin laden has writtenout being the strong horse. he said the most important thing to remember, it is more important for the united states to it be respected and feared than america to be loved. people will follow the strong horse. that is the al-qaeda strategy. and we are seen as weak and feckless and we are weaker than before the release of the report. >> karl rove, thank you for weighing in. >> you are going to want to hear what former vice-president dick cheney had to say about the release of the cia report. he sits down with bret baier special report tonight right here on the fox news channel. >> on capitol hill, law makers are set to consider a tax extender bill this weekend and taxes can be a burden to many americans, you might be surprised at who gets the break. william will have a look at that story. >> reporter: law makers call them extenders. call it what it is. it is a sib side and give away. when someone doesn't pay their taxes, you do. horse racing is called the sport of kings except under it

this was a good amount of misinformation used in 2011 to credit the use of these for the death of osama bin laden, and there is, i fear, misinformation being used today to prevent the release of this report disputing it's findings inen waying about the security consequences of their public disclosure. yes, i suppose that's possible, perhaps likely. sadly, violence needs little incentive in some corners of the world today, but that doesn't mean, we will be telling the world something it will be shocked to learn. the entire world already knows that we water boarded prisoners. it knows we subjected prisoners to various other types of detrading treatment. it knows we used back sites secret prisons, those practices haven't been a secret for a decade. terrorists may use the reports of the practices as an excuse to attack americans. put they hardly need an execution for that, that is been their high's calling for a while now. what might come as a surprise, not just to our enemies but to many americans, is how hitle these practices did to aid our efforts to bring 9/11 culprits to justice, and to fi

including reports osama bin laden was trying to get a nuclear weapon.hey recognized the intention and interrogation program. the cia admitted at the time it had little if anycqyp experienc housing and interrogating detainees. tentpu months after 9-11 then attorney general john ashcroft included a list of enhanced interrogation techniques or eit including sleep deprivation, use of diapers and waterboarding. here is cia director john brooks. >> there were no easy answers. and whatever your views are7bo@ eit's our nation and in particular this agency did a lo of things right during this difficult time to keep this country strong and secure. >>tshcy brennan has acknowledgee officers used interrogation techniques that this not been authorized and some officers were not held accountable. the biggest is weather eit's were defensive. they were not working and it was well-known the detain theys were getting interrogation training at the al qaeda camp. the intelligence report says the critical information could have been obtained without enhanced interrogation.

. >>> surprising finding from the cia's torture report how officials actually tracked down osama bin laden. >>> live look outside this morning. this, the approach to the bay bridge on your wednesday, december 10th. you're watching "today in the bay." >> announcer: from nbc bay ago, this is "today in the bay." >>> cell phone video captures the moment people protesting use of police force break into an em emeryville store and take what they want. i'm laura garcia-cannon. >> i'm sam brock on this wednesday. much more in the east bay. we'll begin with a look at your microclimate forecast and meteorologist christina loren. >> good morning to you sam, laura, everybody at home. we're getting into that very, very small window of time where we still have good weather. and as i can tell you right now, that high wind warning -- it was a watch yesterday -- that's going into effect as of tonight. i can tell you, we've got a lot of rain and a lot of wind. like some of us have never experienced before on the way to the bay area. stick around. first, it's calm out there for now. fog. check your driv

and the navy launches an investigation into the former navy steel seal who claimed he took down osama bint back >> merry christmas eve day. up and at 'em. a lost us have a lot to do today. as you look live at 95, if you're headed out early this morning you're going to have a pretty decent ride except for the wet conditions. here in the ongoing work zone by cottman avenue you can see it's very wet. the spray is coming up off the vehicles. was don't see is any extra overnight construction so that's good news. all the lanes are opened in both directions. and on the big picture no delays to report so far this morning along the schuylkill, roosevelt boulevard also looks fine at this point as does 611 broad street, no problems through north philadelphia. but we're getting word of a problem resulting from an overnight crash, it's downed wires in king of prussia along byberry road at saratoga road. verizon is on the scene making repairs and in upper providence a crash along ming go road at springer town road. no issues so far this morning on 422 and if you have to get out there and do last minute

zero in on osama bin laden. ook the interrogations of mohammad and two other terrorists to identify the currier which led the c.i.a. to bin laden's hideout in afghanistan. while the report had new details, it will not lead to additional charges. >> pelley: bob, thank you. one senate republican supporting the report is john mccain. he was shot down over north vietnam in 1967 and as a p.o.w., he was tortured more than five years. >> i have long believed some of these practices amounted to torture as a reasonable person would define it, especially but not only the practice of waterboarding, which is a mock execution and an exquisite form of torture. i know from personal experience, that the abuse of prisoners will produce more bad than good intelligence. i know that victimes of torture will offer intentionally misleading information if they think their captors will believe it. i know they will say whatever they think their torturers want them to say if they believe it will stop their suffering. >> pelley: the c.i.a.

