he's the one who tried to get osama bin laden. but on 9/11 john o'neil was at the world trade center and he was killed by al qaeda and osama bin laden. >> in the series they focus on your personal life. you met this wonderful woman, you had to keep explaining that you had to go off on secret missions you couldn't tell her about. you are the terrorist hunter and yet your marriage has lasted. you have kids. your unit survived. how? >> i'm lucky. she endured a lot and when i said one day i think we had an event at the "washington post" and somebody asked me about my date and that i left her in the restaurant and they said did she take you back? >> as portrayed in the series. >> i said, yeah, she's my wife now. >> there's a happy ending, ali soufan, thank you very much indeed. >> thank you, christiane. a really important insight. and now we're switching gears to the demise of the newspaper, the rise of politically partisan so-called journalism, the dominance of social media companies. my next guest wanted to explain them all and so he

who cares if saddam hussein is friends with osama bin laden osama bin laden is already dead. ission accomplished. they needed the enemy. they deliberately let him g go. they waste war against the taliban. if you said they let osama bin laden live there so they have to pay for the, fine but we didn't have to create a new government in power there. even if you think for whatever reason you can come up with we did not need to go and make enemies out of all of their enemies. what the american military didn't donald rumsfeld did was put the u.s. army at the beck and call of god knows who. from this side of the hill or that side of the mountain, all they have to do shout terrorists and the americans pick fights with people that did not need to be picked. is a famous documentary about -- valley. the entire thing began when someone convinced the army to attack his business competition and kill the paycheck of the valley and take out some of the timber guys. it was simply politics. it was a war that raged on for years. the worst case, no good mental among the living is -- who hopefully

saying osama bin laden, the fulfillment of his fantasy? if you are going to osama bin laden, you lost me. >> the nazis. hysteria. >> laura: nazis got old so now it's osama bin laden. the left is long on criticism. up next a solution that would test the commitment that some of the left have to their own values. >> laura: all right, one of the "angle"'s favorite political analysts has some suggestions to help solve the current immigration crisis. david hansen. the scholar joins us now. here to debate him an immigration attorney and author of the book save haven in america. michael wilds. great to you have both. give me your suggestion. lay it on me. about the detenton centers and now the suggestion of military campus. we have over 500 colleges and universitiest of their dorms are only half utilized. many are in the sanctuary cities. we could contract the federal government to use idle dorms and draw on the resources of the campus for legal help and medical centers. kids could intern rather than going to wall street or washington. >> laura: a

saying osama bin laden, the full fillment of his fantasy? you are going to osama bin laden, you lost me. >> the nazis. hysteria. >> laura: nazis got old so now it's osama bin laden. the left is long on criticism. up next a solution that would test the commitment that some of the left have to their own values. ying to manage my a1c, then i learn type 2 diabetes puts me at greater risk for heart attack or stroke. can one medicine help treat both ood sugar and cardiovascular risk? i asked my doctor. she told me about non-insulin victoza®. victoza® is not only proven to lower a1c and blood sugar, but for people with type 2 diabetes treating their cardiovascular disease, victoza® is also approved to lower the risk of major cv events such as heart attack, stroke, or death. while not for weight loss, victoza® may help you lose some weight. (announcer) victoza® is not for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. do not take victoza® if you have a personal or family history of medullary thyroid cancer, multiple endocrine neoplasia syndro

strikes and avoiding to take a decision on bin laden. osama bin laden was also interested in continued pipeline negotiations. a strategy memo from bin laden's close aide mohammed ought to have was found to join the investigation of the nine hundred ninety eight east africa embassy attacks this memo written by mohammed atta's it states clearly that as far as the taliban were mentioning relationship in some way was with american businesses over this project or us diplomats. and their security and tightest security guarantee. the little. the terror attacks against the east african embassies tasted the relationship between the taliban and the al qaida leader. his presence in afghanistan. became a big part of the trip. and they did in there in the early should between a kind of sign and then match them committed to. a law. if she does that would be part of those see was a victim of tragic surgery so you know sort of blood because you know she sued the low base live near zero but the kind you oh and your way those shooter was on thursday. the gee it

