." >> the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden. >> it was just two years ago that navy seals in pakistan spoke the words geronimo ekia. that meant osama bin laden was finally dead. today, the fight continues. as we saw in boston. but stepping back from the moment's crisis, we also need to ask larger questions about the state of our security. what is the threat out there? and are we prepared for it? >> he intended to use the remaining explosives that he had and detonate them in times square. >> the fight today is at home and abroad. >> we have seen that threat become geographically dispersed. >> against al-qaida's core, its affiliates, known and unknown, in all corners of the globe. during this hour, we will explore some of the toughest challenges facing our intelligence community and our country. we will talk to people who have spent decades in the shadows and on the front lines on the gravest threats. we will examine the state of al-qaida today, how big of a threat is it? >> my experience was whenever you declare them dead, they prove you wrong. >> we'll

that man's name was osama bin laden. he issued this self-styled fatwa which he called a declaration of war against the americans occupying the land of the two holy places. the land of the two holy places is saudi arabia. the two holy places being mecca and medina. osama bin laden was, of course, a saudi citizen, and his whole first declaration of war on the united states hinged on the fact that the united states had military bases in the land of the two holy places, in saudi arabia. so that was 1996. then two years later, the second bin laden and al qaeda fatwa, the first one i against had been a little rambling. this one spelled it out much more directly. it said everybody should try to kill americans, american military personnel and civilians and the justification for doing that started in the same place as the fatwa before. the one in 1998 says first for over seven years the united states has been occupying the lands of islam in the holiest of places. the arabian peninsula. so this one was 1998. and since the first ir

could have their day in court. >> and 9/11 victims families didn't have their day in court with osama bin laden who knows? i'm saying, do you know whether the person who put the bullet and osama bin laden's head had a minute to react to speak with my interesting was the order from the very beginning with there's no point bringing him back. >> i have read so much about that, i tell you, if the order was just going until the son of a, then okay. that under the circumstances in which he was killed they -- i read everything that's been written i'm not certain the kids were in the room who had to decide whether or not he was going to kill them or they had to kill him. >> let's take questions from the audience but i assume at this point you are just going insane. can we get a microphone? do we want them to come up front? start laying some people up, would you be the first one to do this? by the way, come on, i have to take issues with one other thing you said which is the book i would recommend, the bones of gotham. >> i've read that and i think it's as good but not as quite as good as secondhand --

we knew there was a very wealthy man named osama bin laden who was funding a lot of terrorist groups.knew that there were people from terrorist groups from all over the world hanging out in afghanistan and in bin laden's circle. >> so you start to see signs of what looks like an organization, but is this bin laden as a financial manager with a bunch of companies funding various terrorist groups, or is there a separate terrorist group here. that was a big question. >> alex station was a collection of people who had backgrounds in everything from analysis to operations. when you think about the cia, there's two different cultures there. one is an analytic culture, people who try to assess things, figure out what is actually happening somewhere and project ahead, and an operational culture that is people who go out and collect intelligence, develop human spies, handle them, run them, if you will. the unique thing about alex station was the fusion of analysis and operations. we pushed the analysts and the operations people together so the operations people knew everything the analysts wer

waited nearly a decade to hear >> today, at my direction, the after a firefight, they killed osama bin laden and took custody of his body. >> warner: but for many of the people who'd helped find osama bin laden, their work had started nearly two decades earlier, long beforthe st- wanted man on earth had ened his infamy. their story of the c.i.a. analysts and officers who'd tracked down the al qaeda chief is told in the documentary hbo film "manhunt", debuting tonight. it's based on the book by cnn's peter bergen. >> in 1997 osama bin laden had declared war on the united states and no one was paying attention. >> there was just warning after warning. we knew something huge was going to happen. >> warner: but long before that september day, their chase began in a near-total information vacuum. >> well we certainly didn't know that al qaeda existed. we didn know there was a terrorist organization. we knew there was a very wealthy >> warner: the group tracking the elusive saudi militant was known as alec station, and was novel in its approach. >> the unique thing about alec station was the fusio

even better. ♪ >> pelley: the story of killing bin laden tonight on this special edition of "60 minutes presents." he is one of the men who shot osama laden. tonight, you will hear his account of the raid on bin laden's compound. are these guys yelling and charging up the stairs? is there a lot of action? how is it unfolding? >> you know, it's... it's not like the movies. movies make it out to be, you know, loud and crazy and everybody's yelling. it's quiet, calm. >> pelley: you're walking up the stairs. >> yep, nice and slow.

