he's the one who tried to get osama bin laden.ut on 9/11, john o'neil was in the world trade center and he was killed by al qaeda and by osama bin laden. >> in the series, they also focus on your personal life. you had this wonderful woman, you had to keep explaining to her you had to go off on secret missions that you couldn't tell her about. you are the terrorist hunter. and yet your marriage has lasted. you have kids. your unit survived. how? >> well, i think lucky, i guess. i don't know. we have angels watching over us. but she's amazing. she endured a lot. when i said one day i think we had an event at "the washington post" and somebody asked me about my day, and i left her in the restaurant, did she take you back? >> as portrayed in the series. >> i said yeah, she's my wife now. they were like, you shouldn't say that. >> that's a happy ending. thank you so much indeed. >> thank you. >>> my next guest has used her blockbuster book and the platform they have given her to tell often deeply uncomfortable truths about race, gende

if you look at the osama bin laden exploitation documents, osama bin laden said go to syria , find the talent and bring the talent into the organization. they want charismatic leaders that can actually move people and do things. that is what they are looking for. they are better at venting individuals that isis was -- that isis was. ahmad: if we talk about isis presence in iraq, it does not have a significant presence. based on my own talks with iraqi officials, they don't see that as a major threat. but the al qaeda organization has decentralized over five years. they are not a smaller organization, they are not are forces but there in iraq that have an association

i spoke to martin and started by asking him about his first impression of osama bin laden's mother.at walking into the interview. she had a lot of presence. she controlled the room. she control the conversation. she was very coherent. she joked. she control the conversation. she was very coherent. shejoked. she was very coherent. shejoked. she was lively. she was basically good company. tell us a bit more about the inside that she gave you about what drove osama bin laden to become the mastermind of this appalling, the mastermind of this appalling, the worst terrorist incident, 9/11. at the start of the conversation, i could have been sticking to any mother who had lost a son anywhere in the world. she was very much akin to her memories of him as a child. she said he was tedious, he was pious, he was polite. he was a mentor to his younger half—brothers and sisters. she said he was almost and sisters. she said he was almost a perfect child and she loved him very much and he did, too. then we get to the university years at a university in saudi arabia and that she believes her son was

he oversaw that navy seal raid that led to the killing of osama bin laden, writing this scathing op ed in the "washington post" going after the president in very direct terms, saying he has not risen to the presidency and saying, i would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well. you have embarrassed us, humiliated us on the world stage and worst of all divided us as a nation. if you think for a moment your mccarthy era tactics will suppress voices of criticism, you are sadly mistaken. mccraven has been critical of this president in the past. he had some very strong remarks about the president calling the press the enemy of the people, calling it, quote, the greatest threat to democracy he's ever seen. of course, he's seen a lot of threats to democracy over his years in the military, but very strong language today siding with someone that he has served with, john brennan in light of this move by the president just yesterday. >> yes. the admiral understands what the enemy of the people actually really means. what about this reaction on capitol hill? are repu

tell us what struck you when you spoke to osama bin laden's mother.e room. she controlled the conversation. she was very coherent. she joked, she was very coherent. she joked, she was lively and she was basically good company. and tell us more about the sort of insights that she gave you about what drove osama bin laden to become the mastermind of this appalling, the worst terrorist incident, 9/11? while, at the start of the conversation i could have been speaking to any mother who had lost a son the world. she was very much sticking to her memories of osama as a child. she said he was studious, pious, polite. she said he was a mentor to his younger brothers and sister and she said he was almost a perfect child. she loved him very much and he did too. then we get to the university years at king abdulaziz university injeddah. alia ghanem believes her son was radicalised by a group belonging to the muslim brotherhood there. she says the transformation was slow at the beginning. it became almost a zealotry. he became quite hardened and distant. still lov