strikes and avoiding to take a decision on bin laden. osama bin laden was also interested in continued pipeline negotiations. a strategy memo from bin laden's close aide to mohammed ought to have was found to join the investigation of the nine hundred ninety eight east africa embassy attacks this memo written by mohammed that says it states clearly that as far as the taliban were mentioning relationship in some way was with american businesses over his project or u.s. diplomats. and their security a tighter security guarantee. the little. the terror attacks against the east african embassies tested the relationship between the taliban and the al qaeda leader. his presence in afghanistan. became a big part of the trip. and they did in there in the early shift between a kind of sign and a match that if you can. there are. a lot of. as you get up to the pedestal part of those see was a victim of static surgery so you know it was sort of blood because you know it suited the low baseline near zero by the time you oh and you weigh those shooter was

a man believed to be a former bodyguard for osama bin laden is to be deported from germany after living in the country for more than twenty years sami a forty two year old tunisian national reportedly joined al qaeda in the year two thousand he had entered germany on a student visa in one thousand nine hundred seven and requested asylum in two thousand and six a court rejected his application describing the man as a danger to public security however he was not deported and he received regular welfare payments until april of this year when news of his case gained widespread public city foreign policy analyst george samueli believes the case highlights a major security problem for europe. i would be even more frustration with. the merkel government that so many people are able to come here and then centrally the german government is not able to get them out we already know that a number of the people who. migrated into europe since two thousand and fifteen you know it is almost certainly because i am certain that there are many other terrorists living peacefully in europe probably like th

and after 9/11, osama bin laden and his men fled, guess where, to pakistan where he was eventually killed 10 years later by the americans. pakistan has moved quickly to revive the taliban after its defeat and has facilitated arms purchases for al qaeda. mr. speaker, pakistan's behavior has never changed. just a few weeks ago, the new commander of the coalition forces in afghanistan told congress, my committee, that pakistan is the big youest obstacle to stabilize biggest obstacle to stabilizing afghanistan. and the u.n. ambassador to afghanistan told the u.n. that he problem in afghanistan is pakistan. we have fooled ourselves into thinking pakistan is a partner. we poured billions of dollars into pakistan hoping and praying they will change, but they have not. we are continuing to pay them for bad behavior. that's why i've introduced amendment number 20 to the underlying bill to cut $200 million of coalition support that we give pakistan. $200 million is a good first step. we should not pay pakistan to betray us. they will do it for free. and i reserve. the chair: the gentleman reserves

and he says, al qaeda is grooming hamza bin laden, osama bin laden's son, to be its new leader. group is counting on a major attack on a western target to propel hamza bin laden onto the world stage. >> and brian, i understand there was one particular plot on the u.s. homeland, which this former al qaeda operative helped to stop? >> that's right. according to dean, al qaeda was developing a plan in 2003, the new york subway system using chemical weapons. he said he was part of al qaeda's chemical and biological weapons program at that time and he reported the plot to western intelligence. the plot was foiled, but it was a close call. >> amazing information, indeed. thank you very much for that report. here's an important programming note to all of our viewers, please be sure to tune in later tonight, cuomo primetime. it airs at 9:00 p.m. eastern, right here on cnn. among chris's guests, the white house counsellor, kellyanne conway. thank you very much for watching. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. ♪ >>> "outfront" next, breaking news, homeland security secretary under fi

[inaudible] the son of osama bin laden is propaganda against this in order to counter and encounter thehey've allowed a ten year contract. [inaudible] that framework is important. a lot of time what's missing in conversation about fundamentalism is that saudi's ntn be the biggest det from jihad is on. their narrative is incredibly powerful. you might like to think of it as maybe they can influence radicalization but they should play a role in this engagement. i'm not so sure removing that would do anything. it's like a previous movement where they try to modernize society and a lot of american troops occupied themselves on the arabian peninsula and this really induced transition into accepting the idea that the foreign drop was most appropriate to criticizing the king and denouncing him and authorizing rebellion against him and transitioning into making his population or his audience aware that because they partnered with the americans there would be no way that we could overthrow saudi arabia unless of course the americans were reduced to not playing the role of global imperiouimperial

