with the former united air chairman oscar munoz. thank you for your time they let's start with the state of the industry for airlines. there will be gathering next week. what do you think will be the prevailing mood here? we are way below pre-pandemic capacity. oscar: thanks for having me. i think the leisure market, when you see the airports as crowded as they are, it is the business market that will be important. data has moved the market because business travel will resume. other than that, everybody has come out of the cash burning a year that we have had as an industry and are starting to make off its and united was one of the first to report that. large quarters for -- orders for aircraft moving forward. i would say from the report before this, the fourth quarter or quarter we are hoping for that recovery fairly soon. alix: it looks like you are at a . i feel like they are few and far between maybe you had to travel. where are you, what was it like? oscar: it was my second one. in san francisco we had 1000, very safe, had lots