navy admiral who oversaw the raid that captured osama bin lauden. what kind of impact, general, do you think that's going to have? good evening, by the way. >> good evening. don, by the way, i know today was a day of personal loss for you, so condolences to you from myself and my wife jeannine. >> thank you, general. >> now, on this letter, i read it mid afternoon. it was absolutely breath taking. i mean, talk about 250 lean words, packing a great punch. and frankly, i don't think i'm exaggerating here, probably reflecting a broad consensus amongst a majority of the men in american -- and women in american military uniforms. they're tired of this. they're very proud of their nation. and bill mcraven's comments show a certain sense of embarrassment. and so i think it actually will be a crystallizing moment in terms of attitudes. now, the chairman of the joint chiefs, general dunford isn't going to go out and say things publicly. all these people who are still on active duty will maintain their silence and, of course, they will do their duty. but when

. >> famous photo of the night of the osama bin laden raid. you tweeted john brennan was the point person for obama white house on the operation that killed osama bin laden. there is a deeper point. this is a guy that you want to keep close to you. this is a guy who actually knows something about some of the biggest threats facing this country. >> he served for decades. he knows more about terrorism than just about anybody in the country. you would want him as a resource. you ask about motivation. donald trump, his associates are under investigation for potentially conspiring with a foreign adversary to undermine our democracy. that is already produced guilty pleas. and that circle is closing around donald trump, his family members and closest associates. so what he needs is villains. to stir up his base. john brennan is a patriots. and we have the president in the oval office who is being investigated for potentially conspiring with russia. that is the real story here. and what trump wants is it to be he said, she said. no, there is one perso

raid that ultimately killed osama bin laden in pakistan, he's now calling for president trump to revokecourse, in reaction to what happened to former cia director john brennan, his clearance taken away by the white house as we learned from the briefing this time yesterday. jeremy diamond is our white house reporter and jeremy, we're talking about retired admiral william mccraven. what exactly did he say? >> that's right, brooke. well, admiral mccraven, who is pretty highly respected former senior military officer, who as you mentioned, did oversee the planning and the execution of the raid that ultimately killed osama bin laden, he has now put out a statement telling the president to revoke his security clearance, as well, after the president moved just yesterday to revoke the security clearance of former cia director, john brennan. let me just read you an excerpt of this really remarkable letter from admiral mccraven. he writes, like most americans, i had hoped that when you became president, you would rise to the occasion and become the leader this great nation needs. through your act

military history, the raid that killed osama bin laden. today the strongest of words for the american president. he said in his op-ed former cia director john brennan whose security clearance you revoked is one of the finest public servants i have known. i would consider it an honor if you revoke my security clearance as well so i can add my name. through your actions referencing the president you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and divided us as a nation. and just a final point on the importance of folks who maintain their security clearance like this, former intelligence officials, this guy involved in literally hundreds of special operations raids killing all the bad guys or many of the bad guys in iraq and afghanistan, if there was someone you wanted to consult or a terror threat to the u.s. and someone you had to take out abroad he would be the man. that is why maintaining the clearances means something. >> no shortage of credibility there. how remarkable is it for the former cia direc

why the architect of the osama bin laden raid is asking to have his security clearance pulled. >>> tragic discovery. police finding the body of a woman and two young girls. after investigators arrested the family's father. >> we feel so stupid about that now. >> and hear from close family friends who offered for the man to stay with them before he was arrested. >>> remembering aretha. ♪ r-e-s-p-e-c-t >> paying respect to the queen of soul from presidents to fans. even in outer space. how aretha franklin is being recommended this morning. >>> plus, free tuition for all. where medical students will be going to school for free. >>> and why this weekend is expected to be the busiest wedding weekend in years. >>> and we do say good morning on this friday. i'm kendis gibson. >> i'm linsey davis in for diane. >>> we're going begin with the breaking news. a severe damaging storm stretching from the south to the great lakes and poised to push east ward today. >> heavy wind and rain have been hammering parts of the south since last evening. one storm cell taking aim at northern alabama. virtually d