today was a fantastic fulfi fulfillment of osama bin laden's vision by donald trump. what osama bin laden hoped to provoke was a war between the west and 1 billion muslims. and so what donald trump and this muslim ban signal to the world is that muslims are not welcome here, that this is whether the conservative justices say that, in fact, this is about executive power, the president's clear intent was to impose a religious test. that is as fundamentally un-american as anything he's done over the course of this presidency. the only force in the world that has the power to defeat extremists islam radicalism is moderate islam. and moderate islam was dealt a big setback today by this shortsighted, dangerous policy that abrogates all the fine traditions of our country from freedom of religion, to welcoming the renewal of the country's life blood with immigration. >> we've talked around this table a lot about what happens when you have a president so ignorant of not just world history but american history. if you look at the last two presidents as examples, they warn of two

e terrorings made group's leader, osama bin laden, an infamous, household name, three years before the horror of september 11th, 2001. thring that period, m.i.-6 british foreign intelligence service had an agent inside al qaeda. he has now unmasked himself, and spoke with jonathan rugman of independent television news. >> reporter: he calls himself aimen dean. for eight years he worked for m.i.-6 as a double agent ,mostly inside al qaeda. and now one of the west's most important spies has broken cover to tell his story. >> if you spend eight years under cover at some point you 96ll start to feel the effects, >> reporter: in aimen dean underwent al qaeda training in afghanistan. the teenager from bahrain had already foug as a jihadi in snia.n now he swore ath of allegiance to osama bin laden, did he impress yat? you write e was tall, he was softly spoken. >> absolutely, someone who was, ncould have a luxury life saudi arabia, who could have had an easy life, and yet he gavel althat up to serve a cause bigger than him, even if that >> reporter: al qaeda's bombings of u.s. embassies in ke

osama bin laden operating out of a cave to attack the people of the united states. to me, the success of what you're trying to do is important. i am grateful my former national guard unit led by a -- serve there for a year. and developed extraordinary appreciation of the people in the talents of the people of afghanistan. am grateful my youngest son the second lieutenant hunter wilson served as an engineer. i have seen it from the ground up to see the potential that we had. it is so important. it does relate to the global war on terror's. the focus on the isis campaign has been in syria and iraq but isis has a foothold in afghanistan continues to launch attacks. to what extent is the islamic state province a threat to stability and security of afghanistan? >> estimates are broad but perhaps 2000 up to 5000 exist. they have some other terrorist groups whether it's the tele- banner others. but i think we have to be concerned we have targeted this heavily where there has been an outpost. it is a reminder to us there's something worse. then an insurgency that is nationa

now he swore an oath of allegiance to osama bin laden, did he impress you? you write that he was tall, hely was sopoken. s >> absoluteleone who was, ululd have a luxury life in saudi arabia, who have had avan easy life, and yet he all that up to serve a cause bigger than him, even if that >> reporter: al qaeda's bombings of u.s. embassies in kenya and tanzania left hundreds dead and aimen dean outraged by the rnage. then three years later september the 11th. almost 3,000 people killed and dean had known one of theck his. by now though he'd moved to london, using the need for medical treatment as cover to become a british spy. your job was to carry radios and phones into afghanistan that enclosed m.i.-6 bugging devices, was that it? >> well more than that, my job was to report on locations of camps, the new training methods, the individuals coming in and out and keeping up with al qaeda's weapons of mass destruction program at the time. >> reporter: but if you were doing all that, why did an attack like sept 11th happen? >> if you wanted to stop 9/11 you have

bin laden, and i remember telling president george w. bush when he took office, i said, i know you think saddam hussein's your biggest problem. that's not right. osama bin laden is. >> reporter: also discussing why we should read different news sources and listen to the other side. >> and it may be much more effective in defending my policies, i think, and on rare occasions deciding that, you know, maybe i wasn't all that right. and so i think we should all do that. i think it would be good for us. >> reporter: and the one thing people can do to make a change, go to the polls. >> as i always say. show up. show up. >> reporter: in san jose, ian cull, nbc bay area news. >>> a formerig customs enforcement spokesman in san francisco is now on the record saying h tweet it in february fro mayor libby schaaf. jeff sessions claimed that tweet allowed 800 wanted criminals to -- in fact, the raid exceeded i.c.e. expectations with more than 200 arrests. >> what they publicly said was that she let people go. >> and that wasn't true? >> it wasn't true. i could not fathom staying at an organization that was okay with lying to the american public. i hate that. >>

i became fascinated with osama bin laden when i did my exit interview with george w. bush when he came in. you always hand the little baton off. and i said i know that you believe saddam hussein is the biggest security threat facing this country, but i promise you osama bin laden is. and this whole idea of non-state actors who can work with governments that don't like us or work on their own, all this technology stuff, i said this guy is so smart. and he comes from the richest family. instead he is living in a cave and has to have dialysis. he believes in what he's doing. better to respect your adversaries if you want to defeat him. and it's something we would all do well to keep in mind in any of life's great contests. because if the resources are fairly evenly distributed, then it becomes a head game. and so, yeah, we did. we made him a person. but i also think for people who made her a person in this book. but i think in general, you should do that with your adversaries. > > >>>. >> i can you about the hero. they help create jonathan lincoln duncan. is that you? >>

