we found a relative of oscar lópez rivera. his name is julián lópez, and he is also here with us. begin by telling the audience, who is oscar lópez rivera? >> oscar lópez rivera is a puerto rican. he's a veteran. he was a decorated veteran in vietnam, he was a community organizer in chicago, and in 1981, he was arrested with a group of other puerto ricans and charged with seditious conspiracy. that was in 1981. in 1999, president clinton offered to release him and 13 other of his friends that were arrested because of the disproportionate sentence that they gave him. they had given him 70 years of prison for an act that he had no -- he had committed no violence, and it was never proved. >> had he killed anyone? >> no, no, no. he was charged with sedition. now, nelson mandela was charged with seditious conspiracy. so was jesus christ. so, we have groups of governments that have always charged people with sedition when they oppose the government. so, oscar was -- oscar could be released right now. he should've been out right now. >> how long has he been in? >> he's been in since 1981