off that my he was found to have had written a mail to the police commissioner of the country and osce that police be deployed to handle the situation the opposition has always painted that as so i'm opposed actually in the interests of white capital is that debate in south africa about who really owns the country's wealth so maybe people will brett who are critics of from a horse have branded him as one who labels on the side of white capital that he. has been in the cross of the bush was he so to say that is he really can you really identify with the struggle of black people so that is what he's critics would be shocked to say about him but in terms of scandal and and melyssa anything of the sort by and large has a pin record so we have to see actually whether this issue come resurfaces not that he's become president but he's also become president seen at a time when the a.n.c. is quite divided and we sold out over the issue of zuma as to how the parties seem to have a couple of factions that i second opposing sides how difficult will it be for saddam up was it to unite the party beh

he formerly worked for the osce — the organization for security and cooperation in europe — as spokesmane. how farfrom welcome. how far from any kind of resolution is the situation in ukraine? they are talking about a peacekeeping mission coming to ukraine, 28,000 troops, but there is no peace in ukraine. 10,000 people have died. the daily explosions going to the thousands on sundays. there is a lot of displacement of people. it is a very violent scene. by people. it is a very violent scene. by now we would have thought that some of those steps would have been applied. the main one is the withdrawal of heavy weapons. read any onc report and you will see every weapons along the contact line. how do we treat peace when the russians haven't admitted they are party to the conflict? and they keep denying they are. given what you say, the severity of the fighting still, it seems remarkable the situation seems to keep slipping from the world's consciousness. situation seems to keep slipping from the world's consciousnessm does. i think the reason is there is so much happening around the world,

one of the first things they were picking up on was my loan complaint that i sent to vietnam and the osce what the reaction was to that at the and make. >> laura: one did you learn, carter, that you were of interest to the fbi? it predated the information of the trim campaign. it predated that, according to the fbi did they ever call you out or try to talk to you. saying, what were you doing over there in russia? you are ever dell may very well connected. did you ever approach them? >> i mention this, i sent a letter to director comey on sunday, september 25th, 2016, 2 day after the defamatory articles came out against me. as i mentioned there, i basically told him everything is totally false. if you have any questions about this witch hunt, which is what i called it, please don't hesitate to contact me. i would love to set the record straight and talk to your agents. in that memo to mr. comey, i said, well, i've been in contact with members of the intelligence community before, many, many years, i would be happy to help out, again, in terms of providing you some accurate intel itself. >>

the professional and active discussions between the osc, the office of the special counsel, and the president's personal lawyers regarding how and under what terms information will be exchanged are understandably private. not' whole lot to work with there. one can understand why he can't say more than that. john dowd is president trump's perm attorney. dowd doesn't want to see trump incriminate him. ty cobb is the white house lawyer. he represents the office of the presidency. cob has been encouraging the president to cooperate. the sense is it's important for any president to cooperate with an active investigation. this one happening to be one into the president' own campaign. we're told the president's legal team expects to come to some agreement within the coming weeks. >> we've been told that for a while. i'm struck by that language, how and under what terms information will be exchanged. they don't use the word interview. jul julia, what happens if a deal cannot be reached and the special counsel subpoenas the president? >> if they can't reach a deal for him to come in and have a sit-down

measures to improve local air quality and a last january when air pollution was particularly severe osce low placed a one day ban on most diesel costs of traffic was down thirty percent even though there were many exceptions diesel trucks taxis police cars and other official vehicles were except paris has already banned diesel cars made before two thousand which produced more pollution than other models and starting in twenty twenty all these will cost will be banned from the streets of paris and that is not all the mayor of london has announced that he'll also ban diesel cars in twenty twenty meanwhile madrid athens and mexico city have pledged they'll do the same five years later in an effort to curb nitrogen oxides and other toxins in their cities and as we've heard from today cities in germany are also legally allowed to ban diesel costs a court ruling that was highly anticipated and that could turn out to be a game changer for the car industry cautious have already taken a beating daniel cope in frankfurt with the details. well how are they coping with all of this this morning there

speaking to nbc news, ty cobb said, the professional and active discussions between the osc, office of special counsel, and the president's personal lawyers regarding how and under what terms information will be exchanged are understandably private. remains to be seen, however, what authority mueller has to force trump to speak to him should he refuse to do so. i'm joined by a national security reporter for nbc news and an nbc news legal analyst. thanks so both of you guys. ken, let's start with you. on the reporting on this, i mean, at some point, this can't be news to president trump's people, that putting him in front of somebody either under oath or somebody for whom you can be charged to misrepresenting your statements has to be a problem. anybody who has known president trump for 40 years would have known that's a problem. why is this just surfacing now? >> ali, i think it's been clear for some time now that donald trump's lawyers have no intention of allowing him to sit down for an interview with robert mueller. what we're seeing over these many weeks has been sort of a game, wh