his early year in washington he was a waiter and fitness trainer and in college, he worked for oscar mayentious r and drove the famous weiner mobile. but back to his political career. 1990s he was legislative director for senator brownbag who is now governor of kansas and joining us now. nice to see you. >> boy, it must seem peculliar that 25 or so kid on your staff you may have to some day call mr. vice-president; is that odd for you? >> there is a little bit of oddness to you he was 24 when i hired him and we tried to get it for $35,000. he would not go for that today . he wanted a position of legislative director and how about senior analyst. no he was the youngest one on capitol hill. and he did a fabulous job. he was commit principle easy to work with young man who would do great things for the country. >> he's crunching numbers and he lifes in the week when he is not at home. he lives in his office. and he sits around and crunching 99s all night long on the budget. was he that sort of the walkish? >> absolutely. he is a picy wonk with a maybe i should say with a deer hunter menitality . h