and among those were bits of information that led to abu akmed al-cue wady, leading to osama bin laden. they are saying, well look, this was not actionable information. no, but the information we got was critical to ultimately finding the individuals and blocking them. >> a final quick word from you on the dangers of getting - i know you believe the report needed to come out, as i know senator mccain and dianne fienstein believed it should. now we have warnings to domestic law enforcement, across the world to american facilities, risk? >> i'm not. they should have thought about national security and the harm in the middle east back to when they architected and carried out, justified and destroyed evidence of and defended these programs, number one. number two, the report has been out and we have seen no disruptive plots in the middle east, and all the fear-mongering that went on preceding the release of the report. finally i urge mr grenier to read the report and the footnotes, which meticulously documented contraried pretty much everything he said on the programme about torture creati

women who work hard at the cia. >> reporter: one key question -- did the interrogations help get osama bin laden? s report sails the report sails ays no. the cia says yes. that only through harsh interrogation did they discover bin laden's personal messager and following him led to bin laden's hideout in pakistan. the report was done entirely by democrats and most republicans are trashing it. but not john mccain, who, himself, was tortured in vietnam. were are and who we as spire to do. we must not. >> and john is with us live from the white house. and we heard support for president bush there. have we heard if president obama supports what he learned from this report? >> reporter: we heard from president obama's director of the cia, saying he disagrees with the report on that critical question of whether or not it saved lives. the director of the cia, obama's director, says yes it did. they're not saying that here at the white house. all they're saying, even if the interrogation program worked, it wasn't worth it. >> jon, thank you. and of course, the question now, does revealing all of t

what are we are hearing about osama bin laden's compound? >> the cia and democrat-led senate investigators disagree over who provided the initial leads to the cure your who led them to osama bin laden's hideout in pakistan in 2011. the cia says it was this man, a nephew of 9/11 mast fer mind sheikh muhammad who first identified the cure courier. >> information we got from detainees, including detainees who had undergone enhanced interrogation, contributed to the wealth of knowledge that we needed to have in order to find al kuwaiti, his true identity, and that led to us pages. >> today the cia director john brennan issued a statement that reads in part, while we made mistakes the record does not support the inference that the agency intentionally mislead each of these audiences -- a reference to congress, the administration and the american public -- on the effectiveness of the program. shep? >> well know they reviewed six million documents. much has been made by those who for various reasons did not want this report to come out. about the f

if you look at the information we had on the courier that took us to osama bin laden, we had four sources and all four sources had the information they knew to attract this guy before they were exposed to enhanced interrogation techniques. >> karl? >> it's not true. al kuwaiti, the courier, was identified as a low level operative. it was only after enhanced interrogation techniques were used on al balachi, he's the first guy to say he's osama bin laden's courier. that happened only after enhanced interrogation. khalid shaikh mohammed is saying, no, he left al qaeda in 2002. then after eit confirms khalid shaikh mohammed is lying and that al kuwaiti is actually the courier delivering messages to and from osama bin laden. this is what -- you talked to mike hayden. mike hayden is the cia director who took the extraordinary step of authorizing a huge commitment of resources by the cia on the hunch of these interrogators that khalid shaikh mohammed was not telling truth and al kuwaiti was more important than the current information led them to believe. >> the senate report debunks that theory

robert o'neill went on a media tour claiming he shot osama bin laden during a 2011 raid.arned o'neill not to speak about the secret mission. however, he gave several interviews. the navy is now looking into whether or not he revealed too much information. >> health department authorities continue to wait for test results to determine what caused the death of 17-year-old andrew speck. the downingtown high school west student died last friday while working at his part-time job. he tested positive for the flu. officials wants to know if that flu is what killed him. it's now 5:57 and philadelphia an imposter. find out who he claims to be in order to scam people out of money. "action news" will be right back. >> ♪ >> "action news." delaware valley's leading news program. with matt o'donnell, tamala edwards, karen rogers and meteorologist dave murphy. >> ♪ >> good morning. it's 6:00 a.m. on this >> good morning. merry christmas. matt is off, erin o'hearn is joining us and we're following some breaking news stories. >> police opened fire killing an armed man near the already ten

and a cia report says harsh interrogations did not lead to the finding of osama bin laden. after he was killed in 2011, top cia officials told lawmakers that information from brutal interrogations played a crucial role, but the senate report says the cia's story is not true. cia officials maintain that interrogated detainees provided critical details. >>> also today, the house select committee on benghazi will hold its second hearing. this session will focus on improving the safety of u.s. diplomats in facilities around the world. the first hearing in september investigated the attack on the consulate in benghazi two years ago when, as you remember, an ambassador and three others were killed. we'll continue to follow these stories and more throughout the morning. live in the digital operations center, i'm vai sikahema, nbc 10. >>> on capitol hill, there is a deal on the table to keep the federal government running. last night, lawmakers agreed on a $1.1 trillion spending bill that would prevent a government shutdown. the deal will allow just about all federal agencies to ru