this is such a ridiculous thing to say, that trump is like osama bin laden?ean, look, on basis of being able to rally men and appeal to young men. look, football coaches do that. i've been in the army. the drill instructors do that. if that is it, then, i mean it's, it is comparison that is meaningless. liz: you know what -- >> besides being inaccurate. liz: beyond. what happened to when they go low we go high? again, what's with the democrat messaging here as it relates to getting the message out to the middle class or working class voters? what is your take on the messaging here? >> well the message is, we don't like donald trump. he's terrible. liz: he is a terrorist. >> and all the republicans working for him. they don't have a message. there is no policy message. it is all, it is all trump. look, democrats have an advantage in this race as the out party does in a midterm election but i don't think they have played it very well. they may win the house anyway. at the moment i would say they would but -- liz: fred, here is the thing. market is up 40%. at 18

one thing he doesn't want is a lot of bin laden's wives, i think, getting on tv or talking about osama binen, reminding people about bin laden. and also, by the way, brooke, bin laden's three wives are true believers. they were with him throughout his sort of terroristic career as it were and some of them are even more militant than bin laden, so you certainly wouldn't want them giving the kind of interview that his mother gave which is pretty anadine and isn't sort of saying we're committed to jihad. >> right. compared to what his wives would be saying. >> yeah. >> keep them quiet. yeah. peter bergen, thank you. >> thank you. >>> coming up next, this manhunt in texas comes to an end today after the man accused of killing a prominent houston cardiologist takes his own life. what police are revealing about this list they found at his home. liberty mutual saved us almost $800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. with liberty, we could afford a real babysitter instead of your brother. hey! oh, that's my robe. is it? when you switch to liberty mutual, you could save $782 on auto and h

you tell the story about during that time when they were obviously wanting to kill and capture osama binrennan in the room who was the one saying, you know, we have faith in our seals, they really dedicated their lives to this mission of finding osama bin laden. they believed he was in that compound which was not what the vice president and secretary of defense were saying, right? >> yes. on the final national security council meeting on the decision to capture, kill bin laden, president obama went around the room and secretary gates advised against the raid and there were too many things that could go wrong. vice president biden made similar kind of recommendations to the president. brennan was always -- he had great faith in the cia analysts who developed the sicircumstantl case that bin laden was in the compound and he was close to president obama. he was a strong voice for let's do the raid. yes, there are risks, but you capture or kill bin laden, you get the intelligence that you pick up there and doing nothing or doing some other kind of approach, you know, also has risk. so brenna

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. >> the statement came hours after the architect of the osama bin laden raid retired admiral william published a stunning rebuke. he wrote, brennan is one of the finest public certify vent serv ever known. i would like you to revoke any security clearance as well. >> despite the criticism. most republicans don't seem to think revoking brennan's clea clearance is that big of a deal. >> i don't know former employee continue to carry their clearance anyway. i don't see how he has helped. >> mr. brennan has gone way over the view. pulling his clearance makes sense. >> the fact he is out there every single day acting in a partisan way doesn't help his cause. >> former top government officials are generally allowed to keep security clearance to advise feud administrations. >>> president trump will have to wait until next year for his military parade. it was scheduled for november, but the defense department will explore dates into 2019. the parade would be held on the eve of the armistice that ended world war i. >> the planning for the parade is up to $92 million. tens of millions higher t

finding osama bin laden was a huge part of his job and his life's work after 9/11. brennan made his posting much of a clandestine, cia station chief in saudi arabia and cia chief of staff and director of terrorist threat integration center and white house homeland security adviser and briefed three presidents. earlier brennan himself spoke by phone with our nicole wallace. >> i believe that mr. trump decided to take this action and he has done with others try to intimidate or suppress of any criticism of him or his administration. revoking my security clearances is his way of trying to get back at me and this is not going to deter me at all. i am going to continue to speak out. he fears individuals who could damage him, damage his branding from the american people. look at the way he's been referring to bob mueller. mueller is an icon and doing his best to investigate in the investigation and mueller's team is reprehensible. mr. trump is getting more concerned and more and more desperate and frightened as closer and closer magnification of those around him had been