, robert o'neill recollection of his military career and the mission that led to the death of osama bin laden. in the operator. some of these authors have appeared in booktv. you can wash them on our website. booktv.org p request we recently visited capitol hill to see what people are reading this summer. >> quite a bit.i just got done with the book called friends divided. looking at the relationship between jefferson adams and before that an excellent book out there by, on lincoln and churchill wartime experiences. and another excellent book i recently read on ulysses s grant. next will be unlikely general about anthony wayne. 1794, it takes place in my district where it occurred. the battle of fallen timbers. when i get done with that book it will be the book on lindbergh. a good list to get done. >> booktv wants to know what you are reading. sinister summer reading list via twitter twitter.com/booktv, or facebook.com/booktv. booktv on c-span2. television for serious readers. >> you're watching booktv on c-span2. television for serious readers. here is our prime time lineup tonight. at 6:45

he was there for pretty much every major foreign policy decision that barack obama took from osama bin laden to the cuban negotiations to the drawdown in afghanistan and so on so forth so he gives an inside look when it comes to angela merkel you know he reveals that angela merkel said that pretty much the trump victory was actually one of the main reasons why she decided to run for another term because she saw the turmoil of those going to happen and then of course rock obama says she is all by herself she is all alone i mean that that's a direct quote from the book so yeah that's pretty interesting pretty revealing yeah we're going to get to that is that i want to ask you a quote about his presidency he is quoted as pondering that he may have been elected ten to twenty years too early and you were with that campaign was a premature well i think barack obama you know and then of course the former president says he might have been premature we should let it stand of that but you know if i remember back to two thousand and seven two thousand and eight that first historic campaign of course br

i became fascinated with osama bin laden in the early 90s when i did my exit interview with president george w. bush when he was coming in. you know you always do that little -- and i said, i know that you believe saddam hussein is the biggest security threat but i promise you osama bin laden is. and i said, the whole idea of nonstate actors who can work with governments that don't like us or work on their own, all this technology stuff, i said this guy is so smart. andy comes from the richest family in saudi arabia. he is a critical critical life instead he lives in a cave somewhere needs dialysis. better to respect your adversaries. it was something we would all do well to keep in mind in any of wife's great contests. because if the resources are fairly evenly distributed, then it becomes a head game. and so yeah, we made him a person but i also think for people who, i mean made her a person in this book. but in general, you should do that with your adversaries. >> may ask about the hero? william jefferson rachel can help create jonathan lincoln duncan. [laughter] is that you? >> no

the next day was the operation against osama bin laden. third, iran sanctions. most comprehensive set of sanctions we have ever had in the history of the un security council. that led to a terrific deal with the iranians. our president toured up last week, don't do that without russian cooperation. the last category, it's important for students to remember the non- events in history they get written out easily. but for me, the scariest day by far working at the security council was in the spring of 2010, hundred people die, 300,000 ethnic specs when -- you may not think that's a big deal, at the end the airbase we change the name to make it work, dating for the russians back in 2009, they called it a transit center. over 95% of our troops went through manas on the way to afghanistan. this was scary. this time it did not end in acrimony. if obama got on the phone and said both of our countries do not have an interest in this thing going up, let's work together to resolve it. you never read about this horrible genocidal war because we help to defuse it. i'll go qu

wahhabi is an is more counterproductive, says there is a conference, the son of osama bin laden utilizing mohammed's influence to counter the idea of a release from al qaeda and the arabian peninsula as well, how this is clearly not winning. the same work is important, and where it occurs is the biggest deterrent, you might think about maybe they reduce radicalization but they should play a role in this engagement so i'm not sure that will induce anything, a movement where previous kings tried to modernize and turn american troops on the arabian peninsula and this induced them into accepting the idea that it was appropriate through criticizing and denouncing rebellion against him and making the audience aware there would be no way to overthrow saudi arabia unless you were adduced to not playing the role of global, quote, heroes. >> clearly from the new york perspective what hobby is him, the most often intermingled, those surviving the ideology in earliest stages to understand the differences where they existed. that i think it is out of the tube. there is enough material online that can'