we confirmed this with records seized from osama bin laden's compaq after his death. we saw this with the plot to bomb the new york subway system in 2009. meanwhile, al qaeda affiliate's have emerged as significant threats. al qaeda in the arabian peninsula operating in yemen has attended several attacks on the united states, including the failed christmas day airline bombing in 2009 and the attempted bombing of u.s.-bound cargo planes in october 2010. most recently, we have a growing concern about the threat from homegrown violent extremists. these individuals have no typical profile. their experiences and motives are often distinct, but they are increasingly savvy and willing to act alone, which makes them difficult to find and stop. in 2009, smadi was a 19-year-old jordanian citizen living in texas, and although he espoused loyal to -- loyalty to al qaeda and some of the modern, he was not affiliated with any groups that would become terrorists. he had become radicalized on his own on the internet. when he expressed clear interest in attacking a dallas skyscraper,

for example in pakistan which has a lot of nuclear weapons when obama did a targeted killing of osama bin laden when he certainly could have captured him when they the u.s. military soldiers got to the compound to obama's that osama bin laden's compound base saw that they could have actually nobody was armed and so they could have captured him but yet they took him out and they did this without telling the pakistani government and obama said in his speech last week that in fact this caused a lot of tension between the united states and pakistan and and that's the kind of thing that happens when these drone strikes kill people especially in large numbers of civilians also the drone strikes don't just kill the target or whoever happens to be in the sights but then when people come to rescue the wounded then these drone strikes kill them as well and when they have funerals to bury the people who have been killed in the drone strikes then more drones come and kill the people at the funerals so this creates tremendous animosity against the united states and when high level generals were telling obam

osama bin laden is dead. >> al qaed. >>. >> we eliminated osama bin laden that.ths before the elections, that narrative they were selling turned out not to be true. do you think that is the reason why those talking points, the cia had it right from day one? do you think they lied to get reelected?. >> i can't know the answer to that. what i do know is that anyone dealing with that problem of al qaeda knows that we have killed leaders in al qaeda. and they are replaced within a matter of a month. there is a new one. you may go through three leaders in one part of iraq or afghanistan and they'll be re -- replaced. that is what happened. and that contingent that is -- has to be understood to be not correct. >> let's walk through this slowly. we know that the cia warned that there might be an attack on the september 11th anniversary. i would think that is a logical conclusion in deed. there were requests for security denied before the attack. during the attack we know from hearings there were two stand down orders people willing to go help those people under fire. th

osama bin laden's big demand was that we pulled u.s. bases out of saudi arabia and president george bush pulled u.s. bases out of saudi arabia. two decades later, we did the same thing. in 1983 there was a huge suicide truck bomb at the airport in lebanon. six months earlier there had been another big suicide car bomb attack, not on a barracks but u.s. embassy, 63 people killed including 17 americans at the barracks bombing, the toll was almost unimaginable. 299 dead including 220 u.s. marin marines, 18 american sailors, three american soldiers, nearly 60 of the allied french troops. the americans and the french and troops from a lot of other countries were there. they were in beirut as part of a peace keeping force trying to stop or mitigate the effects of a civil war that was raging in that country. and the bombings were a terrorist message that those international troops could get out, get out you infidelity occupying armies, we do not want you in our country. pull out the peace keepers. then president ronald reagan responded by pull

therefore, you won't see osama bin laden's pictures. >> osama bin laden. >> thank you. we can't forget the massive explosion that occurred april 17n in west texas. 14 people killed, 200 injured. willie nelson hasn't forgotten. on his 80th birthday he raised $120,000 which he gave to two towns devastated by the explosion. well done, willie nelson. >> that was a nice willie. >> he's alwa b

rather receiving end of the drone strikes these are people that level these are people that want osama bin laden to with you know in the terms of lindsey graham and all these other people they have every reason to be against al qaeda but we're giving them every reason to say well enemy of my enemy is my friend and you know blowback is i think inevitable you can't conduct these kinds of wars around the world killing innocent people in the pursuit of a few bad guys and pretend that it's not going to come back to you i can't tell you the number of people that i've met abbie when i've gone to afghanistan or yemen or somalia who said you know we had a positive view of the united states but then when this night raid happened that killed my wife or this drone strike happened that way out forty six people in this village i decided that i'm against you i had one guy in afghanistan whose family were not even pashto in their fighting against the taliban one of them was a senior police commander after a night raid he said i want to put on a suicide vest and blow myself up among the americans i want jihad ag