respect individual rights a court here in germany has ruled that a suspected former bodyguard of osama bin laden must be brought back from tunisia last month regional authorities sent the tunisian national who is known as some e.a. back to his home country before his appeal against the deportation order could be heard. when out to italy the country has declared a twelve month state of emergency in the city of genoa as it tries to deal with the collapse of a key highway bridge prime minister jews have been called to as promised millions of euros in aid to the major port city and blame that the tragedy on the company responsible for the bridges upkeep of the fifty year old marandi bridge was scheduled for extensive maintenance later this year but it collapsed during heavy rain yesterday a section of concrete the signs of a soccer pitch and dozens of vehicles crashed on to buildings and railway lines below thirty nine deaths have been confirmed so far firefighters are now spending a second night searching for survivors. the scene in genoa is one of utter devastation. firefighters and doctors

one of the worst is publishing listening to osama bin laden's phone in the late '90s. because of that, he stopped using the phone and the country lost valuable intelligence. >> that story is just not true. it was debunked years ago, despite the claim having been made by george w. bush and the 9/11 commission. osama bin laden was known to use a satellite phone, something that was widely known at the time and had been previously reported. by the time it was reported the u.s. may be able to monitor that phone, bin laden was already scaling back use of those devices, it's quite a stretch to go back two dpek aids to a debunked story to defend the behavior we all saw last night. are you supporting a free press if you spread lies from the podium? and does the president support a free press, if he also support the people who try to stop journalists from doing their jobs. the president retweeted a video of fans booing jim acosta. the rally gets ugly. what does the president do? retweet a video in support of the hecklers. that's why when asked a second time whether she supports

the president and his national security team monitoring the take down of osama bin laden. in it he tells the president as we just deluded to, quote, "i would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well so i can admin name to the list of men and women who spoken up against your presidency." thr through your action you embarrassed us and worse of all divided us from the nation. someone who knows the admiral very well, mark huntly. . >> you served with admiral mcraven in europe and in iraq. he's a formal davies senavy sea. >> jim, primarily because he's courageous, i think i know bill mcraven very well, we did serve together in europe and he was this commander in iraq when i commanded the first army division. he's a man of courage, of few words but he's courageous in terms of what he speaks. he's a true american patriot. he understands our constitution and he knows what right looks like. i was proud to serve with bill mcraven back when we were both in uniforms and i am especially proud of the fact that he did in fact speak out today against some of

barbara starr pointing out mccraven is much more than the osama bin laden guy. yes, that's important but as barbara said in the note, this speaks to on the day something awful happened you need every person in the room. if you're just taking security clearance away willy-nilly because of a political issue on the day you need those people, where are you? >> we have seen donald trump throughout the course of his campaign. nuance goes away. there is just him and not him and he is putting everyone, people who have served their country for decades and various capacities under various presidents of different parties, he's putting everybody in one big bucket, you're against me and therefore i'm going to treat you all the same. you don't deserve a clearance because you are against me. it's not how things have ever been done and it's a dangerous new precedent. i don't know that it's a precedent that would be followed with another president but it reminds us that much of our system is norms not laws and it's up to one man to decide what to do. >> and he's doing it to an e

and this after a scathing review by inman who over saw the osama bin laden raid. >> mr.ate to punish your critic stphz. >> reporter: tell thing wall street journal he stripped the security clearance of john brennan and threatened to revoke others. "i call it a rigged witch hunt. it is a sham. and these people led it. so it's something that has to be done." and "mr. trump's claims off no collusion are, in a wash". >> we're better than this. we have to be better than this. >> reporter: a show of solidarity -- and calling brennan a man of unparalleled integrity, honor and goating the president. i would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well. >> look, i thought it was a banana republic kind of thing and i don't like it. >> clearance. >> reporter: but some defend thing president include thi and burr adding if quote "the president has full authority to revoke his security clearance." and he's not alone. >> i acatually believe it was about time because brennan has been very out spoken for a guy dealing in the national security interests as he was