osama bin laden was alive skpant large. these words did not exist.at's what it looks like. >> ipad. president donald trump. donald trump was on the screen but on "the apprentice." we sat down with the world's thinkers and doers discovering the world's global events. take ea look. this is a special gps coming to you from tehran, a place few reporters are given access to. coming to you live from london. >> high atop mount jordan. >> so let's get started on what's going to be a hell of a ride. the big, sad story, of course, is the gruesome terrorist attacks in mumbai. do you believe that islamic extremism is the big threat of the 21st century? >> i don't believe it's the only threat we face. >> islam in and of itself does not subjugate women and hold them back. but they do act in a way that does hold them back. >> people in tehran take to their rooftops, communicating house to house, even as they watch the violence that continues on the streets below. >> we have to be able to say to the iranians, here's what's in it for you if you get back into the good

the president will be calling, and the next day was the operation against osama bin laden.third, iran sanctions. i'll go faster here. most comprehensive set of sanctions we have ever had in the history of the u.n. security council, led to what i think was terrific deal with the iranians that unfortunately our president juster to up last week. don't do that without russian cooperation. and then this last category, it's important for students here to remember the nonevents in history. they get written out easily. but for me, the scariest day by far working at the security council was in the spring of 2010, the president was overthrown in. felt like we were on the verge of an ethnic civil war in kyrgyzstan. and you may not think that's a big deal, but i just mentioned the manas air base, we changed the name to make it more accommodating nor russians back in 2009, called it's transit center, i with a oft airplanes there -- with a lot of airplanes there. over 95% of our troops went through manas. it was scary and felt live a revolution but didn't end inning a decree moan -- acri

tyson, charlie sheen, the hot mugshot convict, the noid, hannibal lecter, fred flintstone, and osama bin laden. take that, obama. now you murdered an innocent man." ( laughter ) and-- thank you, jon. thank you. always there. >> jon: always there. >> stephen: according to one white house official, trump is obsessed with pardons, describing them as the president's new "favorite thing" to talk about, replacing his former favorite topic: "don't you think my daughter is hot? the ( laughter ) ooh, pardon me." insiders say he has become laugh-- ( cheers and applause ) "i-- i pardon myself." insiders say trump has become fixated on his ability to issue pardons because it's one area where he has almost unchecked power. and i'm actually okay with that. it's like letting your toddler play with an electric razor. it's going to look crazy when it's over, but he's having a good time. ( laughter ) meanwhile-- oh, there's big news for tariff fans! any riff heads out there? last week, trump imposed steel and aluminum tariffs on the e.u., canada, and mexico, also known as "the legion of people who still like us

here's how osama bin laden once put it. we love death. americans love life. that is the big difference between us. indeed it is. today we see the toll this bloody ideology is exacting on the world. it's responsible for deaths of countless iraqis and syrians, approximately 100,000 afghan, 9/11 close to 3,000 innocent people from 90 countries around the world. its followers enslaved women and girls from their families. beheaded sons on television. they burn people alive. thrown them from tops of buildings and drowned them. our enemies are not shy about the ideas that inspire them to this brutality. our enemies reject religious liberty. indeed a liberty as they seek to rule by constant bloodshed. they reject equality and seek to empower themselves at the expense of those that they regard as their inferiors. they reject pluralism because they regard any other religion, any other tradition within islam itself as a crime that carries a death sentence. so as we confront terrorists on the battlefield and in courts of law and other theaters we also must confront the t

question was basically something to the effect of are you really compar ing this president to osama bin ladennly answer is "no." pete: yes. ed: the president is not osama bin laden. there's no direct comparison. there's no way. abby: the problem is he was behind putting those ads. he knows exactly what it said the greatest threat to our democracy and then now president trump and you pushed him back and said you actually have to stand by that ad, because you put it out there so defend yourself. pete: he was a smart guy it was scripted they wrote it. he went on and the first answer he went on to say well it's because i swore an oath against foreign, enemies and domestic. ed: well the president is an enemy? pete: this is part of the interview. listen. >> i served combat towards in iraq and afghanistan and i did it for a simple reason and swore an oath to upheld and defend the constitution of the use guest enemies foreign and domestic. and right now -- pete: okay so i swore the same oath. are you saying that president trump is a domestic enemy? >> i'm saying for an oath that we took to defend the