killed osama bin laden i mean that's what they wanted to do hillary clinton the wake of that also said this happens regularly you know which is kind of who are these other people that are the targets of these raids and also just the fact that we assassinated the most wanted terrorist in the world for a decade i mean we go in and assassinate him any intel i mean it's just amazing i never really understood why people were so excited about clinton got they they claim to have taken a huge duffle bags of stuff out and then the west point military academy translated all of these documents that they said that they found and some of them are are on line but i mean there's a lot of questions that are unresolved about what went on in that house that night what we actually gain from it one outcome of this of course the global war on terror is these forgotten prisoners in guantanamo bay sitting there half a greater now on a hunger strike and of course the rhetoric we hear is we can't trust the many government to take the prisoners so why is it the u.s. government trusts the yemeni governor. carry

to have their moment. >> -- >> and 9/11 victims' families didn't have their day in court with osama bin laden. >> who knows. seth -- thane, do you know whether the person who put the bullet in osama bin laden's head had a minute to react? >> my understanding from the very beginning was there's no point in bringing him back. >> i've read so much about that that, i tell you, if the order was just go in and kill the son of a bitch, then, you know, okay. but under the circumstances in which he was killed based on everything i've read, and i've read everything that's been written, i'm not certain you could second guess or fault the kids who were in that room who had to decide whether or not he was going to kill them or they had to kill him. >> okay. let's take some questions from the audience. i assume at this point you're just going insane. can we get a microphone? aaron, where do we -- do we want them to come up front? can we start lining some people up? would you be the first one to do this, and then people will fall in we hind you -- behind you, i'm quite sure. >> by the way, ben, i have to ta

therefore, you won't see osama bin laden's pictures. >> osama bin laden. >> thank you. we can't forget the massive explosion that occurred april 17n in west texas. 14 people killed, 200 injured. willie nelson hasn't forgotten. on his 80th birthday he raised $120,000 which he gave to two towns devastated by the explosion. well done, willie nelson. >> that was a nice willie. >> he's always been there. he's been to the farm aid concerts, many of which i went to, some of which i can remember. >> what does he say? okay, never mind. whoa. let's get out while we can. that's it for us on the five. again, our thoughts and prayers are with >>> welcome to "red eye." i'm greg gutfeld. she is so hot they use her to light the olympic torch. and he is so funny that everyone forgets to laugh. comedian joe derosa. that was kind of mean. and in canada she a door stop. my repulsive sidekick, bill schulz. and his mustache can brerch 400 pounds while cooking a three-egg spanish omelette. john bolton, former ambassador to the u.n. and he is also the president of "red eye." before we proceed

therefore, you won't see osama bin laden's pictures. >> osama bin laden. >> thank you.n't forget the massive explosion that occurred april 17n in west texas. 14 people killed, 200 injured. willie nelson hasn't forgotten. on his 80th birthday he raised $120,000 which he gave to two towns devastated by the explosion. well done, willie nelson. >> that was a nice willie. >> he's always been there. he's been to the farm aid concerts, many of which i went to, some of which i can remember. >> what does he say? okay, never mind. whoa. let's get out while we can. that's it for us on the five. again, our thoughts and prayers are with the people of only. we'll see you tomorrow. special report is next. >>> holding out hope for survivors in a town turned to sticks and bricksth is special report. >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. teams continue at this hour to search for the rubble in moore, oklahoma after yesterday's yests disaster. the national weather serves is significant it's an ef-5, the strongest of ratings. although the extent of the damage is unknown, it's fair to say i

to capture or kill osama bin laden and destroy the taliban regime that supports al qaeda. by november, the enemy is on the run, forced to flee into the mountains and across the border to pakistan. but while bin laden remains at large, washington's attention turns to iraq. to saddam. >> i think the united states, since "desert storm" has always had a, a, a various planning with respect to iraq. >> "operation desert storm." also known as the first gulf war. in 1991, following iraq's invasion of kuwait, a u.s.-led coalition of 34 countries drives saddam's forces out of kuwait and decimates the iraqi army in six weeks. but despite that overwhelming victory, president george h.w. bush faces criticism at home for not going all the way to baghdad to rid the world of saddam hussein. >> i made very, very clear from day one, that it was not an objective of the coalition to get saddam hussein out of there, by force. >> dick cheney, defense secretary at the time, supports the first president bush's restraint. >> i think we got it right. conversations i had with leaders in the region af