now, retired navy admiral william mcgraven who was in command of the navy seal raid that killed osama bin laden wrote a letter to the president saying john brennan is one of the finest public servants i have ever known. few americans have done more to protect this country than john. he is a man of unparalleled integrity whose honesty and character have never been in question except by those who don't know him. therefore, i would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well so i can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency. joining us now, former staff director for the house intelligence committee and vice president of the national security program at the third way. also with us former chief of staff to vice presidents joe biden and al gore and former senior aid to president obama. and chief strategist for mitt romney's 2012 presidential campaign. i am so struck by what is now turning into an honor roll. here we have the first step forward saying please revoke my security clearance, too. >> what you are seeing is the nati

against the president's assault on free speech and the man who orchestrated the raid that killed osama bin laden daring the president to revoke his security clearance. that's where we begin. just a short time ago the president spoke on camera for the first time that he withdrew the clearance from former cia director john brennan. here he was. >> there's no silence. if anything i'm giving him a bigger voice. many people doesn't even know who he is and now he has a bigger voice and that's okay with me because i like taking on voices like that. i've never respected him. i've never had a lot of respect. senator burr said it best. if you knew anything why didn't you report it when you were before the committees, including their committee. he had a chance to report. he never did. this just came up lately. it's a disgusting thing frankly. >> the president then went after the only active justice department official whose clearance is under review. bruce war who was demoted from his position after the discovery of some meetings with the man who wrote the now infamous dossier. >> i think bruce is a

you also saw today the retired navy admiral who led the raid of osama bin laden, said, mr. president, i would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well. add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency, a pretty striking comment. >> we'll see if the president takes him up on that, josh dawsey, thanks for your reporting. many people taking exception with what the president has already done, as josh was mentioning there, retired admiral william mcraven. to explain to you who he is, you have to know what he was doing when they snapped this iconic photo in the white house "situation room" back in 2011. the president and his national security team monitoring the take-down of osama bin laden where was admiral mcraven at that moment? not in the picture. why? he was in afghanistan, overseeing that operation. he has sense retired and made a point of staying out of partisan politics, which makes the op-ed he wrote in today's "washington post" so extraordinary in it. he tells the president, as we just alluded to, i would

osama bin laden led al qaeda and the 9/11 attacks from here. >> ours is a war against terrorism in general>> reporter: troops deployed to gons afghanistan in 2001. three u.s. presidents promised victory here. >> we are winning the war on terror. >> our longest war will be over. >> we will win. >> reporter: the war's climbed over 100,000 afghan lives. and this year has been the worst for civilian deaths. these exclusive pictures were taken for abc news from inside taliban territory. they now have control or influence over more than half the country, with their own government, police, courts. many of their fighters have died in battle. others are now on death row. >> heading into one of the main prisons in afghanistan today that houses 4,000 convicted terrorists. we're going here to try to talk to the taliban but the prison guards are worried, they've told us it's not safe inside. but the inmates seemed eager to meet us. were all these men in the taliban? this prisoner says they're defending their country and they won't stop until all foreign troops leave. >> what would you like to say to th

special command, who did lead the raid that took out osama bin laden in 2011, w is a retired admiral, who is not, lett be noted, a talking adhundred television, ner has been, he's not someone who comments. ty has been the chancellor of the univerf texas. he is known as bull frog because that's the senior member of the navy seals and he was the senior member to have the navy seals. he was a professional. he emerged and not only defended johnan brennwhom donald trump made it quite clear he's attacking -- he's attaking because to have the russian investigation,e blames hi y,st as he got rid of james cohich he admitted simply because he wanted to get rid of him and because heeared him, not because of the rod rosenstein memo on comey's less than dispassionate activity in the hillary clinton matter. so what you have is somebody, mcraven, saying the following, through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children humiliated us the world stage and worst of all divided us as a country. nobody has a right to a security clearance, but what donald trump has done is he's politi