osama bin laden was alive and at large.what it looked like. >> my fellow americans -- >> president trump. donald trump was actually on screen but in the apprentice. >> you're fired. >> in the more than 500 episodes of this show he sat down with the world thinkers, doers, covered a number of extraordinary global events. take a look. >> this is a special edition of gps coming to you today from tehran, a place few journalists are given access to. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world coming from davos, switzerland, st. petersburg, russia, high atop aman, jordan. tahrir square. >> let's get started on what's going to be a hell of a ride. the big, bad story of course is the gruesome terrorist attacks in mumbai. >> do you believe that islamic extremism is the transcendent challenge of the 21st century? >> i don't think it's the only threat that we face. >> there is a very famous photograph of you at tianamen square in 1989. what lesson did you take from your experiences in dealing with that problem. >> t

joe biden was in the room when the navy seal raid was being discussed that took out osama bin laden. i talked to joe biden about it. and he had said he was against the raid because they were not clear enough on whether it was definitely bin laden. and that a lot of people in the room were against it. in fact he said many people have said hillary clinton was also not as supportive of the raid as she later said she was. but joe biden fell on his sword. he says. he wanted to make it clear that this was a decision that president obama took and made. he realized it could break bad for him, because it came out in the report that he didn't support the raid. which was of course a big success. part of being vice president is taking those kinds of risks and just saying, you know, this is where i stood on this issue. i was wrong. joe biden told me later on he escorted the president from the oval office after they had the situation room meeting to discuss the raid, and he took obama aside and said, i think you should follow your gut. and if your gut tells you to go in, go in. so he his real messa

i have to reckon with the fact the first several years to be high in the capable or even osama bin ladenut to be unable to shape those events and an obvious example is livia where obviously after the fall of qaddafi in libya. but we spent a lot of time designing the search with the counterinsurgency theory with the military to improve the lives of people and you could not help with to reckon with the fact with all of the military might to put together broken places. and i describe on syria example of afghanistan and iraq. and then to blowup the runways to say what happens the next day that this inevitably to change things but the track record of the capacity to resolve the civil war was limited. and part of the circumstance. but i had to redirect my idealism. so feeling somewhat frustrated my -- frustration is when i turned to cuba or vietnam. and we need to pay attention. we have so much coming out every day that you barack obama need to make cuba a priority. so let me do this. and then to broaden somewhat. >> so you didn't want to that was the george w. bush experiment. but to undergir

you're treating them as if they're osama bin laden. this is an intersectional moment.process, take your land and water and build an oil pipeline through it, take away your health care, if you're a women, make your decisions for you. you see an intersectionalty going on. people are understanding, if it is not me now, it could be me. i need to speak up for so many others who are being hurt. so many vulnerable and marginalized communities. >> thank you, faiz. >> one more thing. people will vote in november like their rights depend on it. i guarantee you that. >> faiz, calling this an intersectional moment. we heard from kamala harris a few moments ago, calling it an inflection point. we'll monitor the protests and rallies taking place across the count country. >>> the man who claims he prank called president trump, i sat down with him, and he told he how he says he pulled it off. what might seem like a small cough to you... can be a big bad problem that you could spread to family members, including your grandchildren babies too young to be vaccinated against whooping coug

here's how osama bin laden once put it. we love death, americans love life. that's the big difference between a -- us. indeed, it is. today, we told that this blood etiology is putting upon the world. it is responsible for the deaths of iraqis, syrians, afghans, and i/11, close to 3000 citizens from across the country's around the world. its thoughts have enslaved women and girls around the country's, they have he hated some on television, bring people alive, thrown from the top the buildings, and drowned them. our enemies are not shy about the ideas that inspire them to this brutality. our enemies reject this liberty. as they seek to rule against constant bloodshed. a rejected quality, and seek to empower themselves at the expense of those they regard as their inferiors. and, they reject pluralism, because they regard any other religious. indeed, any other which is a trait against itself, which carries a crime of death sentence. and so, as we confront terrorists on the battlefield, in courts of law and in other theaters, we also must confront the twisted ide

then, a review of the files of osama bin laden. , a discussion on the state of the u.s. construction industry. hundreds of rallies were held around the country today under the banner families belong together to protest the trump administration's immigration policies. rallies was in lafayette square across the street from the white house, while at the president is in new jersey for the weekend. this portion is one hour and 15 minutes.

