i mean, osama bin laudin was in a civilization in which the west was at war with muslims. it would be a war that muslims would inevitably win, and certainly that is the isis narrative. so, yes, if this attack appears to be what it looks like which is a terrorist attack directed at muslims, you know, it certainly suits the militants on both sides of this, that tensions are kind of rising and -- but, you know, of course that narrative isn't going to produce the results that militants on both sides really want. i mean, there is no cosmic war between islam and the west. the kinds of attacks that we've seen in london and elsewhere haven't produced some kind of civilization or war between islam and the west, which is what isis wants. and the british have a long history with terrorism and they tend to have a -- keep calm and carry on kind of philosophy. but i would add a caveat to that, which is you know, things can change if there appears to be a campaign of attac on both sides. certainly that produces more uncertainty in the british population. and when the british population w