the navyrable retired who ran the osama bin laden raid, put out his t,own statemall a defending john brennan whose clearance was taken away and offering to ve his own security clearance. give that up for the president. what has donald trump accomplished by doing this? >> well, i mean, he's d something that probably shouldn't be politicized, but i confess, t hauble getting my knickers in a twist about this one. a lot of us don't he security clearances, doesn't seem to be a problem in life. the reason they pt people on security clearance after their time in office is so they can offer advice, and i think, frankly, it's a little vanity thing that people get to say i still have my security so when it's taken away, but nohn brennan wasn't given the trump administratdvice anyway, so the idea they have to enve without security clearance after they have ut of office doesn't strike me as one of donald trump's most mass transgressions in office. doesn't strike me particularly as a free eech issue john brennan, the rest of us without security clearance arerf tly free to have our speech, and i g

well, this after former navy admiral william mccraven, who oversaw the raid that killed osama bin lauddenette challenging the president to revoke his clearance as well. what are republicans saying about trump's decision to take away the security clearance? >> to be honest, for the most part republicans on capitol hill are supportive of the decision or at least not speaking out against it. there's a few isolated voices that sort of cried foul on the president's move including senator bob corker, who heads the foreign relations committee in the senate. but for the most part what we're hearing is broadly supportive of the president. john cornyn who over sees the intelligence community and who is the second in command among senate republicans came out in support of the president's decision. rand paul, who has been a close ally of president trump for years now, not only supported the decision but called for it before it happened. cory gardner, one of the most important republicans politically because he heads the national republican senatorial committee, came out in support of the decision. so

and late today, the man who oversaw the raid on osama bin laden, his message for president

government and the tanzanian government to move forward in the face of this heinous act that was done by osama bin laden and al qaeda. i will forever be grateful to all those heroes in the audience today. thank you. [applause] >> thank you, ambassador bushnell and ambassador lange. for those powerful and stirring remarks. we're very grateful and honored you're here with us. now at this time i'd like to invite everyone to observe a moment of silence in honor of those who perished 20 years ago today on august 7th. [moment of silence] moment of silence [ [moment of silence] >> thank you all. >> in conclusion, i'd like to ask that we continue the vigilance that ambassador bushnell has urged on us, leadership in the department, and you have my pledge that we will be and are and will be vigilant. thank you again and may god bless your loved ones who were lost on august 7th, god bless you and may god continue to bless the united states of america. thank you. [applause] >> thank you very much for your eloquence, heart and soul, mr. deputy secretary, pru and john. this concludes the ceremony and

ability to listen to osama bin laden's satellite phone in the late '90s.ng that phone and the company lost valuable intelligence. >> that claim is not true and has been debunked for more than a decade. the taliban released information on osama bin laden's phone records two years prior to any u.s. report. >> it is incredible something like that slips through the crack at the white house press office. >>> yeah. president trump is launching his most direct attack on the russia probe, announcing on twitter that jeff sessions should end it right now. peter alexander has more. >> reporter: president trump tight-lipped in person. >> sir, are you ordering the mueller investigation to be shut down? >> reporter: but explosive on twitter, for the first time calling on the nation's top law enforcement official to end the russia investigation, tweeting, attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witch-hunt right now before it continues to stain our country any further. the president's critics pouncing. >> these kinds of threats are no accident. they reflect

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kenyan government and the tanzanian government to move forward in the face of this heinous act by osama bin laden. i will forever be grateful to those in the audience today, thank you. [applause] >> thank you, ambassador bushnell, for those powerful and stirring remarks. we are grateful you are here with us. at this time i would like to invite everyone to observe a moment of silence in honor of those who parents 20 years ago today on august 7th. >> thank you all. in conclusion i would like to ask about the vigilance, leadership in the department, and pledge the we will be and be vigilant. thank you again and may god bless your loved ones who were lost on august 7th. and may god bless the united states of america, thank you. [applause] >> thank you very much for your eloquence, heart and soul, this concludes the ceremony and we would like to invite everyone to please come forward for a group photo. thank you so much. god bless you all. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> tonight at 8:00 pm eastern, former president barack obama delivers the mandela lecture in south africa. >> it does not