question it to biden was in thee room when the navy seal raid was being discussed and that took out osama bin laden. i talked to joe biden about it and he said he was against the raid because they were clear enough on it if it was bin laden and if a lot of people in the room were against it and he said that many people have said hillary clinton was also not as supportive of the raid as she later said she was. joe biden fell on his sword. he wanted to make it clear that this was president obama took realized it he could break bad for him because it came out in the past that he did not support the raid which was of course, a big success. the part of being a vice president is taking those risks and saying this is where i stood on this issue and i was wrong and joe biden to meet later on he escorted the president of the oval office after they had the situation meeting and he took him aside and said i feel like you should follow your gut and forgot has you to go in, go in. the real message to obama because mr. spock in the white house because biden said he had so much gray matter he was so meeting the p

. >> osama bin laden hope to provoke was a war of civilization, and war between the west and 1 billionso what donald trump and this muslim ban signal to the world is that muslims are not welcome here, that this is, whether the conservative justices say that it's about executive power, the president's clear intent was to impose a religious test and that is is fundamentally on un-american as anything that he is done over the course of this presidency. >> bret: what about the majority opinion that was looking at the words on the paper there? >> i would like to just react to that in tandem with reacting to byron. byron is absolutely right. if you just took the 3.0 version of this, not the first two, which were quite different, the biggest problem was the problem the president created for himself through all this extravagant hostile rhetoric towards muslims. george w. bush of course, who was president right after 9/11 went out of his way to signal that the united states did not have a quarrel with all muslims, just the islamist terrorists and so i think that commentator you just put up ther

the caption, mocked comments that mccain had made about taking down osama bin laden. megan, calling her beyond disgusting and disgraceful. she has shade she has the highest respect for senator mccain that, she reached out to megan mccain. was that what forced her for breaking her silence? >> it seems like every day there's a new revelation of stuff on her old block, there was a 9/11 truther that some found disturbing. there could be even more posts that maybe are going to be published by various web sites in the future. this started more than six months ago. there had been anti-gay posts on her blog she discovered, she apologiz apologized. in april more posts came out and she said she was hand. she's a time slot rival of mine, i hate to have to come out and say anything. now in these new blog posts this week, she's not saying she was hand at all. so i guess that idea's gone out the window. >> wondering what that means for the hacking claim. and, jeremy, do you, why not just if you're joy, why not just come clean, full throat, mea culpa from the beginning, this is what

conducted a fake vaccination campaign in the area where it suspected osama bin laden was hiding, tryingo collect d.n.a. matches from family members. that severely damaged public trust. despite all the challenges, pakist has seen an impressive drop in new cases, from more than 300 cases in 2014 to just five in 2017. >> we hope we are really at an advaed stage of the polio en game. on reporter: dr. zulfiqar bhutta is a leading exper the country's polio campaign. he says there's been a concerted effort to plug the gaps, led by rotary international and a number of partners, including pakistan's religious leaders and army. >> pakistan, thrgh a very particularly in the insecure areas of the country, has made tremendous inroads. >> reporter: violence an extremism have made many parts of pakistan inaccessible to the polio campaign, so vaccinators have fanned out to places where people are coming and going to these regions. looking for small children in places like karachi's main railway statn. >> the real hero is the polio health workerswho are in the frontlin going and vaccinating children. >>