media and said that these enhanced interrogation techniques led us to osama bin laden.pt us safe. to use to cheney words, they say thousands of lives, tens of thousands of lives. at that point, the u.s. justice department terminated its investigation of nearly 100 cia excesses that were potentially crimes in the perpetrators had one exoneration. now what they're fighting for is not just exoneration, they want vinification before the bar of history. that is critical in a couple of ways. first of all, if they win the fight and say these techniques were first of all not torture and second of all they kept us save, they will then be exempt from civil litigation by the victims, second of all to possibly u.s. colonel investigations to international arrest should they travel abroad, and more importantly in terms of policy, that means this doctrine will remain in the presidential toolkit so that the future president can set aside president obama's restrictions on these methods and torture again. and that is why this is a desperate and very serious battle over impunity. and that

is there any evidence at all that the use of torture led to the capture of osama bin laden?>> i don't believe so. there's actually no hard evidence to indicate that the use of enhanced interrogation techniques led directly to the killing of osama bin laden, which took place almost a decade after 9/11. so if the enhanced interrogation techniques worked in the first place, it wouldn't have taken us a decade to get to osama bin laden. that's on the one hand -- >> did we find out about the courier from using the advanced interrogation? >> there is no knowledge to this was the case. and there are a number of other cases where the cia indicated that interrogation of zubaydah had led to capture or killing of suspected terrorists or foiling of future plots. there's no hard evidence to the best of my knowledge. >> let me go back to you, mark. the report details how cia personnel reacted after witnessing a prisoner being interrogated with these enhanced techniques. on august 8, 2002, cia personnel reported, today's first session had a profound effect on all staff members present. it s

most importantly we got in the search for osama bin laden came from using conventional interrogation methods. i think it's an insult to the many intelligence officers who have acquired good intelligence without hurting or degrading prisoners to assert we can't win the war without such methods. we can and we will. but in the end, torture has failed to serve its intended purpose. isn't the main reason to oppose its use. i've often said and will always maintain that this question isn't about our enemies. it's about us. it's about who we were, who we are and who we aspire to be. it's about how we represent ourselves to the worlds. we have made our way in this often dangerous and cruel world not by just strictly pursuing our geo political interests by ex emplifying our rules. when we fight to defend our security, we fight also for an idea. not for a tribe or a twisted interpretation of an ancient religion or for a king but for an idea that all men are endowed by their creator with inalienable rights. how much safer the world would be if all nations believed the same. how much more dangero

did information gleaned through torture expose osama bin laden? cia says yes. cliff notes version.elligence from the u.s. uncovered bin laden's hideout by identifying his courier and putting a tail on him. what got them to this kuwaiti who ratted out the man? it's the most crucial or the most valuable and he was not related to the cia's enhanced interrogation techniques. this is the swampt's side of this. their response is that it is impossible to know in hindsight if we could have got the same information without using enhanced interrogation techniques, aka torture. karen greenburg is back with me today. perhaps the top authority on the treatment of detainees. karen, welcome back. >> nice to be here. >> with everything you know, who is right? is it the senate report or the cia? >> the senate report is very comprehensive and gives us the most detailed report we've had yet on what happened in the leadup to the capture of bin laden. it's very incremental and convincing. basically what the report says is this al kuwaiti was identified and details came in 2004 from somebody who was not

who claims he killed osama bin laden is under investigation. cnn has learned the naval criminal investigative service is trying to determine whether robert o'neill revealed classified information. the former s.e.a.l. team six-member made several television appearances last month retelling the story of operation spear, the incursion into pakistan that led to bin laden's death. >>> that brazen gun smuggling ring, remember, involving former and current delta airlinesle employees, it's being called a huge wake-up call for the nation. >> now, this scheme really poses a threat in terms of terrorism. if they can put guns on the plane this time, they could have easily put a bomb on one of those planes. >> this as we're getting our first look at surveillance video of one of the suspects. that's mark henry at atlanta's hartsfield-jackson and jfk airport. allegedly took guns from atlanta to new york. three others were involved in the probe. the tsa is saying they're using the findings to improve current security processes. >>> a collision on the tarmac at

. >> if you look at the information we had on the courier that took us to osama bin laden, he had foursources on that and those four sources all provided all the information that the cia needed to know to track this guy before they were exposed to enhance interrogation techniques or never having been exposed to those techniques. >> many say this public airing of the agency's business will be similar to the church committee hearings of the 1970s. the agency had become too risk averse as a result of those hearings. heal health healtherer? . >> i think it is best presented by the architect of the cia's enhanced for gacey program. the biggest interrogation -- those who were briefed the earliest about the methodsing with used. >> i remember very clearly a briefing of nancy pelosi in 2002, she never objected to the techniques at all. the only one that ever objected to any of this and it was more of a caution was jane harmon in 2003 when she said, be careful because the perception will be in the future that we did this to hide something. >> the senate committee was, members of the senate were