raid that killed osama bin laden in 2011 has a message for president trump.my security clearance, too. william mcraven is standing by former cia director john brennan after president trump stripped his security clearance this week. mcraven wrote a letter in "the washington post" arguing few americans have done more to protect this country than john brennan and, therefore, i would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well so i can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency. joining me, nicholas rasmussen, the former director of the national counterterrorism center and an msnbc national security and intelligence analyst. he is also a close personal friend of admiral mcraven. nick, thank you so much for joining us. let me read another portion of mcraven's op-ed in "the washington post." he says through your actions, talking about the president here, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage, and worst of all divided us as a nation. if you think for a

and the execution arm of shooting osama bin laden in the face. john brennan, on the other hand, got them there to carry out the mission, to avenge the 3,000 lives that we lost at 9/11. these are two men of the highest integri integrity. i have met john brennan many times. he is a man who speaks his mind usually with great reservation. on the other hand, you have admiral mcraven, speaking as a patriot. he is saying the president of the united states cannot do this. it is an absolute vote -- if you tie it into the other cia directors, it is a vote of no confidence on this president with regards to intelligence and special operations matters. that will speak to his supporters. >> i want to play a little bit of what the admiral had to say earlier today, and then, sean, get your reaction on the other side. >> the reason people told theho security clearances is to be helpful, remain appraised of facts. we would give away generations of experience if people did not have the ability to look at the facts in a classified setting and provide advice to their

ability to listen to osama bin laden's satellite phone in the late '90s. because of that reporting, he stopped using that phone and the country lost valuable intelligence. >> so, as for the last part of what she just said there, the bit about reporting accurately and fairly, yes, certainly people in the media get things wrong. i've gotten things wrong, not often, but we do. when that happens, we correct it. sometimes within seconds or minutes, as fast as we can. the same cannot be said of sarah sanders or the president or others in the white house. keeping them honest, though the example sarah sanders mentioned there about osama bin laden and the phone, that's actually not true. "the washington post" fake-checkers ran it all down 13 years ago. by the time the story sarah sanders was apparently referring to ran in september of 1998, bin laden had apparently already stopped using his satellite phone. in fact, cnn's peter bergen, who has reported extensively on this as early as 1997 met with bin laden. bin laden's men were already concerned about electronic s

if you look at the osama bin laden exploitation documents, osama bin laden said go to syria , find the talent and bring the talent into the organization. they want charismatic leaders that can actually move people and do things. that is what they are looking for. they are better at venting individuals that isis was -- that isis was. ahmad: if we talk about isis presence in iraq, it does not have a significant presence. based on my own talks with iraqi officials, they don't see that as a major threat. but the al qaeda organization has decentralized over five years. they are not a smaller organization, they are not are forces but there in iraq that have an association with isis, and the iraqi government isn't much concerned about whether it is al qaeda or isis. it is bad andd that the conditions can help them to a resurgence. it is just to extremists that take different needs at different times. vivian: the reason i am asking is, there is an ideological break between them, where al qaeda spoke out against isis going after shiite because they said they are both muslims and you shouldn't d

>> well, first of all,me osama bin laden's son, hamsa bin laden who is 29 years old and sees himselfs sort of the next young gun on the street has publicly come out and taken over for his dead father and wants to rekindle the al qaeda brand. as we know with terrorism over the years in israel, this is a very large psychological war, run by fear, and what we are seeing here is rekindling of al qaeda 2.0, starting to resurface on a tactical level. i think that al qaeda has had a significant amount of time since 2011 since osama bin laden was killed, all the p.r. and all the military operations have shifted to isis primarily iraq and syria and after president trump came into power, he was extremely aggressive by unleashing our forces, not just our special ops but larger control of infantry to flush out those pockets. it's given al qaeda a significant amount of time to regroup but from what i understand like with any other terror group we've taken down in israel or have smashed in israel, what happened is you get pieces of these -- of this organization which smashes into hundreds, if not