we killed osama bin laden. we kept the country safe.there is that kind of terror attack, it looks like the united states is weak. it gives the republicans in. obama has the polls and it looks like he's going to win. i think it's the politically safer course of action. it doesn't make it seem like the war in libya was a mistake that it unleashed all these things, and it doesn't put pressure on the obama administration to act. they would vastly refer-- >> my reaction would be if we were attacked in the middle of an occupation, that's not necessarily surprising. >> cenk: i think glenn's right. that's the safe route and obama always takes the safer route. oh, it wasn't terrorism. they think get it out first. no one will hear the retraction, and that's the usual play. the republicans are wait, no, no no, we're going to make a stink on this. what should happen? so now mike huckabee is on the show talking about impeachment. of course, of course. what is the reality? we apparently tend to agree that they went in the wrong direction in that firs

for example in pakistan which has a lot of nuclear weapons when obama did a targeted killing of osama bin laden when he certainly could have captured him when they the u.s. military soldiers got to the compound obama's assignment in lines come down base saw that they could have actually nobody was armed and so they could have captured him but yet they took him out and they did this without telling the pakistani government and obama said in his speech last week that in fact this caused a lot of tension between the united states and pakistan and and that's the kind of thing that happens when these drone strikes kill people especially in large numbers of civilians also the drone strikes don't just kill the target or whoever happens to be in the sights but then when people come to rescue the wounded then these drone strikes kill them as well and when they have funerals to bury the people who have been killed in the drone strikes then more drones come and kill the people at the funerals so this creates tremendous animosity against the united states and when high level generals were telling obama tha

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i'm fareed zakaria . >> the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden. >> ago that navy s.e.a.l.s in pakistan spoke the words geronimo and that meant osama bin laden was finally dead. today the fight continues. as we saw on boyleston street in boston. stepping back from the crisis, we also need to ask larger questions about the state of our security. what is the threat out there and are we prepared for it? >> he intended to use the

i think that the three important points are one contrary to claims torture did not lead to osama bin ladento torture really didn't provide us much useful intelligence generally and three the last one that cia was misrepresenting what was going on to congress choose the department of justice and even to the white house so you know a lot of the claims a lot of the claims that say d.o.j. approval were based on were in fact false and i think that's a really important point not just for the torture program but for cia oversight generally now marci in my beginning i have talked about the fact that it is taking forever to release this report what is taking it so long well if it was approved in december and originally as the cia was supposed to kind of come back to the senate intelligence committee on february fifteenth to. complain or give any complete concerns i had about declassifying it at precisely that time where john brennan was being confirmed to be director of cia and he didn't read it before the confirmation hearings he just read the introductory volume. he afterwards has been saying wel

and it was round about the first anniversary of the killing of osama bin laden. >> schieffer: so this was good news. >> this was very good news, but strangely, at the same time, the administration, through the press secretary and the department of homeland security, were telling the american public that there was no credible evidence of a terrorist plot related to the anniversary of the killing of osama bin laden. so that was misleading to the american public. we felt the american public needed to know this story. >> schieffer: now, when you got the story, at first the people who gave it to you asked to you hold it for a certain time. >> yes. so what happened was we got this story. we went to the government-- the white house, intelligence agencies -- they said there's a national security risk if you run this story, if guwith this story at this time. we respected that. we acted responsibly, we held the story. >> schieffer: then? >> then five days-- we held it for five days. on the fifth day, we heard from high officials in two part of the government that the national security issues ha

two years after osama bin laden has been killed, are we safer as a country or not?that this country obviously has a lot of basic freedoms that make it impossible to police every potential threat. we still have red blooded americans going into schools and maskering 26 people including children. we still have situations where domestic terrorist operatives that have nothing to do with islam have hit this country. oklahoma city had nothing to do with islamism. there are bad people who want to do awful thipgs. you can't stop them all. what we can do is try to do the best we can in terms of sensible security policy. i don't think anybody in the country wants to go back to the bush era and what we were doing with domestic wiretapping, what we were doing with demonizing and targeting entire groups of people based on religion. again, people who are not muslim also commit horrible random acts. not all with bombs. some with guns. >> rich lowry, if the events on 9/11 and benghazi and that attack were a striking blow and reminder, boston was an exclamation point about the ongoin