>> logan: these people assisted osama bin laden and al qaeda, and we're now saying to the american peoplee can't defeat them, so we're going to negotiate and put them in the government." >> nicholson: no, we're killing them in large numbers. they can either lay down their weapons and rejoin society and be a part of the future of afghanistan, have a better life for their children and themselves, or they can die. >> logan: you know, many americans look at this and they say, "you know, we've been there 16 years. it's enough now. we should just come home." >> nicholson: our country hasn't been attacked in those 16 years. they haven't been attacked from afghanistan. >> logan: a lot of people at home just don't buy that terrorists are coming from afghanistan to attack them at home. they're worrying about the guy going to rent a truck from home depot and drive into a crowd of civilians. >> nicholson: well, this raises the point-- we need to defeat the ideology. if we were to lose here, or if we were to leave here, the cost would be unacceptable. why? it would embolden jihadists globally, those l

whether to go after a target in pakistan based upon intelligence that it could very well be where osama bin laden was living or hiding. it was by no means a 100 to nothing decision. it certainly was not a decision that could be made by the gut of the president. at the end of the day after everything was presented and the intelligence was red teamed by two different intel groups that were not in the hunt for bin laden but had other expertise and it came back that it was 40 or 60% reliable and you had to lay that out with robust discussion or disagreements and we had that and you turn to the president and give the opinion. then the president is forced to make the decision. there is no way to imagine important life or death decisions being made without this thoughtfulness. the state department has a deep reservoir of people with experience who will say, if you say that, that sounds like what was said to his father and he is going to immediately have a negative reaction. who would know that other than people that have been immersed in the language and culture of another country. i am hoping that peop

about i joy reid baghdad john strikes again, a reference to mccain's statement he would follow osama bin ladenthe gates of hell. to her statement, to be clear, i have the highest respect for senator mccain and wish him and his family the best. the federalist in a post which she called wolf blitzer an aipac hack, saying he was promoting the interests of israel. the trade on 9/11 conspiracy theories wrote, there is no question in my mind al qaeda perpetrated the 9/11 attacks, or about israel's right to its sovereignty. from msnbc now, where she hosts the am joy program, some of the things written by joy on our old blog are hateful and hurtful. joy apologized publicly and privately and said she's grown and evolved in the many years since, and we know this to be true. joy reid had a long time to think about this apology. as you might remember, shannon, this started seven months ago when she said hackers were responsible for old blog posts that were blatantly anti-expressions of disgust toward men kissing. >> shannon: what is the media reaction to this? >> not perhaps what you would think it could

whether to go after a target in pakistan based on intelligence that it could very well be where osama bin laden was living or hiding. was by no means a 100 - 0 decision. it certainly wasn't a decision that can be made by the gut of the president. at the end of the day, after everything was presented, and intelligence was read red teamey two different intel groups that were not in the hunt for bin laden but had other expertise and it came back that maybe it was 40 - 60% reliable, you had to lay all that out. you had to have robust discussion, even disagreements, which we did, among that very small group among the table and then you turn to the president and you give your opinion based on the facts and evidence. then of course the president has to make a decision. there is no way i can imagine important life or death decisions being made without that kind of thoughtfulness. the state department has a deep reservoir of people with experience who will say if you say that, that sounds like what was said to his father, and he's going to immediately have a negative reaction. who would know that other

that was the mistake we made after osama bin laden. when the united states and its allies pulled out of iraq, and were less concerned in the middle east, also at the same time, they failed to effectively implement the initiatives to advance them. the revolution was a template and ideology. it was the methodology. it might have evolved from a qualitative and quantitative perspective. it's not different. that's why we need to understand it. and contractor, safe to help us focus on attacking the ideas. by attacking the ideas a better understanding the networks, we can break at the networks. that we individuals who were associated with revolution, will not resurrect themselves. there are a lot of good chances of that. thank you very much. i look forward to the discussion.>> obviously this is a big deal. it takes a lot ofcourage. it takes a lot of patience and perseverance to untangle all of rands. congratulations on doing that. for me, most striking part the paper was a tactical level. the first, look how quickly the twitter verse has mush

us has always denied that and the fact that the us can turn round and say we just killed your osama bin laden is really a strong pitch to pakistan that now if we three states cooperate properly we will be able to bring stability to both of these countries essentially that's the pitch that they're going to make because they there's you know there really is a a long agenda of cooperation that afghanistan and the u.s. want from pakistan so that pakistan can help basically winding up to the afghan taliban problem one which is not going to be sold by drones there are too many of them the afghan taliban are not all going to be killed killed by drones it will quote political action as well the u.s. wants to get pakistan on board taking out pakistan's or salma bin laden really is quite quite a strong incentive for market on now to cooperate michael is always very good to incite on this thank you so very much for joining us here on the news great michael semple live there from belfast now as jennifer glass mentioned in a report just a short while ago for the first time ever the taliban has announced a